? For changa or E/Leaf smokers

[Earthwalker]

Ok so I'm at a stage now I'm producing fairly pure dmt nowdays and I prefere to go the e/leaf in the bong then vape my crystal
but !

Am I over dosing / wasting / my mix , this is why I ask I mix 1.1 ratio and I weighed the amount of herb I loaded into the cone which weighed roughly 190mg so I'm smoking 95mg dmt edit;;; it rips me to beyond and back but Am I wasting it ?? I mean if 20-30mg is the normal dose for freebase why doesn't the same amount work in the bong with E/leaf !!! this way the dose is tripled in size so why is this ?? What's the normal mg dose with changa for a sub breakthrough dose ???

 

[3rdI]

sounds odd, are you getting that down in 1? how long are you holding the hits for?

i think infusions may be less efficiant than proper vaping but not that much, 95mg:shock:

 

[Earthwalker]

sounds odd, are you getting that down in 1? how long are you holding the hits for?

i think infusions may be less efficiant than proper vaping but not that much, 95mg:shock:

One big hit , hits hard fast and strong , I hold it till I exhale almost no smoke but sometimes it's almost like I blackout and come to with a big stringy drool 2 ft long so maybe I'm over doing it , ohh and these trips last sometimes up to 20mins !! :thumb_up:

 

[○]

For me, ive always made 1:1.

I typically would weigh out 55-60mg of changa, and get it all in one, or sometimes two, hits. I used to load between 75-85mg of changa when smoking, but over the course of time, sensitivity arises, and it becomes easier to sync up with the flow.

One time i loaded 80-85mg of my 1:1 in a mini bong, took it all in one hit. Incredibly thick smoke, extremely strong taste. The experience came on to full peak within 2-3 seconds. Had no time to wonder a single thought, as i was completely dissolved, infinitely expanding, living endless lives all simultaneously/ clear light of the void endlessly reverberating.

hope this was of some help

 

[Curb]

maybe you are ripping it too early. when i first smoked dmt it was by putting crystals directly onto a small amount of herb and just using the heat* off the lighter to melt/vape the xtals (only lighting the herb once majority has been vaped). in that method 30mg is good and 50mg is very intense. be calm, dont be in a rush to breath in and go slow. you should be able to taste if you are burning it or not. row row row the boat GENTLY down the stream.

edit: *jet lighter, flame atleast 1cm off. HEAT not flame.

 

[spinCycle]

Try topping the bowl with a bit of Caapi leaf (plain or enhanced) or other herb. Light the herb and let the heat from it burn the changa instead of direct flame. Works like a magic charm pointed at hyperspace.

 

[Earthwalker]

Try topping the bowl with a bit of Caapi leaf (plain or enhanced) or other herb. Light the herb and let the heat from it burn the changa instead of direct flame. Works like a magic charm pointed at hyperspace.

Remember this is enhanced leaf not changa
I've tried like curb advised using heat only but I'll give this way a go , maybe I just got to find my happy medium sweet spot or maybe I'm just the type that needs the larger dose ,, it's hard to get a gvg due to customs in Australia !!

Maybe harmala is needed !!!

 

[3rdI]

One big hit , hits hard fast and strong , I hold it till I exhale almost no smoke but sometimes it's almost like I blackout and come to with a big stringy drool 2 ft long so maybe I'm over doing it , ohh and these trips last sometimes up to 20mins !! :thumb_up:

sorry i must have misread your post, i thought you said nothing happened after that dose. My guess would be that you are indeed taking to much and the blackout is the result.

im not up on customs in Oz but my friend from down your way got his GVG through customs without any trouble, maybe could you ask them to label it as something else before they send it?

 

[dmt_spider]

There is a very popular Australian website that now sells the GVG, it has "bongs" in the URL preceded by the slang for "Aus".

 

[Earthwalker]

There is a very popular Australian website that now sells the GVG, it has "bongs" in the URL preceded by the slang for "Aus".

Sorry 3rdI I should've explained better !!
Yes thank you dmt_spider !!

 

[DreaMTripper]

Yeah only the wooden is available domestically in Aus and Ive never liked smoking or vaping through wood it has a harshness to it.

 

[dmt_spider]

Yeah only the wooden is available domestically in Aus and Ive never liked smoking or vaping through wood it has a harshness to it.

See my post above. :thumb_up:

 

[DreaMTripper]

Couldnt see it before, now ive found it its hidden away isnt it! Bloody expensive too maybe cheaper importing it..

Yes EW get into the harmala very suprised you havent already!

 

[Earthwalker]

Yeah only the wooden is available domestically in Aus and Ive never liked smoking or vaping through wood it has a harshness to it.

See my post above. :thumb_up:

Is it really really with the coin $129 , that a f### of a lot off money unless it's does take efficiency to a whole nother leval !!

 

[DreaMTripper]

People say once youve got the technique down you can dose 25-30mg and breakthrough, if you smoke or take sublingual harmala beforehand you could get that down to 15-20mg!

 

[3rdI]

they're little glass savages, mine scares me, it sits in the corner and mocks my fear. Get one.

 

[anrchy]

I can (and others) breakthrough on 15mg with the gvg without any maoi. It's become an important piece. Use a small torch rather then a lighter.

 

[--Shadow]

it's hard to get a gvg due to customs in Australia !!

I had no problem

Regarding the Enhanced Leaf v Changa. I do a full cone of E-leaf (1:1)in a small water bong. I don't go that deep, distractions easily pull me out of it.

However, the Change (same E-Leaf, + Harmalas @ 1:1:1), I only have 3/4 cones as the smoke seems way thicker. The changa I usually get thrown into a void and only remember landing back to earth not knowing what on earth just went on... and each time I think in my head "wait.. did I just have the 2nd cone...?"