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And I just want to know something that I've been wondering. Why does anyone use an A/B extraction if extracting from MHRB. A STB is so easy and straightforward, not requiring an acid boil. I have even heard that STB yeilds more but I have trouble finding validity in this statement. Can anyone give me a good reason to use STB?
 
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Man, SWIM did STB... and the stuff SWIM ended up with was nasty as hell. You can see this in the picture... The bottom layer is full of the good spice... and the top layer is full of just pure crap. Both layers were in SWIMs STB extract! Try smoking that crap!

So, the picture is of SWIM using the A/B extraction to purify it. SWIM will never do only a STB extraction again... SWIM does STB firstly and then purifies it with A/B. It seems to work out great. It really cleans it up! The smoke is very smooth!
 

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Did SWIY extract from MHRB? Could SWIY verify the age and quality on said bark? Would it be effective for SWIM to extract the spice and if it is very dirty FASA out the DMT and them rebasify it? From SWIY's statement, SWIM takes it that A/B just makes a cleaner extract. But isn't this what a wash and re-xtal is for?
 
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It was MHRB, freshly processed two weeks before from a farm in Mexico. SWIY can try to get a clean XTRACT with just STB but SWIM wasn't able to with multiple tries.... It was always greyish/brownish and a horrible smoke. SWIM tried the sodium carbonate wash to no avail.... Whatever was in the XYLENE stayed in the XYLENE regardless of what SWIM did. The only thing that worked was moving it back into acidic water and then back into FRESH XYLENE.


Try a STB and come back if its not clean =P
 
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Oh, SWIY used xylene, that tells me alot. From what I understand, Xylene will pull ALOT of stuff besides just N,N DMT. Naptha is very good at pulling just the N,N DMT. SWIM's plan is to do 4 naptha pulls, wash em all and do a heptane re-xtal. Then swim will do a xylene pull and FASA the jungle spice out of that and rebasify it.
 
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SWIM did his first extract recently. Yielded WHITE 4.1g shards using marsofold tek and a lb of pre powdered mhrb from 100herbgalaxy :)

SWIM decided after everything frezze precip'd and dried. SWIM scraped up and packed a small 20mg of the white shards and filled the chamber in his pipe completely and held it in, and NO HARSHNESS WHATSOEVER, NO COUGHING, NO NOTHING. And a CRAZY experience for just 20mg i must add! :shock:

And a sidenote: there was NO yellow in the shards SWIM pulled..completely took him by surprise.
 
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In SWIM's opinion, naphtha is such a crappy solvent incapable of pulling the full potentials of the Jurema rootbark, chaliponga, and phalaris species. However this just may be speculative, SWIM continues his A/B extractions with xylene with added FASA to an almost irrefutable prepared smoke.. This really does solve most problems.

Lowering the pH first never hurt an extraction but agreed that it sure doesnt seem to make a difference when salting out the precipitates from basifying first, although most fatty substances present seem to be pulled along with most solvents creating a very crude smoke (No matter how selective?), in SWIM's experience at least.. Which from I understand is why a defatting step is recommended. Take for example as a brew is prepared, a weak acid is only added for reassurance for drinking.
 
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