Greetings from the Central Coast with a little bit of help in need

[MrHonekyDonkey]

Hi everybody. New member here & I just wanted to let my presence known. I've never tried DMT, but I have tried mushrooms a couple of times. What I like about them is the feeling of knowing & at the same time unknowing if you guys know what I mean. I grew my own mushrooms for a little while & then I heard about DMT & started reading the forums on how to make it. The tek that caught my eye was Earthwalker's ACRB Tek 100g & after reading it a couple of times & making a few notes I tried doing it. Long story short, I failed & I want some help, but since I'm a new member I can't post in his topic. If any wisdom traveler can help me out, that would be much appreciated.

 

[WanderingTraveler]

Hey there -

I'm gonna attempt to answer some of you're questions!
There's a number of reasons things could have gone awry

What are you're concerns?

 

[MrHonekyDonkey]

Thank you kind sir. Well my main problem was that in the Tek theirs a clean up step. I think that's where I start having my problems. When I pour my naphtha pulls into my acidic vinegar & stir it, I don't see any brown fatty liquid that sits animated between the two layers like the Tek describes. I don't know what I'm doing wrong

 

[Firemetal420]

Swim did the same tek and had the same observation... if you did a very good job when decanting I don't think as much of it comes through... just press on with your extraction and you should be fine considering you have good bark and you follow the directions properly... Swim had a 1.19g yield from 100g of acrb and this tek is the best swim has found for getting super clean results... good luck

 

[Firemetal420]

Also its always a good idea to make sure all of your chemicals are of the best purity by looking up its msds... it's never a good idea to settle for anything less than purity for something that will be put into your body

 

[WanderingTraveler]

Well -

In my experience with the mini-ab
there was no brown fatty layer

I believe, that's because you must have had some pretty clean pulls in the first place

When I pull my nap from the mini-ab
it comes out clear
Doesn't start to saturate until you evaporate your solution about half-way

Any other thought?

 

[MrHonekyDonkey]

Thanks you guys for all the feedback. I really appreciate it. My last two concerns are that if its okay to use, used cold naphtha & just heat it up like how it tells me too in the clean up process since that's all I have now. & my last concern is on step 4 of the clean up process.When I put the 200ml of water that contains lye onto my acidic solution it does not turn milky as pictured on the tek.

 

[Firemetal420]

In swims experience so far that seems to be a bad sign... maybe you got some bunk bark because the more white it changes when you add the base seems to denote how much spice is in your solution... sorry for your luck, it seems to be happening more and more these days because of shady people making monetary gains on something that should be held in high regard and respected

 

[MrHonekyDonkey]

Awww don't say that, I don't want to hear that. maybe the quality of the bark isn't that good. I saw a video of a guy who was demonstrating how to make DMT with ACRB & I followed the steps & I got a few white powdery flakes. Is that a good sign that my bark contains DMT or could that just be something else. I did a freeze percepitation with some plastic wrap covering the whatchumccallit to save naphtha if that's any help. I have pictures, but I can't post them right now since I don't got internet at my house at the moment I'm using my phones browser

 

[Tryptallmine]

Maybe you could tell us a little more about your process.

Was the bark shredded or powdered?
Acacia or Mimosa? (if acacia which variety?)
What acid did you use? how much?
Was your NaCl - salt non-iodized?
How long did you acid soak for? Did you put it in a heat bath? How warm/hot?
Do you have access to a pH meter?
Did you use tap water or distilled/De-ionized water?
What is the purity/content of your NaOH (lye)? 98% or lower?
Did you check the pH of your acidification (2-3pH)?
Did you check the pH of your base step? (+12)?
When you based it out did you put that in a heat bath? How long for?

Did you test evaporate your solvent to make sure it evaporates cleanly?
Are you using a solvent that has been used successfully in the past?

Before your cleanup stage was your solvent saturated? Did it cloud up when blown on like disinfectant does when you add water to it?

 

[MrHonekyDonkey]

I used this tek by the brilliant Earthwalker himself :thumb_up: Earthwalker Tek
I am using shredded Acasia (Formosan Koa)
I used about 50-60ml of distilled white 5% acidic vinegar (for both the beginning & clean up process)
Non-Iodized salt
I put it in a heat bath for an hour & a half. I dont know the exact temperature, but the water wasn't boiling
I don't have access to a pH meter sadly
I used filtered drinking water. My parents buy them at the store
I am using 99% pure Lye (at least that's what is says on the label)
I didn't check the pH of my acidification or my base step
I put the base in a heat bath for 2 hours
I didn't test my solvent to see if it evaporated cleanly
I am using naphtha (VM&P Naphtha)
My solvent wasn't saturated

 

[Tryptallmine]

I used this tek by the brilliant Earthwalker himself :thumb_up: Earthwalker Tek
I am using shredded Acasia (Formosan Koa)
I used about 50-60ml of distilled white 5% acidic vinegar (for both the beginning & clean up process)
Non-Iodized salt
I put it in a heat bath for an hour & a half. I dont know the exact temperature, but the water wasn't boiling
I don't have access to a pH meter sadly
I used filtered drinking water. My parents buy them at the store
I am using 99% pure Lye (at least that's what is says on the label)
I didn't check the pH of my acidification or my base step
I put the base in a heat bath for 2 hours
I didn't test my solvent to see if it evaporated cleanly
I am using naphtha (VM&P Naphtha)
My solvent wasn't saturated

Your chemicals look fine. You can pull down those chem pictures if you like. No one's paying us to advertise on the nexus.

How well did you mix your heated naphtha around in your base solution before pulling?

I usually roll the bottle end over end for a minute (stopwatches are good) then put it back in a bath to separate and settle. After 2-5 minutes I repeat that process around 4 times. 1 mix & pull round may take a good 10-15 minutes. 4 pulls can take around an hour.

Was there any emulsion in your cleanup step?

If it failed to cloud adequately when adding lye in the cleanup then It's reasonable to assume that your product was not drawn up in your initial pulls (pre A/B). The other explanation is of course that you have poor quality bark.

If you still have the basic bark solution, you could try adding a little bit more lye (in a separate container - lye to cold water then to your mix). Warming the mix again for another half hour-hour and doing another heated pull. Then check the saturation - reduce the volume by evaporating to half if necessary.

If you get nothing from that, then I'd be pointing the finger at your material.

 

[MrHonekyDonkey]

No, I don't have the bark solution anymore. I'll try & do it again tomorrow & putting all the advice you guys gave me. Do you think I can use cold Naphtha that's been used already for my pulls since that's all I got now?

 

[Tryptallmine]

No, I don't have the bark solution anymore. I'll try & do it again tomorrow & putting all the advice you guys gave me. Do you think I can use cold Naphtha that's been used already for my pulls since that's all I got now?

If you're going to do a run tomorrow try doing what I do. It might not be necessary but its been working great for me. I put my powdered bark into the vessel and acidify it the night before. Let it soak overnight while you sleep. Give it 20% more acid than you did last time.

Give it a few swirls periodically before you head off to bed. Wake up the next day and agitate it again. Then start like you normally would. Putting your acidified mix into a heat bath for 1.5 hours, agitating.

On your base step, maybe consider putting in 60-65g of NaOH instead of 50. Just let it cool down before you add it into the mix or you'll end up with a piping hot glass vessel that may crack/break from excessive heat.

As for the naphtha, as long as its not saturated already it should still hold alkaloids.
Use warm naphtha for your pulls.

Get a little pot and a shot glass or two. Warm the water up to near boiling then remove ANY source of flame. Do not even consider having solvent in the same room as an open flame. I made that mistake once and once only. Always have a fire blanket near by.

Put your shot glass' of solvent into the heat bath until its bubbling or hot, then put it into your soup and mix. Warm solvent tends to do better from my experience.

 

[MrHonekyDonkey]

Alright. Thanks for the help. I'll try it as done as I get the time

 

[Tryptallmine]

Alright. Thanks for the help. I'll try it as done as I get the time

The only other thing I've been doing is leaving my based stage for 3 full hours. 2.5 in the bath, last half an hour I'll remove it from the bath if its still hot. If it's cooled significantly then i'll just leave it there.

That extra hour for me has been yielding more end product.

 

[MrHonekyDonkey]

Thanks for all your help. I'll be sure to follow your steps so hopefully I can get a good yield