Well this is the 2nd batch I've ever come across. The first was freebase and I lit up 30mg + or so on several occasions. My body became mush, objects in the world didn't seem so "permanent" anymore, and I was getting intense auditory hallucinations. CEV were also present, but nothing different then a strong marijuana high. A year later I decide to come across on some changa, a 1:1 ratio with B. caapi, and I'm getting the same effects. Why can't I break through? I've yet to even see the kaleidoscope patterns that are often discussed, what am I doing wrong?
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Getting Frustrated (Breaking Trough)
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^^ agreed
how were you smoking the freebase, and the changa, how much of that are you smoking? Im surprised you arent getting much even with changa(which is foolproof to smoke with a bong)
Also somthing that comes to mind, you say that you came across this batch, are you getting it from some dealer? I bet if you extracted it yourself you would get better results.
If all else fails, SMOALK MOAR CHANGA!!
how were you smoking the freebase, and the changa, how much of that are you smoking? Im surprised you arent getting much even with changa(which is foolproof to smoke with a bong)
Also somthing that comes to mind, you say that you came across this batch, are you getting it from some dealer? I bet if you extracted it yourself you would get better results.
If all else fails, SMOALK MOAR CHANGA!!
Yeah sorry I extracted it myself.. painstakingly.
I just grabbed a little chunk of the leaf and threw it in my pipe. I'm using a bic lighter but I can't really afford a torch lighter or a full bong so I'm doing the best I can. Should I crush the leaf to a finer consistency, would that help at all?
I just grabbed a little chunk of the leaf and threw it in my pipe. I'm using a bic lighter but I can't really afford a torch lighter or a full bong so I'm doing the best I can. Should I crush the leaf to a finer consistency, would that help at all?
gammagore said:
For sure
Hold on, you DID extract it yourself?
If that changa is truly 1:1 then i am baffled!
A lungful of changa sends my mind flying, a bic lighter & a pipe should be fine (although vape pipe is preferable)
What did your DMT look like? What extraction tek did you use?
Also, after the last bowl I got frustrated and went to dump it out because it was all ash and some orange oil came out with it, which I assumed was probably the actual dmt. Maybe I was just getting trace amounts of dmt smoke and not fully vaporizing it?
If your doubting your smoking enough then maybe
A small pinch of 1:1 taken in sucessive tokes should definitely cause CEV's in my experience
A small pinch of 1:1 taken in sucessive tokes should definitely cause CEV's in my experience
pfxtc said:
You should have crushed the leaf to smoking consistency before you infused it. This way there is more area for the dmt to infuse into. Did you have much DMT left on the evap dish that you made the changa in?
Also dude, what sort of contraption are you using to smoke it?
And, no need for a torch lighter.
Prolly just some chlorophyl and maybe some spice.
Dude here's what you can do, chop up all the changa to smoking consitency, if you have a scale weight out 1 pile of 50mg changa, and say 3 piles of 75mg changa. Smoke the first 50mg pile(1 slow long pull to fill the lungs) hold it for as long as possible. While holding it in load up one of the 75mg piles ready to smoke next. Hold the second pull like the first, sit back and ..... if you arent where you want to be in say about 1-2min of smoking the bowl, smoke another 75mg pile and so on.
The beauty of caapi is that you can do it this way, no need to stress about tollerance building up. Take your time and smoke it up till you get to where it is you want to be.
Dude here's what you can do, chop up all the changa to smoking consitency, if you have a scale weight out 1 pile of 50mg changa, and say 3 piles of 75mg changa. Smoke the first 50mg pile(1 slow long pull to fill the lungs) hold it for as long as possible. While holding it in load up one of the 75mg piles ready to smoke next. Hold the second pull like the first, sit back and ..... if you arent where you want to be in say about 1-2min of smoking the bowl, smoke another 75mg pile and so on.
The beauty of caapi is that you can do it this way, no need to stress about tollerance building up. Take your time and smoke it up till you get to where it is you want to be.
Also report back afterwards please
Shaolin said:
I always get some chlorophyl when using caapi or chali leaf. ipa/acetone/naptha all pull the chlorophyl IME.
I hope you arent using naptha with green rust inhibitor, I hope mine has none in it:wink:
Here's a pic of some changa and chlorophyl, or rust inhibitor:shock:
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Sounds like bad smoking method or not smoking enough. It took me like 8 tries to breakthrough but even in my first failed attempts I had tons of open eyed visuals.. not comparable to cannabis at all.. more like a handful of mushrooms..