Research Haphazard Oral Administration Thread (Salvine Tek)

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For the therapeutic angle, what about "Salvicine"? Sounds both like a medicine and like "medicine", and could be considered to come from SALVIa and CholINE.

There's a DMT "Lextek", so it would be better to avoid that name.

Of the other ones, I like "Salvine" and "SaLEX". Although "SaLEX" would be pronounced similarly to "salix", which means willow tree in Latin.

I should mention that the name "divinorum" for Salvia divinorum is incorrect Latin, it should have been "divinatorum". You can read Hoffman talk about that here.

"Pastora" means shepherdess in Spanish, but that's not necessarily a problem.

 

[stuartroelke]

I should mention that the name "divinorum" for Salvia divinorum is incorrect Latin, it should have been "divinatorum". You can read Hoffman talk about that here.

Excellent reading material! Thank you for this.

I will avoid “LEX Tek,” and Salvicine is apparently a different compound derived from a plant.

Only documentation I could find about “Salvine” is that folks occasionally misspell “Salvia” or “salvinorin” with “salvine,” and that it is no longer a common name in Italy or France.

 

[stuartroelke]

I've posted a new version under the name "SALVINE TEK" / "Salvine" because folks who have had vertigo were apprehensive about taking a substance of the same name. Additionally, I'm trying to make it more approachable when recommended by a facilitator / guide to a journeyer.

There are additional updates as well, so please read through again if you are contemplating taking Salvine.

 

[Traged]

off topic, why do salvia leaves start to dry/blacken at the edge and then fall off?

 

[stuartroelke]

off topic, why do salvia leaves start to dry/blacken at the edge and then fall off?

Likely needs more humidity and/or less airflow. Too much humidity and too little airflow will cause the leaves to rot, though.

 

[stuartroelke]

Somehow I had never watched this video—a huge deal if true. I mentioned in Salvine Tek that naloxone likely wouldn’t work, but here is someone saying (within the first few minutes of a presentation) that it did prevent salvia trips in human trials. Therefore, this is the next thing I will be testing. Could mean that Salvine is the first long-duration psychedelic that is also reversible with an over-the-counter drug.

 

[stuartroelke]

Unfortunately naloxone (Narcan) does not work to end a Salvine trip. Therefore, it is especially crucial that folks do not try this tek with heroic doses of extract.

Getting "Narcanned" was also not pleasant; bitter, burning medicine dripping down the back of my throat during a salvia experience made for a uniquely uncomfortable afternoon. It was worth it to finally get an answer to that age-old question, though.

 

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Unfortunately naloxone (Narcan) does not work to end a Salvine trip

Thank you for experimenting and reporting! This may be valuable anecdotal information for the people who research the pharmacology of salvia.

 

[TheGreenPhantom]

@stuartroelke Have you tried your tek with coleus blumei? (I've read that it has similar compounds to "Sally.")

 

[stuartroelke]

@stuartroelke Have you tried your tek with coleus blumei? (I've read that it has similar compounds to "Sally.")

Great minds think alike! I started growing Coleus scutellarioides (new name for it) as soon as the tek worked. It’ll be a bit before I can make 4g of dried and powdered Coleus leaf “matcha”—I’m not even sure if the cultivar I picked up would still have any of the active compounds due to multiple centuries of aesthetic breeding.

If 4g doesn’t work, I’ll scale up to 8g, then 12g, then I might try incorporating into Salvine in the off chance that the experience is positively altered.

I haven’t gotten nauseous yet, but I’d imagine ~20g of leaf powder might get me there? I’m currently afraid of using much more than 8g of Salvia divinorum powder with Salvine—it can get pretty intense.