Forcing someone to faint cause DMT release?

[blueskine]

When I was a teen it was "popular" to cause another person to faint by pressing them up against the wall depriving them of oxygen. I did this only once, I was told I was out for a few seconds, but I had a dream like experience that I remembered to feel like 30 mins. I was just remembered this the other day and wondered if this might have cause DMT to be released in the moment the brain thought it was going to die, causing the dream like experience.

Any thoughts?

 

[Infundibulum]

Good ol'e dmt release before you die rumour strikes back!

 

[blueskine]

I know the DMT before you die is still a hypothesis, but this does kind of make you go, hmmm.

 

[SnozzleBerry]

Yea the DMT/death thing does make you go hmmmmmmm, but oxygen deprivation does not equate to death nor, to my knowledge, is it known to stimulate the production of endogenous dmt. I would highly doubt that merely thinking you were going to die (quite different from a NDE) would cause an endogenous dmt rush either, otherwise we'd probably hear a lot more about it.

SB

 

[Nordic]

oh lol yeah I remember doing that, as I regained conciousness I thought I was riding a bicycle, then I realised I was hitting my head against the tree every time I peddled.

 

[blueskine]

Yea the DMT/death thing does make you go hmmmmmmm, but oxygen deprivation does not equate to death nor, to my knowledge, is it known to stimulate the production of endogenous dmt. I would highly doubt that merely thinking you were going to die (quite different from a NDE) would cause an endogenous dmt rush either, otherwise we'd probably hear a lot more about it.

SB

No, I have never heard that it has cause it either. Although, it isn't just that I think I am dying, the body only reacts in the stimulus it is exposed. If the body think it is on the path to death, it may start up a "death sequence."

I guess there really is no way to tell if it is or not, but it would be interesting to test if there is further testing. At least, as far as I know Straussman never induced simulated death. I also believe that DMT production in the pineal gland isn't proven.

 

[Pandora]

Hello,

It is with some reticence that I post this. I am trying to be very careful what I write/say these days due to a psychotic anger break within the past week.

Regardless, some of you know I have experience in the very hardcore adult entertainment (porno) industry involving BDSM (Bondage, Discipline, Sadism & Masochism).

What is being suggested here reminds me of what is loosely referred to as Edge Play in the BDSM scene. One type of Edge Play is called Breath Play or Breath Control.

Even within the well-established, Bay Area, BDSM community, Breath Play is somewhat frowned upon. In public BDSM playspaces (yes, these do exist in some parts of the U.S.) all types of Edge Play, in particular Breath Play are absolutely forbidden.

Now, those who endorse and get off on breath play will often set up the scene with even more agreed-upon safety measures than usual, given that a "safe word" or action might not be possible in an oxygen or consciousness deprivation situation. Thus, they will often joke, "What's a few brain cells between friends - afterall I have billions!" Some of the extra safety precautions they tend to employ include things like having a timer on hand, having a thorough knowledge of first aid and CPR procedures, having oxygen on hand, having additional people on hand and never ever doing any sort of Edge Play scene under any level of intoxication - not even a single beer or toke of schwag reefer - for either the "top" or the "bottom."

Trying to keep all of this and much more in mind I must respectfully post that I feel this is not a great idea. It potentially introduces a level of danger into a DMT session that is not inherently there and does not need to exist.

Thank you for reading & for your consideration. blueskine thank you for this suggestion - meaty food for thought this mornng for me.

Peace & Love,
Pandora

 

[Infundibulum]

I guess there really is no way to tell if it is or not, but it would be interesting to test if there is further testing. At least, as far as I know Straussman never induced simulated death. I also believe that DMT production in the pineal gland isn't proven.

All these are interesting hypotheses but not easilytestable, at least in this society with the current moral rules. By this I mean that you cannot prove something like this in human physiology without having to induce death (or even "simulated death", whatever that means; good luck getting approval for said experiment!) in humans.

Of course in different times where human life may not be valued as highly as today one could test these hypotheses...

 

[prottel]

You can also experience this by sitting down and hyperventilating for ~30 seconds, then quickly getting up. You better have someone to hold you as you most likely will fall down. Some kind of dream activity can be experienced after you faint. Just tried it once, it was an interesting experience. Not sure about how safe it is.

 

[biopsylo]

wow, another trip down memory lane. i remember when my dad found out that a friend, my brother and i were doing this(must have been 12ish), he got really ^&^%%ing mad!

i recall being out for about 10 seconds, and laughing at the person who was out, because they were talking complete jibberish, almost like another language _hmmmmmm.

 

[Nordic]

Lol, TMI, no, the instance I was talking about wasn't like that at all... just a bunch of teen guys trying to be tougher than the next... was more than 2 decades ago

Also it wasn't DMT like at all, if anything, it was like wakeing up from a dream without totaly disengageing the dream for a few seconds...

I don't believe in adding disclaimers to my discourse, but this is probably not a good thing to do if you like your braincells, I was only a child, and had like 3 times the amount of hair I do now.

 

[benzyme]

autoerotic asphyxiation doesn't lead to dmt production in vivo, sorry

 

[LucidLemonade]

autoerotic asphyxiation doesn't lead to dmt production in vivo, sorry

Thats good to hear... I'd hate to think of the TEKS that might appear if that was true.. :lol:

 

[gammagore]

just a bunch of teen guys trying to be tougher than the next...

hehe, sounds like we grew up together

 

[jacetea]

I remember doing this too until I found out how bad for you it is. My friend basically held onto my neck until I fainted. Everything sort of went yellow and I felt like I was floating in water. I was all disoriented and then I suddenly popped out of it thinking "WOA!".

After that I never experienced the water-like feeling, I just passed out and fell over.

Now that I think about it, it does remind of the initial floaty DMT feeling...I don't think the two are related though.

 

[soulfood]

I used to pass out a lot when I was younger due to reasons my GP couldn't be bothered getting to the bottom of. But anyway a nasty ringing in your ears, a fuzzy white light and a bump on the head does not equate to DMT. Also why anyone would want to inflict this on themselves is far beyond me.

Some of you people are very, very strange!

 

[jamie]

This is a weird thread..

Oxygen depreivation does not cause a DMT release..it just makes you pass out and have dreams..that whole DMT and dream connection thing seems like bs to me..DMT is nothing like a dream.

I once passed out from oxygen dep when i was a kid, from frantically blowing up balloons for my birthday party haha..i had a strange dream I was driving over a bridge in teh car with my family..woke up laying on the tile floor with my mother yelling at me..not something id repeat for kicks.

The things people do to get high...

 

[88]

Recently there was a nasty story in the news about facebook groups and stuff on youtube showing kids how to do this to 'get high'... caused, as you might imagine, some uproar. Children in hospital, all that kind of thing. Lots of moral pani. So yeah, this is a bit of a dodgy thread really...

 

[g13juggalo]

I think that would be more along the lines of deprivation.
If you stop eating or drinking you can often see things too.

And just out of curiousity, did you guys do that to make eachother pass out, or so the other could have that experience? Cause you guys seriously need some weed if its the second. 0.0

 

[Sublime]

This is so odd. About a week ago, after smoking DMT, I went to look in the mirror, and was shocked at how weird I looked, being a human and all. I stuck out my tongue slowly, this creeped me out, and an intense feeling shot up my spine and through my brain. You know that feeling that comes quick but you snap out of it because you feel like you are about to pass out? That's what happened. It seemed like the DMT was going through me and I was about to cross over at that moment, but I stopped myself. I believe we will soon find out about the DMT flooding the brain at death, we need to get some volunteers and study this more, because I believe it has something to do with it.