Hi all, I am from South Africa and am lost with regards to finding info on which local plants have a high enough concentration of DMT to make extraction viable.Any questions or problems you may run into during an extraction can be asked to get other members input in this thread.
Hi, welcome!Hi all, I am from South Africa and am lost with regards to finding info on which local plants have a high enough concentration of DMT to make extraction viable.
Any help will be much appreciated.
Hi there - sorry your intro thread got overlooked! How's the search been going?Thanks for having me, im looking to learn more about DMT's and see how it can help me with my health.
As mentioned earlier, no South African trees — that we know of — have significant quantities of DMT. I've checked.Hello howzit.
From SA too. also interested in finding DMT containing trees.
Let me know what you find and Ill do the same.
Hi, welcome.As mentioned earlier, no South African trees — that we know of — have significant quantities of DMT. I've checked.![]()
Astute point, didn't think of that at all.Hi, welcome.
It would be very helpful to have a list of inactive or weakly active acacias, particularly with figures or qualitative descriptions, which could help to save people some trouble.
Of course, it's easy to imagine that any active acacias in SA would remain a closely-guarded secret - and quite understandably so. It would be desirable to avoid the tragedy of reckless over-harvesting that has been seen in Australia.
This all points to cultivation being the most viable way forward, whether acacia, mimosa or some of the aizoaceous species.
Greetings from SA as well! I have tried an extraction from Vachellia sieberiana twice with mixed results. Both yielded miniscule amounts, and I am still working on getting some form of analysis done (either by instrument or diy TLC). I am currently testing extractions on Acacia longifolia and pycnantha. Will update once I am finished.
Sorry, life got in the way of this. Still have the data lined up if no-one's beaten me to it at the delosperma thread.Here's a hint: it's best to start educating yourselves about botanical resources for your region, as well as looking into obtaining seeds for cultivation of active species if at all possible.
Awareness of sustainable harvesting practices is also crucial, since indiscriminate removal of trunk bark or roots will lead to the premature death of the tree. Many species have active phyllodes which sometimes even just drop off the tree for collection.
Additionally, I'll soon be adding a list of Delosperma species in which DMT has been detected.
here is a list of African & middle-eastern Tryptamine Acacias(which will hopefully grow over the next few years..)
A. albida (Ana Tree, Winter Thorn) DMT leaf, bark [2][1]; DMT-like bioassays in Israel [dmt-nexus]
A. giraffae (synon.A. haematoxylon x erioloba) DMT in leaf [5]
A. horrida (Cape Gum, 'Dev-Babul' ) [4]
A. karoo (Sweet Thorn) tryptamines [4]
A. laeta DMT, in the leaf[6]
A. mellifera DMT, in the leaf[4][1]; alkaloid +ve 2 tests [14]; triterpinoids.
A. nilotica (Gum Arabic Tree) DMT, in the leaf[2][4][1] tentative DMT,5meoDMT[10], tryptamine and 'harmane derivatives'[11]
A. nilotica subsp. adstringens reported DMT [4][12]
A. nubica DMT in leaf [9]; synon. with A. oerfota (A. nubica subsp oerfota) - NMT [4]
A. polyacantha DMT in leaf [4][8][9]
A. senegal DMT in bark & leaf [9][2][1][6], NMT, other tryptamines [4] DMT in plant[7]
A. seyal (Red Acacia, holy 'shittim wood' ) DMT [2][1]
A. sieberiana DMT, in the leaf.[6] Ether extracts about 1-7% of the dried leaf mass.[3]
A. tortilis (Umbrella Thorn, also implicated in the Ark of the Covenant) DMT leaf, bark [2]; alkaloid positive [13]
A. xanthophloea ('Fever Tree' ) oral ceremonial & medicinal use (incl. anti-malarial); alkaloids [15]
so that's 14 so far..References:
[1]wiki.magiskamolekyler.org (Swedish)
[2]TIKHAL, Shulgin & Shulgin
[3]Wattle Seed Workshop Proceedings 12 March 2002, Canberra March 2003 RIRDC Publication No 03/024, RIRDC Project No WS012-06
[4]Pharmacuetical Excipients.com =Posted by Niazi in acacia blog
[5] (internal uni. chemistry paper viewed by Nen 1995)
[6]Shaman Australis (either claimed in a thread, or referenced to here elsewhere)
[7] Dr. Duke's Phytochemical and Ethnobotanical Databases
[8] Poland herbarium
[9] Khalil & Elkheir 1975.
[10] Heffter 1996, Trout 1997
[11] Oliver-Bever "Medicinal Plants In Tropical West Africa 1986
[12] Trout 2004
[13] Kubmarawa et al 2007
[14] Lalitha et al. 2010; Rukunga et al 2004.
[15] Nundkumar et al. 2002
..Interestingly, Acacia cyclops is native to Western Australia! Many Australian acacias were planted all over africa (for tannin & timber) and are now naturalized...