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from rootbark to smokeable spice in 7 hours

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quantumbrujo

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Hi I'd like to share my tek with you guys.Super fast and super good yield as well.I copy and pasted from another forum I had posted it in. OK here's how swim does it inabout 7 hours.we will be doing a 375 gram MHRB extraction here.(which should yield between 3 or 4 grams of spice. 1)chop up the rootbark using a paper guillotine to save time- about 15 minutes 2) pulverize it with a blender bit by bit - about15-20 minutes depending on your blender. While youre doing this you are preheating your crockpot with 2 and a half litres of water(using distilled water is just a way to spend more money,I always use tap water and get good results).So we just spent about half an hour and our water is already hot and our rootbark is already in powder form.before adding the powdered rootbark to the water add vinegar and stir and check PH with digital PH meter it should go as far down as about 3.if it is higher add some more vinegar,stir it up real good and re-check PH.When your PH is around 3 add the rootbark powder and stir the shit out of it.Let it simmer for three hours stirring the shit out of it often.When two and a half hours have passed stop stirring to let the guck settle to the bottom. with the chopping and grinding and simmering we are now at 3 and a half hours.pour the liquid through a cheese cloth into a wide mouthed stainless steel or glass(punch bowl will work) type of container.close up the cloth over the plant matter and sqweeze the shit out of it to get all the juice out.It's very hot so wear dishwashing gloves.whet you feel it too hot even with gloves pass your hands with gloves under running cold water and repeat the sqweezing till it's almost a dry pulp.this takes about 5 minutes.you now have a bowl full of a purplish reddish liquid that looks like cheap red wine.add slowly a saturated solution of lye(NaOH,sodium hydroxide,caustic soda) before I go on I would just like to say that you don't need to filter too much cause your non-polar solvent(naptha) will float anyway and the crud will stay on the bottom.So add the lye very slowly while stirring and check PH add a bit more and check PH it will first turn kind od grey and then black.You wanna get the PH as far up as 13-13.5 not 9-10 like the other teks say.with a PH this high you will get all the DMT and will hardly get emulsions.Once you get the PH to 13.5 you are ready to start pulling DMT freebase with you naptha. I forgot to say that after you emptied the crockpot,wash it and preheat water in it while you are doing the basification .This will be the hot water bath for your extraction bottle.and also in a seperate bottle you should have been heating your naptha almost to boiling point in a water bath as well under fume hut preferably don't smoke.For your extraction bottle try to get a wine bottle that has a long neck.Fill the wine bottle to the bottom of the neck,leave the neck to top off with HOT naptha.About 4 hours went by and we are ready to do our first pull.Make sure that you had the bottle of black liquid in the crockpot hot water and the naptha is HOT.fill the rest of the boittle with the hot naptha and put the cork or screw-on cap and up-end it don't shake for a full 5 minutes.you will see emulsions,but by putting the bottle in the hot water bath and letting it sit your layers should seperate nicely in less that ten minutes.When the layers are seperated nicely use a turkey baster to siphon off the naptha.be carefull not to suck up any of the black liquid,and put in a mason jar.repeat this with the same liquid two more times,and combine all the naptha pulls in the mason jar.You only used part of what you had in the bowl so do this untill you have no more left.In other words your wine bottle only hols a litre and you had twoand a half plus the vinegar plus the lye solution so you shoul have close to three litres of black juice.that means you do the wine bottle thing three times doing three pulls on each one.Leave your mason jar with all the pulls at room temperature with the lid open to evap some of it untill you see it getting cloudy.place it under fume hut and place a fan to get it to evap faster.Once it's cloudy put the lid on the mason jar and put it in the freezer.In two hours you should have most of the DMT pprecipitated out sittingon the bottom.when the naptha goes clear again most of the spice is out.Pour it through a coffee filter and save the naptha in another mason jar.pour chilled ammonia 15-20 ml/gram of spice thru the filter after all the naptha has evaped and the xtals are dry.empty the coffee filter on a plate and spread out the spice to dry it faster and you now have smokable DMT.it will be slightly yellowish so now if you want you can recrystalize using fresh naptha.I'm tired so recrystalization specifics will be posted tommorrow or another day.good luck and see you in hyperspace at the dome on full moons. I edited to say that I stopped counting the time,but all that I mentioned should not take more than 7 hours.When you basify it's a hell of a reaction and you don't need more time to get most of the spice out.If you leave it in the freezer longer you might get a slight bit more ,but nothing worth writing home about.My tek is tried tested and true.If you plan on snorting it you should recrystalize it about three times.I did it 4 times and it doesn't even burn the nose.no hydroxides left. _________________ Back from beyond te event horizon,where time is nothing more than an illusion and nothing is everything
 
hey blackclo thanks for the site, has been very helpful !! wondering, are you adding these most recent teks to the bible under links or are they gonna be stored somewhere else. Also, wouldnt mind seeing a couple of things that i would find helpful, maybe everyone could help generate this. A freq Q&A; primarily for things that might represent unusual anomololies tht could occur during spice generation and i know there are some but a bit more info on recrystl. The info is a little scarce in detail in this area ( or maybe im not looking enough) either way, best thing going in this regard many thanks again for the effort
 
[quote:da6dcab250="Check420"]one of the better tek's ive stumbled across... thank you very much!! a couple questions... does the naptha absolutley have to be hot? is that just to speed up the process? im very paranoid about heating flammable stuff... if its just to make the process faster and i can forego heating the naptha, that would help a scaredy cat like me :p and also, if i skip the crock pot heat bath with the wine jug, can i just let it sit and naturally seperate as said in many other teks? your tek kicks ass, and im not particularly worried about doing it quickly, rather safely. if these two steps i can skip, albiet a slower process, i would love to know.. thank you for your time!![/quote:da6dcab250] Welcome to Nexus Check420.Thanks on the compliment about the 7 hour tek.In the beginning there was a tek that took a month,then they were doing it in a week,then 3 or 4 days,then in 24 hours.and by having done a couple extractions and seeing what goes on and the speed of the reaction.turns black instantly when basified,I said to myself " logically this could be pulled off much quicker" and at the time that I posted my quantumtek in another forum it was the quickest.But now the lazyman's tek came along and it's the way to go man.MHRB doesn't need any defatting so what the fuck?You, if in a rush to reach hyperspace,can go from Rootbark to spice in two hours but three hours is a bit better not to rush things.You can get pre-ground bark so it can go even quicker.Yes you have to basiby to 13.5,and yes you must heat the naptha.DMT is very soluble in hot naptha,but not very soluble in cold naptha,and so so at room temperature.You want it hot so you can grab as much spice as possible and when put in freezer the DMT ain't that soluble any more so the DMT has no choice but to precipitate out of solution and snow in the mason jar forming pretty fluffy white or yellowish a bit crystals.You can put in your naptha with the black juice and heat them together in a crockpot before mixing it around so the non polar comes in contact with as mush solution as possible.Up end , don't shake the shit out of it or you will have an emulsion that won't wanna seperate.\p end for five straight minutes,put back in crockpot till layers seperate and siphon off the non polar layer with turkey baster or some ingeniously improvised sucking apparatus.Hope that helps.good luck and be sure to post results.
 
[quote:343e93961b="Check420"]awesome! thank you man, i do appreciate it much. yours is very easy to read and comprehend for me which helps alot, most other ones seem so complicated to me... thank you much sir![/quote:343e93961b] anytime check420.always a pleasure to help out a fellow psychonaut.
 
Quantum -- thank you for the tek. 250 g of MHRB netted 1.42 grams of very good looking crystals. Effectively a perfect yield! I've re-written the tek as a series of step-by-step instructions broken out into as many discrete steps as possible. It's lengthy, but I can post if people like. One thing that is definitely different, though, is that this took *much* longer than 7 hours. About 9 hours of work were necessary + a wait of 14 hours for the naphtha to evaporate down to become cloudy ... not that I'm complaining :D Just wanted to point out that I think it over-sells the "speed" aspect of the tek. But it's high quality and works well! :)
 
Quantumbrujo,
What does the following quote mean?
"and also in a seperate bottle you should have been heating your naptha almost to boiling point in a water bath as well under fume hut preferably don't smoke."
Do I mix the naptha with water and almost boil, or do I put the naptha in a separate container and then put in the water bath?

Also, what could I use to substitutue for a fume hut?
And do you need to recrystalize the end result in able to smoke it?
Thanks,
-Adam Elmore
 
ahhhhhh, there's nothing quite like the wall of text...it truly is an art form.

I'm not gonna lie, I was interested in reading it but didn't even consider it once I saw the format of the post.
 
SnozzleBerry said:
ahhhhhh, there's nothing quite like the wall of text...it truly is an art form.

I'm not gonna lie, I was interested in reading it but didn't even consider it once I saw the format of the post.

Don't bother, it's nothing new.


This is just an STB with an acid treatment and is almost exactly how SWIM used to do extractions, down to the use of a long-necked wine bottle as a separatory device (SWIM used a traditional chianti bottle). The very few differences are that he used HCl instead of vinegar, he reduced the volume of the naphtha with the dish placed atop a crockpot to steam-heat the bottom (give it a try) in well ventilated area, and he took his time.

SWIM also has some discrepancies with this tek. The use of cheese cloth is incredibly messy and inefficient; a THP-style filter funnel with cotton balls in the neck and a cotton cloth placed atop the cotton balls works much better, in SWIM's experience (cheesecloth is a bit pricey anyway). The use of ammonia to wash precipitated spice is long outdated and even discredited by those who originally recommended it. The currently preferred method of washing is to wash the spice saturated naphtha with a solution of sodium carbonate.

It works, but these methods are quite old and messy. q21q21's limtek using naphtha should be just as fast and much less messy. SWIM would like to see some members try Spiceman's sodium carbonate and cooking oil method.
 
SnozzleBerry said:
ahhhhhh, there's nothing quite like the wall of text...it truly is an art form.

I'm not gonna lie, I was interested in reading it but didn't even consider it once I saw the format of the post.

yes the "RETURN" button was a masterpiece in ingenuity!:lol:
 
amor_fati said:
SnozzleBerry said:
It works, but these methods are quite old and messy. q21q21's limtek using naphtha should be just as fast and much less messy. SWIM would like to see some members try Spiceman's sodium carbonate and cooking oil method.
I've been looking at that with some interest, especially using it for some of the grasses. Once I'm in my new house and have one roommate instead of seven, I'll be getting back into spice extractions and will be playing around with that tek.
 
SnozzleBerry said:
ahhhhhh, there's nothing quite like the wall of text...it truly is an art form.

I'm not gonna lie, I was interested in reading it but didn't even consider it once I saw the format of the post.
Yeah, same here! How hard is it to just use to Enter button here and there? It is a lot easier than to read a wall of text, that is for sure...
 
Ha, just realized that this is an incredibly old thread! This is back from when blackclo was still admin, from the looks of it. And even back from before SWIM was into extractions (mid-2007, before requesting his account be deleted and then re-upping it later, but interesting synchronicity between SWIM's old methods and the tek, here). Wow, how far this community's come in the span of less than three years!

A little embarassed about my snarkiness here, but until inspecting the dates, it seemed this was being presented as something new. The age of the thread would probably account the solid block format and the improper blockquote format, as the forums likely work quite a bit differently now.
 
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