First Time Trying HBW Seeds - LSA - Advice Needed

[melotikaci]

I think I had quite an unusual start with experimenting with psychadelics. Because of the ease of acquisition, legal status and, of course, my great interest the first psychadelic I tried was DMT which I extracted myself from mhrb(extraction isn't legal, though ).

And for the same reasons it's LSAs turn now which I'll be getting from Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds.

So I think piece of advice from experienced people would be really helpful.

I have 26 seeds and will be taking it with 3 of my close friends in a quite and peaceful environment. So ~6.5 seeds for each. I think it's a good starting dose. :?: (others have experience with lsd, nbome and mdma)

I think I'm not going to extract pure? ) lsa, so I'd like to know somewhat comfortable ways to administer it.(tea, mix with vodka or etc.)

Any suggestions regarding what I don't know I need to know are welcome.

 

[Asher7]

If any of the suggestions also apply to morning glories toss a little *(applies to mgs also) or something at the bottom of your poast pls. Thank you.

 

[Sakkadelic]

I've had few experiences with hbwr
Chewing and eating the seeds caused very strong nausea and vasoconstriction, hard to breath and i really felt like i was dying, then suddenly after like 2 hours all the negative effects go and the trip starts.. very euphoric
The best experience i had was when i powdered 15 seeds and mixed with 150 ml vodka for a day in the fridge, then filtered, added some more vodka to the seeds and filtered again.. i split the liquid with 2 friends, this didn't help with nausea, the experience was not very trippy but life changing i realized things and took decisions that affected my life greatly..
We also had a very beautiful night and felt very connected..
In this trip my friends didn't get the same nausea i did, drinking lemonade eliminated all the nausea instantly..

Good luck

 

[TGO]

I've had few experiences with hbwr
Chewing and eating the seeds caused very strong nausea and vasoconstriction, hard to breath and i really felt like i was dying, then suddenly after like 2 hours all the negative effects go and the trip starts.. very euphoric

I have also had a few experiences with HBWR LSA and the above pretty much describes it. I don't know if it was just me, but I would get a little bit of pain in my inner thighs as well, and stretching didn't help much. It might be unrelated but it happened every time I ate HBWR (10-15 seeds crushed chewed and swallowed, or sublingual technique). It is not my favorite psychedelic but it is worth seeing what it is like, at least once. IMO, it is much milder than the other classic hallucinogens.

Originally, LSA was one of the first psychedelics I ever tried. If anything it set me on my path to growing mushrooms and opened up a lot of new perspectives within myself.

My advice would be to make sure that you have something to combat the nausea (I prefer weed) because it can become very distracting and overwhelming. Good luck and have fun!

 

[melotikaci]

It's interesting if sudden transition from 'suffering' to an euphoric trip feels like some kind of a reward. We'll see..

I'll definitely get a lemonade and probably weed too to overcome nausea.

Thanks for the advice.

 

[syberdelic]

I once had an experience with 8 HBWS. I roasted the seeds as this is supposed to help with nausea. I then pulverized them and made tea. The trip level was mild to moderate but the nausea was debilatating. I puked three times and continued to dry heaves for a few hours. The nausea subsided with the trip. The next morning, I had a splitting headache and a massive hangover. I will never repeat this and would highly advise others to avoid it. There might be an extraction Tek to better purify but roasting and making tea is a no go.

 

[melotikaci]

I once had an experience with 8 HBWS. I roasted the seeds as this is supposed to help with nausea. I then pulverized them and made tea. The trip level was mild to moderate but the nausea was debilatating. I puked three times and continued to dry heaves for a few hours. The nausea subsided with the trip. The next morning, I had a splitting headache and a massive hangover. I will never repeat this and would highly advise others to avoid it. There might be an extraction Tek to better purify but roasting and making tea is a no go.

maybe some no good chemicals break out on heat that cause these terrible effects?
If the experience will be worth repeating or not worth but decide to give it a second chance, I'll definitely try lsa extraction.
All in all I'm being optimistic so far. And avoiding tea for sure. Thanks.

 

[Sakkadelic]

It's LSA so heat must be avoided

I also read that removing the fluffy layer coating the seeds helps reduce nausea, and for me chanting(even just internally) helps a lot..

LSA might not be very strong and trippy but it's very beautiful, i tried 1P-LSD recently and i actually liked the good parts of the LSA trip more, after that hell to heaven transition it really feels so good, i felt like pure raw love from god(the source) is pouring on me, like if you look at what you have and all the beauty in the world you realize how much god loves you but it wasn't like that through symbols, it was just LOVE, i felt so euphoric blessed and happy, i was going to burst of happiness, i felt that if we can see how much god really loves us we will vanish.. i met someone and felt he was an angel, i thought of my girlfriend and realised that she is the one and what exactly is my role in her life and that's when i decided to continue with her then i saw our death hehe.. at the end of the night i was laying on a roof and i felt my soul leaving me and floating like in the movie "enter the void"..
All this was just on 5-6 seeds and i also smoked some hash after i entered the heaven part of the trip which might have helped making this trip more beautiful

I tried the extraction, kash tek and improvised a little and failed terribly.

Edit: here's my first lsa trip report first time HBWR - Trip report (4 seeds). - LSD, LSA, LSH - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus i miss those days when i was so happy

 

[Cognitive Heart]

Ergine is a gem. :thumb_up:

Be prepared for enduring any physiological responses.. such as nausea, vomiting, vasoconstriction, etc.. all of which can be greatly or at least partially reduced with cannabis, peppermint, Vit C, theobromine; just to name a few. Sometimes following an experience as such can be beneficial in the long term, though. A very earthy and Gaia-like change in consciousness. When utilized rightfully and intentionally, of course. Be sure to have at least one or two people sober at those doses. I once witnessed a man experiencing a temporary, sweltering confusion on 100 morning glory seeds as his sitter first time around, so take care in assessing your prep, dose, and set-setting. Do not use heat or light with LSA containing seeds.

A beautiful, unfolding experience can be had so I wish you well.

 

[melotikaci]

It's LSA so heat must be avoided

I also read that removing the fluffy layer coating the seeds helps reduce nausea, and for me chanting(even just internally) helps a lot..

LSA might not be very strong and trippy but it's very beautiful, i tried 1P-LSD recently and i actually liked the good parts of the LSA trip more, after that hell to heaven transition it really feels so good, i felt like pure raw love from god(the source) is pouring on me, like if you look at what you have and all the beauty in the world you realize how much god loves you but it wasn't like that through symbols, it was just LOVE, i felt so euphoric blessed and happy, i was going to burst of happiness, i felt that if we can see how much god really loves us we will vanish.. i met someone and felt he was an angel, i thought of my girlfriend and realised that she is the one and what exactly is my role in her life and that's when i decided to continue with her then i saw our death hehe.. at the end of the night i was laying on a roof and i felt my soul leaving me and floating like in the movie "enter the void"..
All this was just on 5-6 seeds and i also smoked some hash after i entered the heaven part of the trip which might have helped making this trip more beautiful

I tried the extraction, kash tek and improvised a little and failed terribly.

Edit: here's my first lsa trip report first time HBWR - Trip report (4 seeds). - LSD, LSA, LSH - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus i miss those days when i was so happy

Awesome report. I never thought lsa could be such beneficial.
Hope you'll get your happy days back. Be cool.
And thanks again.

Ergine is a lovely gem. :thumb_up:

Be prepared for enduring any physiological responses.. such as nausea, vomiting, vasoconstriction, etc.. all of which can be greatly or at least partially reduced with cannabis, peppermint, Vit C, theobromine; just to name a few. Sometimes following an experience as such can be beneficial in the long term, though. A very earthy and Gaia-like change in consciousness. When utilized rightfully and intentionally, of course. Be sure to have at least one or two people sober at those doses. I once witnessed a man experiencing a temporary, sweltering confusion on 100 morning glory seeds as his sitter first time around, so take care in assessing your prep, dose, and set-setting. Do not use heat or light with LSA containing seeds.

A beautiful, unfolding experience can be had so I wish you well.

So we can put high hopes in hbws
Hopefully I'll deal with physical suffering well. Will definitely have a sitter. :thumb_up:

 

[melotikaci]

I did it. It was very special, extremely interesting and extraordinary. 100% will repeat.
It deserves long and detailed technical review which I'll write soon.
Thanks again to everyoe.

 

[Gone-and-Back]

Glad to hear you had a good time.

I always found the only way to combat the nausea was to do an extraction and purify it somewhat. Otherwise the other ways I have done it are crushing the seeds and letting it sit in between my gums and lip. I dont swallow anything, including spit, and after about 15 mins spit everything out. Nausea wasnt terrible but it was still there. That was with 5-10 seeds.

 

[melotikaci]

Glad to hear you had a good time.

I always found the only way to combat the nausea was to do an extraction and purify it somewhat. Otherwise the other ways I have done it are crushing the seeds and letting it sit in between my gums and lip. I dont swallow anything, including spit, and after about 15 mins spit everything out. Nausea wasnt terrible but it was still there. That was with 5-10 seeds.

Thanks.
Interesting thing is that I didn't have any nausea at all, zero pain or discomforting effects. I had 8 seeds.
I'll finish a report tomorrow I guess and check it out if you mind.

 

[Sakkadelic]

beautiful
i am waiting for your report
you just ate the seeds? maybe not all people have these side effects i, i read about others having no side effects like you, for me i am sensitive to this even from lsd i get nausea and strang vasoconstriction

 

[melotikaci]

beautiful
i am waiting for your report
you just ate the seeds? maybe not all people have these side effects i, i read about others having no side effects like you, for me i am sensitive to this even from lsd i get nausea and strang vasoconstriction

I crashed them, added peppermint oil drops, added little amount of vodka to cover seeds, let it sit for few minutes, then added enough water to neutralize any taste and after drinking that I ate chocolate ice cream.

 

[melotikaci]

Finally I finished it: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Analitycal Trip Report - Collaborative Research Project - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

I guess I posted it in wrong section, but doesn't really matter