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dreamer042 said:
So you smoked on the wellbutrin, that happens pretty often actually, but generally people don't end up getting knockout doses of Haloperidol when it happens, so I'm curious what else was going (or what doses were involved) that precipitated this experience?

Haloperidol has a pretty long half-life. You said it's been some days already, so you should be over the peak of it. Of course adding all these other compounds is not helping and likely contributes to compounding the negative effects. Please immediately discontinue use of harmalas, this is very dangerous and could land you right back in the hospital. There is no point in taking the psychedelics, since the Haloperidol blocks them anyway. The cannabis shouldn't be too much of a problem, but you mentioned it's not working anyway, so probably no point in using it right now.

Give it some time, let the substances leave your system. Maybe try picking up the cannabis again in a few days if you absolutely must use a psychoactive, but you'd be better off skipping it and focusing on the healthy living suggestions others have given you. Which incidentally are much healthier and more effective ways to address depression than popping pills.
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I have a history of PTSD and chronic depression, never been committed before that and have no history of psychosis other than the time I was prescribed lorazepam for a full one day, in the hospital with that on my record I was still given multiple doses of lorazepam intramuscularly before and after the Hadol, like I said the initial 20mg had me very sedated and called my wife; they cut the call and refused me access to the phone, restrained me and continued to inject me until I passed out. That accounts for 15 injections and leaves 6 unaccounted for. Doesn't help that they began lying to my wife saying that I was enjoying myself and talking to people, I am very introverted and was was unconscious at the time she called. That is when she brought in a friend who is a well respected authority within the psychology community. After he called them I was released on the spot. Their intention was to switch me to involuntary for 6 weeks to 3 months after I had myself driven there and voluntarily committed myself for observation. Again I was simply seeking 24 hours of observation until the interaction had ended.
Doses:
Nicotine 3-6mg/day
Cannabis as needed
Alprazolam 2mg sublingually to counter the anxiety of the reaction
Lorazepam 0.5mg after I was told that it was lomotrigine, then 8mg IM
Haldol 20mg IM, heavily sedated called my wife and was then restrained and give 8 more 20mg injections.
Diphenhydramine 700mg IM
And an additional 6 injections that I was unconscious for, assuming haldol or DPH for the IM and no idea about the IV.
 
As for the tobacco I was wrong, the harmine isn't what is helping though high doses of Haldol are not MAOI but MAO agonists. The tobacco does help to metabolize the Haldol more quickly than not smoking and does provide temporary relief, in my previous posts I have provided a number of sources demonstrating this. Also any under the impression that I have been taking Haldol long term, I have not, I have only been given it on one occasion. Also I was mistaken mescaline will have no effect, ergoline alkaloids however can assist in normalizing receptor function.
 
As a pre-med student,

The BIGGEST thing you can do for yourself right now is AEROBIC EXERCISE. At least 30 minutes of intense heart-rate-elevating full exhaustion aerobics.

Combined with complete abstinence from all substances.

Are you currently drinking caffeine? Any caffeine at all, even green or white tea, will make this worse.

Nicotine will make it worse too, it is a stimulant. It can help some in long-term schizophrenics but not acute phases of psychosis, it will potentiate it.

Cannabis will absolutely make things worse... THC precisely... Luckily you said it didn't work for you, so that is good.

I am on board with taking NO DRUGS to let this clear out...

There are a few over the counter things (herbs, supplements) which MIGHT help after you clear your system out for a few weeks... if you still need something by then...

If you can get it, taking pure CBD (with absolutely NO thc) could help, it is a very effective and potent anti-psychotic and relaxant.
 
I do not have issues with psychosis, I have only ever been psychotic twice and both were medication induced on low doses. I agree with temporarily withdrawing from psychoactives, not saying that is a bad idea. I am currently using CBD isolate from my local dispensary, it helps to a very limited extent as my problem now is that Haldol has effectively shut all my serotonin and dopamine receptors.
 
Dude, Haldol effects your whole dopamine and serotonin system....

Nothing you take will help you feel better, the Haldol won't allow it.

Anything you take may also react with the Haldol to make you feel even worse.

Again, this includes even Caffeine, which works on the dopamine system. Nicotine too.

Ride it out brotha...

Good news is, you should be progressively better each day and it won't be long before it is out of your system, it won't be that bad.

STAY ACTIVE and make sure to do 30 minutes intense aerobic exercise daily!


This will help you more than anything...
 
Caffeine has no contraindications with haldol, caffeine is used with muscarinic antagonists to treat haloperidol induced catalepsy at 3mg/kg.
 
I believe I am now past the peak experience, for the last couple of hours I have begun to feel a bit better so it's all downhill from here. Definitely never want Haldol again, this is literally the most miserable I have ever been.
 
There is a lot here that doesn't really add up.

Plenty of people smoke on bupropion and they don't end up having psychotic episodes. Even if you were taking pure nicotine the wellbutrin should have merely blocked the effects, not precipitated the the symptoms you report.

It's not very common for medical professionals to inject you with powerful (and generally archaic and out of favor) antipsychotics over and over and over again, particularly if you are already calmed and sedated/unconscious. That's pushing malpractice, and while it's possible. That sounds really really fishy to me.

At best we aren't getting the whole story, at worst this is pure fiction. Probably time to stop feeding the troll.
 
I am not a troll and I am telling you the whole story, I was traumatized by what happened. I wish I could show you what happened and if they comply with my requests and provide me with a complete chart I will provide all that. I am closely working with an internationally respected behavioural scientist and psychologist to figure out what to do in this situation. I was shocked by the treatment, members of the local medical board are also investigating this and are disgusted with the treatment of myself and other patients. I came to the nexus seeking advice and I mean no harm by posting any studies showing that tobacco is beneficial in the case of Haldol, I have gotten a lot of stop the smoking which currently tobacco is the only psychoactive I have consumed in 24+ hours, exercise that's great if I didn't already do that. I am well aware that I am stuck with this haldol for the next couple weeks and I just wanted advice to help get me through this miserable time. You are free to believe I am a troll, I wish I was.
 
If I had expected this kind of treatment at the crisis unit I was at I would have just taken the olanzapine I was given as an emergency trip killer, then at least it's half life is shorter and I could have taken it orally and wouldn't have felt as slow for the past 5 days.
 
First of all I think it goes without saying that you should lay off the drugs; the number and diversity of drugs you have listed would give Michael Jackson's doctor a run for his money.

Secondly, I've taken bupropion for a few weeks while I was incarcerated and it formed some psychotic symptoms however this took a week to begin, minimally, and ramped up from there until I cut it off.

Thirdly your story is a bit incoherent and bubbling like a brook but obviously you have some idea of what's going on even if you're to haldoled to write it out; luckily I've never taken that stuff but it sounds like its pretty serious. Maybe hold off a bit on everything that you don't need..

Also did you consider that some of the possible IM injection sites might in fact be bruises from being restrained?

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spractral said:
First of i think it goes without saying that you should lay off the druvs; the number and diversity of drugs you have listed would give Michael Jackson's doctor a run for his money.

Secondly I've taken bupropion for a few weeks while I was incarcerated and it formed some kind of psychotic symptoms however this took a week to begin, minimally, and ramped up from there until i cut it off.

Thirdly your story is incoherent and bubbling like a brook but obviously you have some idea of what's going on even if you're to haldoled to write it out; luckily I've never taken that stuff but it sounds like its pretty serious. Maybe hold off a bit on everything that you don't need..

Also did you considered that some of the possible IM injection sites might in fact be bruises from being restrained?
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Now that is a possibility but considering how pushy they were for different drugs while I was conscious such as effexor, lorazepam, pregablin(which I don't understand I don't have any chronic pain) etc. I'm not sure I believe that especially when I saw them using a 5-6 inch long syringe full of amber liquid nine times, and that is definitely haloperidol decanoate.
 
You don't understand why they would want to give you pregablin; because everything else they did made sense?

I dont know man, THAT doesn't make sense...
 
Is it possible that this is a result of my psychosis, yes I cannot deny the possibility however I can say that I have evidence that there is one corrupt doctor at this clinic and I just happened to pick the day he was on shift, I know several of several other people who have faced malpractice at this clinic but I had to dig a bit to find that and it always seems to involve the same group of individuals who evidently don't like being locked in a room with patients. What I believe they were doing was trying to make sure I was staying down until the shift change, nearly every patient there was in a similar state.
 
spractral said:
You don't understand why they would want to give you pregablin; because everything else they did made sense?

I dont know man, THAT doesn't make sense...
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No I mean why is a crisis stabilization clinic pushing a drug for pain, nothing they did made sense and the doctor seemed to be enjoying himself. If anything comes of this I will definitely provide his information so that you can avoid him. I'm just reluctant to start using names on a site involving DMT, I'd hate for anyone involved to have their reputation tarnished before a full investigation, maybe they had a reason for that I have heard of people receiving up to 200mg of haldol in rare circumstances and perhaps I fell into one of those, the DPH makes perfect sense as you need to administer haldol with an anticholinergic drug 700mg is a reasonable dose there. The issue truly is in how I was treated more than in the drugs I was given I'm just dealing with the incredibly negative after effects of Haldol. I have quit all substances because they don't work so why take them? For me the issue lies in some of their abusive remarks and refusal to provide answers in addition to telling obvious lies to my wife. As for the Haldol it was great when I was psychotic definitely deserves its place on the WHO's list of essential medicines, but afterwards it is hell.
 
I seriously just wanted help, you don't have to believe this but there are many other recent reviews about this place being a nightmare facility and having experiences remarkably similar to mine, their policy seems to be drug and forget.
 
Yes in low doses Haloperidol does exhibit MAOI activity, however at high doses it is an MAO agonist
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There's no such thing as a "MAO agonist". MAO is a metabolic enzyme, not a neuroreceptor. Or are you suggesting haloperidol induces MAO (increases its production)?

Sounds like that "hospital" was trying to deliberately screw you over in order to prolong your stay and milk your insurance/present you with a hefty bill. That is malpractice. Seek legal advice. (I just hope you have more luck with lawyers than doctors. Hmmm...)

The thing with attempting to treat drug symptoms with more drugs is that the body has a range of enzymes for breaking down substances in the body, particularly the Cytochrome P450 oxidase family (CYP). Adding more substances tends to keep these enzymes busy so everything ends up being eliminated more slowly. Haloperidol is cleared by CYP3A4 oxidation so it's particularly important to avoid grapefruit and any other products that inhibit this enzyme.

Good luck with sorting all this out.
 
downwardsfromzero said:
Yes in low doses Haloperidol does exhibit MAOI activity, however at high doses it is an MAO agonist
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There's no such thing as a "MAO agonist". MAO is a metabolic enzyme, not a neuroreceptor. Or are you suggesting haloperidol induces MAO (increases its production)?

Sounds like that "hospital" was trying to deliberately screw you over in order to prolong your stay and milk your insurance/present you with a hefty bill. That is malpractice. Seek legal advice. (I just hope you have more luck with lawyers than doctors. Hmmm...)

The thing with attempting to treat drug symptoms with more drugs is that the body has a range of enzymes for breaking down substances in the body, particularly the Cytochrome P450 oxidase family (CYP). Adding more substances tends to keep these enzymes busy so everything ends up being eliminated more slowly. Haloperidol is cleared by CYP3A4 oxidation so it's particular important to avoid grapefruit and any other products that inhibit this enzyme.

Good luck with sorting all this out.
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Yeah the first bit was a misunderstanding because my wife was working while also searching medline, she didn't explain things well and you are correct. Thank for the this very helpful answer.
 
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