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For me, DMT doesn't work well?
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I'm going to combine everyone's suggestions here: Make some Changa and hit it in a bong, it will taste nice and launch you into hyperspace in one hit. I've never had a problem smoking it this way.
Plus you get that added caapi quality, which is lovely in its own right 8)
Hyperspace Fool said:
Plus you get that added caapi quality, which is lovely in its own right 8)
UPDATE:
Problem - I think- brand 'Kleen stirp, VM&P Naptha' maybe leaving something in the product?
Facts:
So, got a GVG and all suitable inhaling paraphernalia and methods down.
Did a few more pulls using STB with ‘Kleen Strip VM&P’ Naptha from Lowes.
Getting ‘bright yellow’ almost neon yellow & white dmt.
Ick. Does not provide me a good headspace but does leave me with a headache.
So- Purify…
1st try: Used 1 gram of 4 from initial yellowish pull.
Re-crystallization with Bestine, heated too long but ended up with natural yellow crystals.
Not neon. natural. -> that’s a key point I think.
This product blew me away and was awesome, as described by many.
Bam! Ok! So this is DMT.
2nd try: using 2 grams of the same rough DMT, didn’t heat so much. Not above 150f. Not as long.
I got neon yellow crystals. Almost same color as starting product.
These gave me a headache and didn't really do much. Difference was night and day actually.
Both were re-crystallized with the same batch of Bestine and used the same starting product.
VASTLY different results when inhaled.
Questions:
Is it the brand of Naptha? Totally trying Ronsonal or Neon? What is best?
So- temp. and time are the only differences between really good stuff and really crappy stuff?
And bright yellow vs. natural yellow? Anyone else experienced pretty different results from seemingly similar stuff?
Problem - I think- brand 'Kleen stirp, VM&P Naptha' maybe leaving something in the product?
Facts:
So, got a GVG and all suitable inhaling paraphernalia and methods down.
Did a few more pulls using STB with ‘Kleen Strip VM&P’ Naptha from Lowes.
Getting ‘bright yellow’ almost neon yellow & white dmt.
Ick. Does not provide me a good headspace but does leave me with a headache.
So- Purify…
1st try: Used 1 gram of 4 from initial yellowish pull.
Re-crystallization with Bestine, heated too long but ended up with natural yellow crystals.
Not neon. natural. -> that’s a key point I think.
This product blew me away and was awesome, as described by many.
Bam! Ok! So this is DMT.
2nd try: using 2 grams of the same rough DMT, didn’t heat so much. Not above 150f. Not as long.
I got neon yellow crystals. Almost same color as starting product.
These gave me a headache and didn't really do much. Difference was night and day actually.
Both were re-crystallized with the same batch of Bestine and used the same starting product.
VASTLY different results when inhaled.
Questions:
Is it the brand of Naptha? Totally trying Ronsonal or Neon? What is best?
So- temp. and time are the only differences between really good stuff and really crappy stuff?
And bright yellow vs. natural yellow? Anyone else experienced pretty different results from seemingly similar stuff?
Exactly. So somehow I'm making bad stuff and I'm not sure where in the process I'm going wrong.
But- suprised that no one else has got stuff like this. It's effects are very different. Not like weak dmt or jungle spice. Like broken spice somehow.
But- suprised that no one else has got stuff like this. It's effects are very different. Not like weak dmt or jungle spice. Like broken spice somehow.
update... so-
have done many more washes coming out with different stuff with very different results!
First:
I think I have a abnormally high tolerance to dmt, it takes me a huge amount for me to really go out there. More dense hits then I feel comfortable taking even while using a GVG with a copper sponge do hicky.
But.... as I reported a while back:
No, I was wrong.... that was actually DMT with a touch of jungle spice.
After, I made a few crystal white very pure batches of dmt. Very white. Very clean and pure.
Again, Took me almost no where. I found it very hard to take off, even with 2 or 3 good tokes and a lot loaded in the GVG didn't do much.
very disappointed. This takes to much smoking- it is too uncomfortable to get to where I want to be.
How did I get that magical stuff one time that only took 1 toke?
But- when I re-ex'd a little pure white dmt with a touch of jungle fats I had left over from a pull...
Bam! Again! Same stuff!
1 small hit took me too the moon! I mean the difference between pure white and natural when it had a little jungle was like 10x.
I will try another batch like this, using pure white dmt, mixing with a tad of jungle fats and coming out with a nice 'natural tan' spice. I think the other active ingredients in the jungle make it way more potent, for me anyway!
I think this is different then the natural tan dmt may acquire over time by aging. I think that is oxidization, and does not provide the same effect. I think there are other juices in the jungle fats that enliven the experience by a HUGE amount.
... for me anyway.
Has anyone else found this?
have done many more washes coming out with different stuff with very different results!
First:
I think I have a abnormally high tolerance to dmt, it takes me a huge amount for me to really go out there. More dense hits then I feel comfortable taking even while using a GVG with a copper sponge do hicky.
But.... as I reported a while back:
No, I was wrong.... that was actually DMT with a touch of jungle spice.
After, I made a few crystal white very pure batches of dmt. Very white. Very clean and pure.
Again, Took me almost no where. I found it very hard to take off, even with 2 or 3 good tokes and a lot loaded in the GVG didn't do much.
very disappointed. This takes to much smoking- it is too uncomfortable to get to where I want to be.
How did I get that magical stuff one time that only took 1 toke?
But- when I re-ex'd a little pure white dmt with a touch of jungle fats I had left over from a pull...
Bam! Again! Same stuff!
1 small hit took me too the moon! I mean the difference between pure white and natural when it had a little jungle was like 10x.
I will try another batch like this, using pure white dmt, mixing with a tad of jungle fats and coming out with a nice 'natural tan' spice. I think the other active ingredients in the jungle make it way more potent, for me anyway!
I think this is different then the natural tan dmt may acquire over time by aging. I think that is oxidization, and does not provide the same effect. I think there are other juices in the jungle fats that enliven the experience by a HUGE amount.
... for me anyway.
Has anyone else found this?
Indeed there is a qualitative difference. Best guess is that some jungle alks may function as MAOIs.
Have you tried Changa? Mixing your spice with a decent amount of caapi leaves or perhaps predosing with the RIMA of your choice might make a world of difference for you.
In fact, you may want to go ahead and make some pharmahuasca... then if you aren't quite as far out as you want to be, you can always puff some bowls of pure spice. Note that you will need considerably less.
Another thing to ponder is how long you hold your hits, how deep they go into your lungs, and the temp that you are heating them to. Vaping 25mg in a single toke and holding should put anyone into hyperspace. The only people who don't seem to get there are those with weak lungs, asthma and the like. A little breathwork to tone up the respiratory system is always a good idea.
Anyway, good luck.
HF
Have you tried Changa? Mixing your spice with a decent amount of caapi leaves or perhaps predosing with the RIMA of your choice might make a world of difference for you.
In fact, you may want to go ahead and make some pharmahuasca... then if you aren't quite as far out as you want to be, you can always puff some bowls of pure spice. Note that you will need considerably less.
Another thing to ponder is how long you hold your hits, how deep they go into your lungs, and the temp that you are heating them to. Vaping 25mg in a single toke and holding should put anyone into hyperspace. The only people who don't seem to get there are those with weak lungs, asthma and the like. A little breathwork to tone up the respiratory system is always a good idea.
Anyway, good luck.
HF
Hi everyone!
just wanted to resurrect this thread because it explains my experience as close as it comes.
I have been trying DMT on and off and waiting days or weeks between trips and i don't use anything else so i can be at base line when i do.
AT first i had issues with the correct way and tried several ways. I did get a VGV and this made the difference.
But back to this thread I experience pretty much the same feelings, shapes, colors etc, every time i smoke. I completely zone out and fall into a trance. But, i don't experience a clear trip like i read from so many. Now i have only tried one product from a close friend. I'm thinking it maybe the spice. I really feel i have the technique down. I don't need a lot to set me off, the most i use is 50mg and i have gotten it down to about 35mg. I could try more, but the last several tries i feel its predictable, same colors, buzzing, shapes. i read so many who have said they see people , aliens, rabbits extra..but not me.
My question, do you experience DMT differently from different sources?
Thanks, love the web site
just wanted to resurrect this thread because it explains my experience as close as it comes.
I have been trying DMT on and off and waiting days or weeks between trips and i don't use anything else so i can be at base line when i do.
AT first i had issues with the correct way and tried several ways. I did get a VGV and this made the difference.
But back to this thread I experience pretty much the same feelings, shapes, colors etc, every time i smoke. I completely zone out and fall into a trance. But, i don't experience a clear trip like i read from so many. Now i have only tried one product from a close friend. I'm thinking it maybe the spice. I really feel i have the technique down. I don't need a lot to set me off, the most i use is 50mg and i have gotten it down to about 35mg. I could try more, but the last several tries i feel its predictable, same colors, buzzing, shapes. i read so many who have said they see people , aliens, rabbits extra..but not me.
My question, do you experience DMT differently from different sources?
Thanks, love the web site
Simple answer... extract your own spice!
Welcome BTW
Welcome BTW
AgentClaret
Rising Star
ISeeAll, how many times have you used DMT? I'm fairly new with it and found it took me around 8 tries (I don't count a couple of the first aborted attempts cuz we didn't have the right smoking apparatus) to 'break on through'.
If you're still in the single digits, keep trying!
If you're still in the single digits, keep trying!
Dimethyltryptoman
Rising Star
Man, all i have to say is if you are 40 and ate alot of acid at grateful dead shows.
What were you eating man, like Windowpane?
1200mics probably is like shot of whiskey to you my friend. *tips imaginary sombrero*
What i can suggest for you, is ordering some Passionflower. Soak like 250 grams or so of passion flower in some distilled water, with a twist of lemon or orange juice, just like over night in a nice cool place.
Then filter that and boil the fluid down to about a shot.
Then take a toke of Dmt and tell me what happens then. That was one of the most surreal and gorgeous experiences i've ever had in my whole entire fucking life.
You see, i also find myself a wee bit of a hard head, almost 30, i'm ran the gamut for my life time. (i've done too many druqks)
So worrying about some kind of neurotransmitter depletion i ordered this product from Russia called Noopept. It helped me get my brain back into action, or at least so it feels like. Without being an amphetamine.
When i smoke DMT after Noopept 15-20mg is a Breakthrough dose. I don't even need to finish the bowl. It's beautiful. it completely and utterly takes you into a free flowing hyper spatial orbit almost instantly.
What were you eating man, like Windowpane?
1200mics probably is like shot of whiskey to you my friend. *tips imaginary sombrero*
What i can suggest for you, is ordering some Passionflower. Soak like 250 grams or so of passion flower in some distilled water, with a twist of lemon or orange juice, just like over night in a nice cool place.
Then filter that and boil the fluid down to about a shot.
Then take a toke of Dmt and tell me what happens then. That was one of the most surreal and gorgeous experiences i've ever had in my whole entire fucking life.
You see, i also find myself a wee bit of a hard head, almost 30, i'm ran the gamut for my life time. (i've done too many druqks)
So worrying about some kind of neurotransmitter depletion i ordered this product from Russia called Noopept. It helped me get my brain back into action, or at least so it feels like. Without being an amphetamine.
When i smoke DMT after Noopept 15-20mg is a Breakthrough dose. I don't even need to finish the bowl. It's beautiful. it completely and utterly takes you into a free flowing hyper spatial orbit almost instantly.
this is exactly what happens to me, I thought I was the only one!
I used the same brand of naptha for my extractions and now im wondering if that has something to do with it?
I re-x'd using naptha because I couldnt find bestine but my spice looks much cleaner now so hopefully I'll find the courage soon to try again
Is the OP still lurking? I was wondering what ever came of this.
I used the same brand of naptha for my extractions and now im wondering if that has something to do with it?
I re-x'd using naptha because I couldnt find bestine but my spice looks much cleaner now so hopefully I'll find the courage soon to try again
Is the OP still lurking? I was wondering what ever came of this.
I scrolled through this thread and OP is talking about his non polar solvent leaving residue behind. You MUST make sure your chemicals are pure before you attempt an extraction if you are at all concerned about your health. I remember someone saying something about "neon" colored spice in another thread and that may be because of residues from the non polar solvent they used? Spice should NOT be neon colored. Please be careful people!
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