First DMT experience, Looking for Answers!

[HighHybrid]

So I used DMT for the first time about 6 months ago. I had a very strange experience so I will start from the beginning.

About 6-8 months before my experience I had an accident where I blacked out 3 times on the way home hitting my head hard enough on the floor to completely snap a tooth in half. This really shook me up and it took me a while to get back on my feet(Over 1 year). I struggled with anxiety ext. The night it happened was a usual friday I finished work and met my friend to smoke a Gram of weed nothing out of the ordinary for me. but for some reason if the weed was linked or not I blacked out 3 times on the way home.

Anyway fast forward to my experience.

It was Me and my Friend, we was in a abandoned van that we chilled in every weekend. (It was a comfortable setting for us and it was also dark, also a comfortable scenery as we are night awls). It was both our first time trying. I cnt remember the exact dose but it was enough to have a out of body experience.

So my friend takes his hit, his first words was "OMG" and then silence for 10 mins. Once he came round he explained nothing and let me take my hit (to not guide my experience with his). So i take the rip on the bong (Was mixed with weed). So i take the hit blow it out and the world drops to crystals in front of me after the initial thought of holly shit this is insane my mind instantly said "I've experienced this before" which surprisingly calmed me down. Even tho I wasnt having a bad trip it was some sort of comfort and reassurance that my mind said "youve done this before".

A few weeks pass and my anxiety had gone down abit and it was only then that i made a connection between the two days. My querie and the reason for the post is because their is a theory that when you die DMT is released in your brain. So what I am thinking is that maybe I almost died or somehow released DMT in my brain when I blacked out hitting my head 3 times on that day. I dont know if im overthinking this but It cant just be a coincident that my brains first thought after the initial impact (after taking the DMT) was "Youve done this before". Im hoping you more experienced trippers would have some information or some theorys why my brain thought that.

-Thanks

 

[FranLover]

Hi! Well I do not want to be disagreeable, but if you get around to reading more trip reports you will see most everyone describes "having been there before," "returning home," as this is one of the biggest things about dmt...and why its so easy to love it for sentimental reasons. This is so insane but I feel strangley at ease

Thnx for the report!=)

 

[HighHybrid]

I never thought of it like that, im curious of the fact I that thought "youve done this before" meaning the actual drug not the place or what was happening. "Having been their before" suggests the place or visuals, this thought as when i was still on earth and then I had an outer body experience. This could be because everyone different and so are their experiences.

I appreciate your input! Im going to do some more research on what you suggested.

 

[FranLover]

Yes, the feeling of it. You feel like the entities must know you and that what is happening to you has happened to you before, sometime, somewhere..but who knows where or when.

How did it feel to you?

 

[Dclark]

They say we release it at birth also and you have been born befor. We may leave our bodies every night when we sleep for all we know.

 

[Metobai]

I had a lucid dream before of a woman, she was in a hooded robe and standing on a glowing platform. She was telling me about her kind, and how they are defenders of heaven from a place of many hills and fountains who fought in a big war of the heavens. I felt that I knew her and had known this and her all my life, but just couldn't remember it until the dream. I have never experienced DMT other than from my own brain chemistry but because of this dream I can relate to this feeling of familiarity. It was more than just thinking I had been there before also, I knew it with every fiber of my being.

 

[Hoobaleenyo]

So I used DMT for the first time about 6 months ago. I had a very strange experience so I will start from the beginning.

About 6-8 months before my experience I had an accident where I blacked out 3 times on the way home hitting my head hard enough on the floor to completely snap a tooth in half. This really shook me up and it took me a while to get back on my feet(Over 1 year). I struggled with anxiety ext. The night it happened was a usual friday I finished work and met my friend to smoke a Gram of weed nothing out of the ordinary for me. but for some reason if the weed was linked or not I blacked out 3 times on the way home.

Anyway fast forward to my experience.

It was Me and my Friend, we was in a abandoned van that we chilled in every weekend. (It was a comfortable setting for us and it was also dark, also a comfortable scenery as we are night awls). It was both our first time trying. I cnt remember the exact dose but it was enough to have a out of body experience.

So my friend takes his hit, his first words was "OMG" and then silence for 10 mins. Once he came round he explained nothing and let me take my hit (to not guide my experience with his). So i take the rip on the bong (Was mixed with weed). So i take the hit blow it out and the world drops to crystals in front of me after the initial thought of holly shit this is insane my mind instantly said "I've experienced this before" which surprisingly calmed me down. Even tho I wasnt having a bad trip it was some sort of comfort and reassurance that my mind said "youve done this before".

A few weeks pass and my anxiety had gone down abit and it was only then that i made a connection between the two days. My querie and the reason for the post is because their is a theory that when you die DMT is released in your brain. So what I am thinking is that maybe I almost died or somehow released DMT in my brain when I blacked out hitting my head 3 times on that day. I dont know if im overthinking this but It cant just be a coincident that my brains first thought after the initial impact (after taking the DMT) was "Youve done this before". Im hoping you more experienced trippers would have some information or some theorys why my brain thought that.

-Thanks



Myself will try and explain it so you will understand. Myself could explain everything but it not be understood and taken wrongly.

It was your trueself(our spirit) At this point your ego/shadow, the self you are in the material world is gone. Man calls it ego death brother. It is not ego death but the ego is being put into a sleep spell from the special earth potions(mushrooms,dmt,5me0,peyote,magic truffles and such)The potions when taken put the shadow/ego to sleep and gives the individual the feeling of their ego dying.

You have a special purpose, we all do but most will never find it. It is your shadow that is confusing you and giving you anxiety. The person who told you it was alright and that you've been here before, that was your trueself. That is who you need to be listening to brother. Your trueself would not cause any harm to you ever.

It's like in the old cartoons when you have a good guy on one shoulder and a b ad on the other. That is totally true and the reason it was put there in the first place. It's our ego/shadow and our trueself. It will be a battle your entire life until you figure it out and catch him. Don't let him win brother, be strong and know your trueself is fighting for you!!!!!! It's all choice brother, everything in our entire life is a test, don't let your shadow/ego make you fail. That's where the power lies brother, not in muscles.

The Theory of Dmt being released when we dream is true, that is when our shadow takes control and can make our dreams super scary to our core fears when we don't have control. Notice how in our dreams when things don't go our way or super weird things happen. We think why would this happen when it is me dreaming this. That is when our shadow releases the dmt from our pineal area and makes our dreams hallucinogenic. Like when we fire a gun in our dream to save us and the bullet falls to the floor or turns to paint coming out of the gun. When we are more in control our dreams change and we can have super special dreams also, this is when our trueself is being fed more.

The death thing you feel was death itself. The same thing that happens when we pass away and that's when our body releases the dmt. After your hit, did you not hear noise and sounds like what myself can describe as the emergency broadcast system thing, TV did years ago. Then gone.... That's the body shutting down and you dying, the out of body experience is our spirit actually leaving our body. You just went through something huge and need to breathe in through your nose and out your mouth more and meditate brother. You have a journey to do and myself can help and guide you through it all the way brother. Find your trueself brother!!!! Hope this helps

 

[pelican burger]

Yes, the feeling of it. You feel like the entities must know you and that what is happening to you has happened to you before, sometime, somewhere..but who knows where or when.

How did it feel to you?

What are your thoughts on entities ?


I've had the same experience were I'm tripping on DMT and the entities appear and they get excited and happy to see you.

During my first few DMT trips though the entities were curious about me and how i ended up there.

Are entities just a projection illusion conjured up by our subconscious mind or do DMT users think they real sentient beings ?

 

[pelican burger]

Yes, the feeling of it. You feel like the entities must know you and that what is happening to you has happened to you before, sometime, somewhere..but who knows where or when.

How did it feel to you?

What are your thoughts on entities ?


I've had the same experience were I'm tripping on DMT and the entities appear and they get excited and happy to see you.

During my first few DMT trips though the entities were curious about me and how i ended up there.

Are entities just a projection illusion conjured up by our subconscious mind or do DMT users think they real sentient beings ?

 

[pelican burger]

Ooops, it sent twice

 

[n0thing]

There is no evidence that DMT is released at death, that is a myth.

 

[FranLover]

Of course the first model of thought is "are the entities just a representation of my subconcious, so to say ME?" And this would coincide with Jung and others. But then again every dmt smoker knows breakingthrough is not actually like that. You do not meet a represantation of the sub concsious, but a world, an entire universe, with it own laws and properties, out of which entities appear but are not the main factor (if it is even possible to find a common thread throughout trips.) But if anything comes close to confirming the first thought model it is that of entities because they are humanoid. We generally dont interpet the weird surfaces amd textures we see on dmt as being represabtations of ourselves.

The juror is very much still out on this one.

For me, I think there is a lot going on in life, biology being the doorway into life. And I think that this doorway can be opened when an individuals consciousness meets a property or chemical that hacks the system. Maybe this is a return to how unicelular creatures with no senses or perceptions of the outside world lived and felt.

Its always maybe, maybe, maybe with this stuff.

Have you ever seen women in uni-suits which look latexy? This is my main entity. Unforgetable.

 

[Hoobaleenyo]

There is no evidence that DMT is released at death, that is a myth.

One does not need evidence, when he has proof. We have to look within ourself to find this answer, Just like when we catch our shadow. Just like everyone looking for ego death when we travel. Ego death can be felt anytime but it is our choice to find it and if we follow our ego , it will never happen. It will be shown to you at the council when it is to late. Remember, we experience the universe, ego death, bliss, the truth and all of that correct. The judging is also done, we just don't feel that,that part is not shown to us. We are also shown the truth about the earth and the water. Well it's true and it hurts in a way you will not know until the moment you pass and the dmt releases, everyone has to go through it if they don't go through it, through themselves on earth. We can do it brother!! It can be done

 

[TGO]

There is no evidence that DMT is released at death, that is a myth.

One does not need evidence, when he has proof. We have to look within ourself to find this answer, Just like when we catch our shadow. Just like everyone looking for ego death when we travel. Ego death can be felt anytime but it is our choice to find it and if we follow our ego , it will never happen. It will be shown to you at the council when it is to late. Remember, we experience the universe, ego death, bliss, the truth and all of that correct. The judging is also done, we just don't feel that,that part is not shown to us. We are also shown the truth about the earth and the water. Well it's true and it hurts in a way you will not know until the moment you pass and the dmt releases, everyone has to go through it if they don't go through it, through themselves on earth. We can do it brother!! It can be done

When making a claim on the Nexus, you need to be able to back it up. As far as the scientific community is aware, there is no evidence that supports the theory that DMT is released at birth or death. If you are trying to claim otherwise, then the burden of proof is on you. Simply stating something you believe is true won't cut it. This is part of the forum rules as seen here:

Quality of information and discussion:
If you post something as a fact, you have to be able to provide a reliable source for your argument. This depends contextually, but a peer-reviewed publication is an example of what could be a good source, and a random unknown website or what “someone said” could be an example of an unreliable source. If you state something as your opinion then please support that opinion with good reasoning. If you cannot do that then don't state your opinion at all since it's useless for others. This is not Facebook with like/dislike.

Is it true the pineal gland produces DMT naturally and is involved in dreaming and death? What does DMT do in the body?
At this point there is no evidence to support the claim that DMT is produced in the pineal or brain. It is a speculation raised by Dr Rick Strassman due to his previous interest in the pineal. So far in humans, the key enzymes necessary for this have not been found present in the human brain, therefore it seem more likely it is produced elsewhere in the body, though some recent research has shown in primates these enzymes are present in pineal gland. In any case nothing is really proven yet so we must avoid making claims before more data comes in.

The supposed connection of DMT and dreams, and the idea that DMT is released when we die, both are speculation with no real evidence to back them up.

It IS proven, though, for decades already, that DMT is produced in the human body and is present at all times in trace amounts. The reason why it is there is still a matter of debate, and some scientists have proposed a few ideas with some evidence to back them up, all of which are mentioned in the last link below:

Also:

Endogenous DMT: Facts and Fiction

DMT spike at birth would substantiate connection to spirit world on dmt

 

[Hoobaleenyo]

There is no evidence that DMT is released at death, that is a myth.

One does not need evidence, when he has proof. We have to look within ourself to find this answer, Just like when we catch our shadow. Just like everyone looking for ego death when we travel. Ego death can be felt anytime but it is our choice to find it and if we follow our ego , it will never happen. It will be shown to you at the council when it is to late. Remember, we experience the universe, ego death, bliss, the truth and all of that correct. The judging is also done, we just don't feel that,that part is not shown to us. We are also shown the truth about the earth and the water. Well it's true and it hurts in a way you will not know until the moment you pass and the dmt releases, everyone has to go through it if they don't go through it, through themselves on earth. We can do it brother!! It can be done

When making a claim on the Nexus, you need to be able to back it up. As far as the scientific community is aware, there is no evidence that supports the theory that DMT is released at birth or death. If you are trying to claim otherwise, then the burden of proof is on you. Simply stating something you believe is true won't cut it. This is part of the forum rules as seen here:

Quality of information and discussion:
If you post something as a fact, you have to be able to provide a reliable source for your argument. This depends contextually, but a peer-reviewed publication is an example of what could be a good source, and a random unknown website or what “someone said” could be an example of an unreliable source. If you state something as your opinion then please support that opinion with good reasoning. If you cannot do that then don't state your opinion at all since it's useless for others. This is not Facebook with like/dislike.

Is it true the pineal gland produces DMT naturally and is involved in dreaming and death? What does DMT do in the body?
At this point there is no evidence to support the claim that DMT is produced in the pineal or brain. It is a speculation raised by Dr Rick Strassman due to his previous interest in the pineal. So far in humans, the key enzymes necessary for this have not been found present in the human brain, therefore it seem more likely it is produced elsewhere in the body, though some recent research has shown in primates these enzymes are present in pineal gland. In any case nothing is really proven yet so we must avoid making claims before more data comes in.

The supposed connection of DMT and dreams, and the idea that DMT is released when we die, both are speculation with no real evidence to back them up.

It IS proven, though, for decades already, that DMT is produced in the human body and is present at all times in trace amounts. The reason why it is there is still a matter of debate, and some scientists have proposed a few ideas with some evidence to back them up, all of which are mentioned in the last link below:

Also:

Endogenous DMT: Facts and Fiction

DMT spike at birth would substantiate connection to spirit world on dmt

If myself gave the proof, everything would change. The scientific community would be thrown upside down along with the medical community. In time everything will be revealed. Myself could tell you the truth of it all and your shadow/ego will block you from seeing the truth. Not everything is see it to believe it, sometimes we have to find it out for ourself. Myself has seen the source of evil from the start of time, myself now is in battle with it. None of this was on dmt also which last week was my first time trying 5 me0. You want, myself can show you the shadow and it will change everything and everyone around you. Your worst bad trip and having nothing to do but sit there and wait it out, That's every single day 24/7 365 days a year. You don't want to know brother, trust me. If your not ready it will rip your face off(not literally but actually, that would be better and not hurt as much) and destroy everything around you. This kind of stuff is found and anyone can find it but be prepared when you do because it will never stop the rest of your life. It will either consume you or you will catch it. Myself can not tell you how to catch it, that is for everyone to do on their own. If we were told the truth it wouldn't be a journey would it.

 

[TGO]

If myself gave the proof, everything would change. The scientific community would be thrown upside down along with the medical community. In time everything will be revealed. Myself could tell you the truth of it all and your shadow/ego will block you from seeing the truth. Not everything is see it to believe it, sometimes we have to find it out for ourself. Myself has seen the source of evil from the start of time, myself now is in battle with it. None of this was on dmt also which last week was my first time trying 5 me0. You want, myself can show you the shadow and it will change everything and everyone around you. Your worst bad trip and having nothing to do but sit there and wait it out, That's every single day 24/7 365 days a year. You don't want to know brother, trust me. If your not ready it will rip your face off(not literally but actually, that would be better and not hurt as much) and destroy everything around you. This kind of stuff is found and anyone can find it but be prepared when you do because it will never stop the rest of your life. It will either consume you or you will catch it. Myself can not tell you how to catch it, that is for everyone to do on their own. If we were told the truth it wouldn't be a journey would it.

There are a lot of assumptions in your post. That aside, you are still not providing any evidence of your claim beyond, "trust me, I know! And if you knew it would rip your face off!"

That isn't an answer. If you actually have evidence to present to the medical and scientific community, that would be a great addition to the wealth of knowledge here at the Nexus! If you have found proof that DMT is released in death/birth/dreams, what is stopping you from sharing that valuable information with the rest of the forum? We would love to engage in a topic like that.

 

[Hoobaleenyo]

If myself gave the proof, everything would change. The scientific community would be thrown upside down along with the medical community. In time everything will be revealed. Myself could tell you the truth of it all and your shadow/ego will block you from seeing the truth. Not everything is see it to believe it, sometimes we have to find it out for ourself. Myself has seen the source of evil from the start of time, myself now is in battle with it. None of this was on dmt also which last week was my first time trying 5 me0. You want, myself can show you the shadow and it will change everything and everyone around you. Your worst bad trip and having nothing to do but sit there and wait it out, That's every single day 24/7 365 days a year. You don't want to know brother, trust me. If your not ready it will rip your face off(not literally but actually, that would be better and not hurt as much) and destroy everything around you. This kind of stuff is found and anyone can find it but be prepared when you do because it will never stop the rest of your life. It will either consume you or you will catch it. Myself can not tell you how to catch it, that is for everyone to do on their own. If we were told the truth it wouldn't be a journey would it.

There are a lot of assumptions in your post. That aside, you are still not providing any evidence of your claim beyond, "trust me, I know! And if you knew it would rip your face off!"

That isn't an answer. If you actually have evidence to present to the medical and scientific community, that would be a great addition to the wealth of knowledge here at the Nexus! If you have found proof that DMT is released in death/birth/dreams, what is stopping you from sharing that valuable information with the rest of the forum? We would love to engage in a topic like that.

It's and answer, it's just an answer your shadow doesn't like. What myself has found is inaide all of us to find. That is why everything was made to distract us from reaching it. You can find it on earth inside of You or you will find out from the council when you pass. The choice is up to you brother. This kind of stuff is not just to be given, we have to earn it through our battles with our ego. Obly you cab give yourself the truth.

You got less thab 20 years, brother, after that everything changes.

 

[TGO]

It's and answer, it's just an answer your shadow doesn't like. What myself has found is inaide all of us to find. That is why everything was made to distract us from reaching it. You can find it on earth inside of You or you will find out from the council when you pass. The choice is up to you brother. This kind of stuff is not just to be given, we have to earn it through our battles with our ego. Obly you cab give yourself the truth.

You got less thab 20 years, brother, after that everything changes.

I have less than 20 years? Are you claiming to be a soothsayer now too?

Until you provide evidence that DMT is released during dreams/birth/death, your claims remain unverified. That is what I'm asking you to prove. You say that you have knowledge that would throw the medical and scientific community upside down, yet you refuse to say what that is. All you have provided is mixed, muddy metaphors that vaguely allude to some great mystery/truth yet to be revealed to everyone. Again, these are not answers, they are your personal beliefs.

When you start stating your personal beliefs as fact, you have to back it up with evidence.

 

[Hoobaleenyo]

It's and answer, it's just an answer your shadow doesn't like. What myself has found is inaide all of us to find. That is why everything was made to distract us from reaching it. You can find it on earth inside of You or you will find out from the council when you pass. The choice is up to you brother. This kind of stuff is not just to be given, we have to earn it through our battles with our ego. Obly you cab give yourself the truth.

You got less thab 20 years, brother, after that everything changes.

I have less than 20 years? Are you claiming to be a soothsayer now too?

Until you provide evidence that DMT is released during dreams/birth/death, your claims remain unverified. That is what I'm asking you to prove. You say that you have knowledge that would throw the medical and scientific community upside down, yet you refuse to say what that is. All you have provided is mixed, muddy metaphors that vaguely allude to some great mystery/truth yet to be revealed to everyone. Again, these are not answers, they are your personal beliefs.

When you start stating your personal beliefs as fact, you have to back it up with evidence.

You have the answer, it's inside of you. Now stop asking me for the answer and find it yourself, just like myself did. If myself can find it than surely someone who wants to know as much as you do, will find it. Ask your true self to reveal itself during meditation, if you have been passing testes instead of failing them, it will come to you. When the time is right was the same thing told to me. Then just like you myself wanted the answers without finding it for myself. So really myself like you, wanted someone else to do the work for me. It doesn't work that way brother. We have to find ourself on our own, myself is just hear to guide the way.

You can heal yourself and no they are not personal beliefs, you question, what you do not know. How do you know myself is lying? you do not know me, you know nothing of me. Your letting your shadow control your questions and thoughts brother. Why can't someone just tell the truth without having to be questioned? If you search into yourself, you will find myself is telling the truth. The person asked for answers and myself gave them to him. He asked in a different way truly wanting answers, he got them. It is still up to him what he does with it or anyone for that matter. It all comes down to choice. When we want answers to things we are not yet prepared for, the harm us instead of heal us brother. Myself isn't some special person, messiah, the one or anything like that at all, myself has just found myself and knows how to heal. We all can do the same thing that myself has found, our shadow just makes us believe "that can't happen" or "this guys nuts!!!" Yourself has the answers for you, it is up to you to search within and find them. And right now after reading this, that feeling you get to want to come back with more questions in the wrong way or your opinion, it's your shadow/ego. It's up to you if you want to fail this test or pass. You are not ready for it yet brother but if you want, myself will teach and guide you and anyone who truly wants it, the whole way!! Breathe in through your nose and out your mouth more brother, it will calm you.

 

[TGO]

:lol:

Once again, you fail provide any evidence whatsoever of your claims. You've also gone out of your way to assume an awful lot about me.

These are just your personal beliefs with no basis in factual reality. But you are free to believe whatever you like, no one is disputing that. But when you come to a public forum and make these sort of claims, you have to be prepared to back it up. But now I'm just repeating myself.