thanks for that, are you planning on trying this resin soon? please do a trip report and let me know how the gut load was with the resinOk here's the tek:
Acquired two K valle Bridgesii about 12 inches in length and cut into stars. Dehydrated the stars for 20 hours at 160 in a standard dehydrator from Walmart, about $50.
Once dried, i snapped the edges off leaving the white cores separated from dried green plant matter (including skin). I discarded the cores. This all seemed easier than slicing all the green stuff while wet, but in reality after doing that, i doubt it. But it did yield one advantage: no possible loss of alkaloids.
I then took the dried green stuff and powderized. The powder yield was then put into a massive pot filled nearly to the top and boiled. From here I simply copied the popular san pedro powder tea guide on YouTube made by TheQuietDreamer, except I added a shit load of lime juice because I didn't see any disadvantage to making the mescaline more water soluable.
For those who don't want to look on YouTube, you basically just boil the powder until the snot mixture reduces to about 1/7th of your pot. From there you refill the pot back to full and reduce it to 1/7th volume again.
After that you do 3 re washes, filtering the tea from the sludge each time. I used a French press to squeeze the brown tea from the sludge, collected the tea and then reboiled the sludge. This had some advantages in the beginning because i was able to lose less alkaloid rich water in the fibers of a t-shirt, but it was tedious as hell to be honest. Its really hard to stop particulates from slipping past the mesh in the french press when you apply too much pressure, so you gotta push it down really slowly, wait, then push some more. Doubt ill do this again. I saw someone on here used a metal mesh set up to squeeze the sludge without losing yield to cloth; i plan to copy that next time.
So basically that part is just pulling as much alkaloids from the sludge (powder) as you can before discarding. The final pull is when I busted out a T-shirt for straining because I figured the water wasn't as alkaloid rich anymore and I could afford to lose some milligrams for convenience.
In the end I had 3 full mason jars of dark brown tea with little to no particulates. This is where it got a little sloppy . I reduced the tea in a big pot until it was noticeably thicker (even at that hot temp). Once there, i started to get paranoid about accidentally burning it, so I decided to try an improvised double boil. Pic below.
This really slowed the reduction down, and I lost patience once the reduction kind of stalled out at a maple syrup consistency. I also started wondering just how many alkaloids were trapped in the resin clinging to the edges on the side of the bowl. I couldnt help but think I need every bit of that stuff, so I froze it overnight hoping itd be easy to scrape in the morning.
To my surprise, it really was. This stuff when frozen had the consistency of ice cream. Super easy to ball up into one frozen conglomerate. I experimented with just making resin balls out of that, thinking they'd freeze in shape and i could pop them before they started to thaw - didnt work. Melts way too fast and its way too sticky.
Instead I flattened it onto some parchment paper supported by tin foil and dehydrated it in the same dehydrator for 7 hours. The end! Rolled all that resin into little balls and they shall be consumed as one dose, spread apart in the very near future. Will definitely be doing a detailed trip report to follow this.
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First time mescaline trip: k-valle Bridgesii
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Will do brother
One would think so but, surprisingly, there seems to be no problem with combining RIMAs like those in Syrian rue and MDMA. E.g. see Trout's Notes, "Cactus alkaloids", pages 118-119. Not that I personally recommend the combination or would try it, and I haven't checked what kind of MAOI cacti contain.
Anyways, I was referring to pure mescaline.
I used to go to forest raves and combine mdma with full spectrum trichocereus extracts. Some amazing nights.
The resin tek you used @liucha will likely get a lot of goodies out but at the cost of extracting a lot of extra plant material. If you read through the post that @SkunK posted and the OPs other posts about how he makes the resin you'll get some good ideas. In that variation you don't boil so vigorously. Minimal water, slow cooker it and reduce. The result is more potent, albeit maybe not as efficient, and you end up with less resin to need to take. Using the ideas from the tek linked gave me a golden flakey, almost crystalline 'resin' which 5g was beautifully strong and comparable to tea in terms of effects, possibly less nausea. I've got some HCl here to test, is like to know how it compares with the more golden resin.
Yes, exactly! I shouldn't have been so lazy and linked it myself.
That's a better write up for a much better quality resin. I need to experiment more with it but have enough HCl to last me a while, but also a bunch of powder to process..
I'll be reading this thread a little better tomorrow this sounds like it produces a cleaner full spectrum extract with alot less plant material which should help with the gut load. Thanks for the link
Pretty sure
There are also variations of this tek on Reddit written up by LSDuck, but I'm pretty sure he would have gotten inspiration from that thread. On Reddit there's a vinegar resin tek that is supposedly really good but I haven't had the chance to test it out.
One thing with mescaline is that the molecule itself is nauseating, or at least that's how I understand/experience it. So while it probably reduces gut load, my experience is it didn't completely eliminate it. But certainly was less than some experiences I've had lol, I shudder to remember them. I find cactus in general to be the vilest tasting medicine by a decent margin, lucky mescalito is such a beautiful teacher..
Edit: I am unsure if I can link Reddit threads here?
One thing with mescaline is that the molecule itself is nauseating, or at least that's how I understand/experience it. So while it probably reduces gut load, my experience is it didn't completely eliminate it. But certainly was less than some experiences I've had lol, I shudder to remember them. I find cactus in general to be the vilest tasting medicine by a decent margin, lucky mescalito is such a beautiful teacher..
Edit: I am unsure if I can link Reddit threads here?
I'm pretty sure you can link reddit links, but wait for a mod to confirm, you could DM me those links I would like to read over them as well.
I have never had nausea from HCL --> very mdma like buzz or at least similar. The last cacti tea I had a buddy used vinegar to the brew and he added too much and didn't reduce it enough. was a very unpleasant purge for everyone in our party.
If it were up to me I'd ban Reddit threads
Half the stuff on there is low effort rip offs from here or other dedicated sites but this tek is actually good.One tip I got from there is using silicone baking trays to dry the resin. That way you harvest the resin really easy just by bending the tray.Ooo now I am very excited to try my HCl. Got a lit 4g so by the end of it I should be able to talk with more experience from pure extract, right now I have none.
I've not used MDMA since I started with cactus - mescaline always seemed warm and open enough for me. Maybe I'll take a look at some further reports of this combination and reconsider…
How was the aftermath, though?
Recently I brewed thinly-cut, fresh cactus strips as though they were herb tea (because they are
) and this really suited the slow-and-gentle dosing approach. It's possible to use flavorings of ones own choice - aka admixture plants - and change them up for multiple re-brews. In short, it worked really nicely as a complement to chewing strips of raw cactus, while the surprising efficacy may have been down to the cactus itself being well into the higher end of the potency scale. Thus, one would be advised to select ones cactus with care for a couple of reasons - besides variations in potency, some specimens may contain high levels of tyramine and other 'incompletely' substituted amines relative to mescaline, some of which I strongly suspect to be capable of precipitating unpleasant vascular headaches. Such specimens likely will be improved by the process of aging them in the dark.Raw cactus CWE might even be worth a try, so there's another thing to look up.
Yes, no problem about that.
Well yes, posting low-value reddit threads is definitely discouraged, but so far it doesn't seem to happen frequently, if ever.
There's no issue, you can post it.
About nausea, there are (at least) two types of nausea: related to the stomach and unrelated. The unrelated to the stomach is often felt in the chest and face, and is very frequent with high doses of harmalas. I felt a bit of that during the come-up of mescaline. That kind is probably unavoidable, and I think it's likely to be at least partly due to psychologist reasons.
Nausea originating in the stomach can be minimized with ginger, lemonene (or lemon essential oil), and using enteric coated capsules to bypass the stomach. The latter is quite effective but I'd only use it with pure substances, not full spectrum plant extracts.
What tek did you use for the HCL? I've always used Kask's A/B and it has worked very well for me, I'm sitting on a few grams of it! good stuff and neve had nasua from it. 1 gram of it and I'm flipping rippedIf it were up to me I'd ban Reddit threads
Ooo now I am very excited to try my HCl. Got a lit 4g so by the end of it I should be able to talk with more experience from pure extract, right now I have none.
I like the silicone tray, would make it easier to get the goods out of
First one is a variation on House's Tek
Second is a vinegar variation, I cannot vouch for that one but from the discussions the results are pretty good in terms of a low weight/high potency resin.
The take away is low heat, low agitation and reduce.
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Same here, Kash A/B. Just finished one of the biggest exams of my life and so maybe I'll have to celebrate with some HCl lolWhat tek did you use for the HCL? I've always used Kask's A/B and it has worked very well for me, I'm sitting on a few grams of it! good stuff and neve had nasua from it. 1 gram of it and I'm flipping ripped
I like the silicone tray, would make it easier to get the goods out of
Kashs A/B for the win... its been super good for me, and you will enjoy it! Just don't take my dose recommendation. If its your first time start lower and redose a bit if you feel you need more
I dont like suggestion doses as everyone reacts differently to substances.
I'm pretty accustomed to teas but I'm thinking of going more 450-500mg first time, just to see, I'd go lower if I hadn't had mescaline so many times in tea and a few times in various resins. Best resin I made was definitely based on the ideas in house's thread and the Reddit one.
I know what you mean re dosing. I gave dosing suggestions the other day and instantly regretted it. Start slow and work up is a great mantra to live by.
do write a trip report an link me through a DM if you do!
There was a thread for kash's A/B for yeilds, its good to see other people using his tek, supplies were easily obtained and last forever. with a sepratory funnel makes seperation a breeze ! Should revive that thread I could post alot of old extractions and yeilds.
Sidestep rawdogging reddit thusly:
