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Has anybody heard of AL-LAD? its an LSD-RC
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I planned to during my last session, but was so blown away that it didn't come to fruition. Can't find any reports on it though. I have a feeling it would be quite special.
Did find a report of 1.2mgwhile searching for it though.
Did find a report of 1.2mgwhile searching for it though.
Serious doubts there.Purges said:
I buy my hoodies XL to fit and 190 µg hit me off-guard. Like on the floor ... x_X
Don't think you are prepared, unless you have a huge tolerance. / typing this while coming down.
How so? That was on our first experience with it, so no tolerance. We hadn't ingested any other psychedelics of any kind besides cannabis (if that counts) for quite some time, over a month. On our 2nd experience she took 300u and was taken aback at how much stronger it was, so it seems the dose response varies from person to person. 300u was comfortable and fun for me.
Maybe you are a cheap date? I would be interested to hear the range of effects you experienced. Was the dissociation particularly pronounced at that dose? If you are experienced with LSD, how did the visual content and ego melting compare?
one of the reasons we dosed higher was that time is a factor and we don't have loads of it to be testing low doses of long acting stuff.
As always YMMV, I don't want to encourage people to get out of their depth. It is very powerful molecule and should be respected as such.
Maybe you are a cheap date?
I would be interested to hear the range of effects you experienced. Was the dissociation particularly pronounced at that dose? If you are experienced with LSD, how did the visual content and ego melting compare?one of the reasons we dosed higher was that time is a factor and we don't have loads of it to be testing low doses of long acting stuff.
As always YMMV, I don't want to encourage people to get out of their depth. It is very powerful molecule and should be respected as such.
Mhh.. I'm more like a curious pumpkin. Dissociation was slightly present - looking in the mirror around the 4th hour and seeing a generic person with blanked out eyes. Walking was feasible.Purges said:Maybe you are a cheap date?
Experience with LSD is 0 except a bunk ticket, however psychedelic experience of 15 years. At 190µg this stuff is fully visually & mentally psychedelic. Not very different from a good dose of 25INbome or Shrooms.
Yes indeed. Nobody should think that a tiny woman and a tiny tasteless paper is a reason to do this stuff casually.Purges said:
Let me rephrase this: once your on it, the space is very familiar, yet it is so strange and rather unpleasant. Still laughter and some fun, but in the end annoying. Imo.
Verdict of the the 3 blots I had:
Healing: 0 (like a huge overdose of candy... still food, but you're feeling sick)
Psychedelic vision: yes, probably the best part
Mental headspace: very much so
Will I manifest more blots in my present? Nope.
Addendum: I took this stuff ~16-17 h ago and the body still feels the substance, I wouldn't say I'm back to baseline.
Haha, I know that feeling. But 75-100µg is rather harmless.steppa said:
3rdI
veni, vidi, spici
i ate 150 mics the friday before last and not much happened, some visual distortion and some low level ecstasy type feelings emerged. that was about it.
On friday me and 2 friends tried 300mics each, followed by a tab of acid. we had a hardhead, a normal and a slightly sensitive person. We all ate 300mics each then sat about talking smoking weed and a couple of beers each, 2 max.
hardhead effects were not much different than 150mics just a bit more intense, nothing special, bit dissapointing.
Normal was pretty well effected, kept it together but was convinced that him and my mate had been seperated at birth, delusional but ok is how i would have described him.
sensitive was trollied, needed to be looked after, didnt loose it but needed a sitter to keep him calm, lots of delusions of inpending doom, could have gone much worse without someone to keep him straight.
both normal and sensitive have millage with ketamine and both likened it to that. LAD holes were experienced, normal said it was a slow drift into the hole, he said it crept up in waves untill you drowned in it. There was lots stuttering of speech.
this substance seemed to have tinges of other things (acid/E/ket) and felt familiar but i think it had a sinister side. It wasnt what id hoped for, i was hoping for a similar experience to acid but thats not what it seemed like to me, and im not interested in delving deeper if it is only going to produce delusions and dissotiative effects, thats not my bag.
However Normal said he loved it and would do it again, i wouldnt.
I would advise a sitter.
On friday me and 2 friends tried 300mics each, followed by a tab of acid. we had a hardhead, a normal and a slightly sensitive person. We all ate 300mics each then sat about talking smoking weed and a couple of beers each, 2 max.
hardhead effects were not much different than 150mics just a bit more intense, nothing special, bit dissapointing.
Normal was pretty well effected, kept it together but was convinced that him and my mate had been seperated at birth, delusional but ok is how i would have described him.
sensitive was trollied, needed to be looked after, didnt loose it but needed a sitter to keep him calm, lots of delusions of inpending doom, could have gone much worse without someone to keep him straight.
both normal and sensitive have millage with ketamine and both likened it to that. LAD holes were experienced, normal said it was a slow drift into the hole, he said it crept up in waves untill you drowned in it. There was lots stuttering of speech.
this substance seemed to have tinges of other things (acid/E/ket) and felt familiar but i think it had a sinister side. It wasnt what id hoped for, i was hoping for a similar experience to acid but thats not what it seemed like to me, and im not interested in delving deeper if it is only going to produce delusions and dissotiative effects, thats not my bag.
However Normal said he loved it and would do it again, i wouldnt.
I would advise a sitter.
steppa
Rising Star
Ufostrahlen said:
So...I tried AL-LAD three days ago.
It was a friday and I had a day off from work. I was in a good mood and decided that this was the day to go. I never took LSD or AL-LAD before.
As usual I got up early arround 7am, drank some coffe, becoming awake. Checking my mindset, smoking some canabis. That was my breakfast. :d
Checking my mindset again. Then I was good to go.
My wife was there too and a good friend of mine, who came over that early because we wanted to wait together for the postman, delivering a Playstation 4 to my door. *gg*
I took a half blotter (75µg) at 9:44 am and waited for something to happen. I wanted to feel how the feeling...feels, before going for a higher dosage.
First effects were felt pretty quick...20 or 30 minutes in. Nothing serious. Just a slight change in perception. My mood lifted significantly and at about 10:30 I took another quarter blotter which sums up the ammount AL-LAD taken to something arround 110µg - 115µg.
At 11:00 I felt pretty loaded and very happy. There was a wobbly, rushy body feeling. At this point I thought I should really try this on the dancefloor. I was as stimulated as if I had taken some MDMA. Music sounded great, movind to it was great.
Meanwhile another friend joined our waiting for the PS4 and I got behind my synthersizers...turning up the volume more and more....WOOOOOOOW! That was fun!
Making music went awesomely well, at least for a while until I drifted a bit too much away behind the knobs and switches and the sound became a bit to distorted for the taste of my friends. To me...it sounded great. *g*
Then I reached the peak between 12:00 and 13:15.
Things got a little more serious here. While the prior visuals just were a little more then advanced pattern recognition and massive flickering of my entire visual field, they shifted up a gear now.
While things were going forward, pure canabis was smoked a few times during the trip through a bong.
I was sitting on the sofa, listing to my friends talking. I had a recent tooth extraction which wasn't fully healed to this time. The still slightly swollen tooth gap bothered me on my trip and I became pretty silent and introvert. While my thoughts circled arround the tooth gap, the slight pain it produced etc. I looked at my friends and the image became more and more distorted. The changed their size...became huuuge and somewhat rounded. That was pretty impressive. Then I closed my eyes and checked for CEVs.
I took a while..about a minute or so till they emerged. The were interesting but far from those DMT produces. The were geometric. Colored lines and squares and such...looking pretty electric.
At about 13:30 things cleared up again and I wasn't a buisy with myself as the last half hour before. Then the door bell rang...
..the postman, we have been waiting for. *g*
I was able to interact with him without problems or paranioa, although my pupils must still have been as huge as a saucers. He didn't notice anything.
The trip faded slowly from there, as we tried out the new console...far cry 4 was still very impressive.
At arround 14:30 till 15:00 I was fully back to baseline. No hangover. Not much exhausted.
I had a good time and will try the same dose again.
Thanks for reading. :thumb_up:
Interesting reports, thanks for sharing. I too found that it would take you on meandering trails, leading one to believe in utter nonsense for a time. For a while on my 450u experience I was convinced that we had agreed, non verbally, that our guest for the weekend was going to move in with us, and that the confused look on Mrs.Ps face was her trying to work out the dynamic of our new arrangement. I felt like there was a kind of discourse going on between the 3 of us, which was not actually happening. I found meditating helped to steer me away from these odd spirals.
The lad-hole was very enjoyable space for me, but I can see how others may not like that. I will often take a small amount of ketamine while on LSD to produce a similar-ish effect.
The music you choose will have a profound effect on the experience. One particularly weird tipper mix had to be turned off.
Cats are amazing on this stuff.
The lad-hole was very enjoyable space for me, but I can see how others may not like that. I will often take a small amount of ketamine while on LSD to produce a similar-ish effect.
The music you choose will have a profound effect on the experience. One particularly weird tipper mix had to be turned off.
Cats are amazing on this stuff.
Sounds to me like you had a great time!steppa said:
I guess the material isn't really to blame, it's the user. Personally, I have the feeling that I have reached the limit for psychedelic adventures. To me the experience is just a copy of a copy of a copy. Nothing new happens (even with new materials) and the postulated meta programming circuit never really appeared in 15 years. It's probably time for me to move on.
I watched 'the substance' the other night which really piqued an interest in LSD, the thing is even if i did have LSD i probably wouldn't trust that it's the real deal, doing some reading i came across this analog AL-LAD being mentioned quite a few times. I've now read a few trip reports and it's a very interesting substance, lots of people say it's like very visual euphoric clean LSD that lasts less than 12 hours.
I tend to stick to mushrooms and the occasional hit of DMT but i would definitely like to try LSD one more time, i wonder if AL-LAD is a reasonable substitute for the therapeutic benefits of LSD?
I tend to stick to mushrooms and the occasional hit of DMT but i would definitely like to try LSD one more time, i wonder if AL-LAD is a reasonable substitute for the therapeutic benefits of LSD?
Rrryan
Rising Star
I took one hit of AL-LAD and it affected me terribly.
Grain of salt - I did a ton of psychedelics and RCs in particular about 10 years ago. I was spinning out of my mind, having a pretty radical time, and did have a couple freak outs. But I was always ok in the end.
Long break, took some acid and had a little changa last year. Great time.
Bit later, I had a hit of AL-LAD. Amazing at first. Felt like LSD ayahuasca - rich. Then I bad a panic attack, which I'm not really prone to. Then I kept having thoughts like "what if I freak out and harm myself?" For hours. And then that kept going when I was sober.
I don't know if LA-LAD 'broke my brain' or if I was just on the edge anyways, but a year later I still need lithium, which I was prescribed a few months after this experience, or else I have the ...terrible thoughts that I absolutely do not want but are there.
So all in all...worst thing ever for me.
Not recommended.
Grain of salt - I did a ton of psychedelics and RCs in particular about 10 years ago. I was spinning out of my mind, having a pretty radical time, and did have a couple freak outs. But I was always ok in the end.
Long break, took some acid and had a little changa last year. Great time.
Bit later, I had a hit of AL-LAD. Amazing at first. Felt like LSD ayahuasca - rich. Then I bad a panic attack, which I'm not really prone to. Then I kept having thoughts like "what if I freak out and harm myself?" For hours. And then that kept going when I was sober.
I don't know if LA-LAD 'broke my brain' or if I was just on the edge anyways, but a year later I still need lithium, which I was prescribed a few months after this experience, or else I have the ...terrible thoughts that I absolutely do not want but are there.
So all in all...worst thing ever for me.
Not recommended.
3rdI
veni, vidi, spici
i dont think its like acid, i love acid, i dont love LAD, to delusional for me and it seemed like it could have gone very very wrong.Chronic said:
IMO unless your a hardhead dont start with 450, i had 2 friends go pretty sideways on 300, it would have been very unpleasant if they had been given 450.
tread with care
Thanks for the heads up, i may just start with one tab and work my way up.
I've read a lot of trip reports and there are some negative experiences but not anymore than mushrooms or LSD, if anything it leans more towards positive experiences in comparison. I've come across quite a few people that are saying 300ug+ is the dose for the typical 'psychedelic experience' and less can be neither here nor there.
Can you describe how you think it was delusional? I have read a few times about meaningless trains of thought, but that can be a good challenge for a psychedelic to present.
Edit!
AL LAD will be banned from 7th January 2015 in the UK
I've read a lot of trip reports and there are some negative experiences but not anymore than mushrooms or LSD, if anything it leans more towards positive experiences in comparison. I've come across quite a few people that are saying 300ug+ is the dose for the typical 'psychedelic experience' and less can be neither here nor there.
Can you describe how you think it was delusional? I have read a few times about meaningless trains of thought, but that can be a good challenge for a psychedelic to present.
Edit!
AL LAD will be banned from 7th January 2015 in the UK
It is something very special indeed, i appreciate your input on it as you have so much previous experience with LSD
3rdI
veni, vidi, spici
there was 3 of us and friend 1 got to the point where he thought that friend 2 was his brother, there was no convincing him otherwise, he spent the rest of the evening trying to deal with the fact that all of his family had been lying to him about his history and he was 100% certain that his family wasnt his family. Even the next day he said he had feelings that his family wernt his family.Chronic said:
Friend 1 has a potential child from a relationship in his distant past, as well as thinking friend 2 was his brother he also simultaneously thought that friend 2 was his son from that relationship, even though friend 2 is older than friend 1, and that the whole world new this and that it was just him that had to come to terms with it.
personally i had no delusion from 300mics.
Wow now that is some delusion! Would certainly make me think twice about this being 'the perfect introduction psych' as many have claimed, at least at 300ug.
I found 150ug to be very pleasant, i loved the slow onset, it came on in subsequently larger waves for hours, so at a very comfortable pace, there was a constant joy throughout, i kept thinking 'this is nice, but this is it' then it would surprise me and subtly creep higher, the CEV's i caught at the peak were incredible, i also felt very functional and articulate throughout like i could've been anywhere with a psychedelic mindstate at hand.
I had my doubts about it being deep enough but during the peak of the peak all doubts disappeared, only when i compare it to psilocybin do i find many faults with it as i felt it lacked the psychological insights of a similar dose of psilo and had some slight head fog. I will still push on and see what this substance is really like, so far it seems like a great psychedelic but might be lacking something. This perception of a 'lack' may actually turn out to be a very good thing as all i have to compare it to are my current experiences, if this was exactly like other psychedelics i have available there would be no use for it.
I found 150ug to be very pleasant, i loved the slow onset, it came on in subsequently larger waves for hours, so at a very comfortable pace, there was a constant joy throughout, i kept thinking 'this is nice, but this is it' then it would surprise me and subtly creep higher, the CEV's i caught at the peak were incredible, i also felt very functional and articulate throughout like i could've been anywhere with a psychedelic mindstate at hand.
I had my doubts about it being deep enough but during the peak of the peak all doubts disappeared, only when i compare it to psilocybin do i find many faults with it as i felt it lacked the psychological insights of a similar dose of psilo and had some slight head fog. I will still push on and see what this substance is really like, so far it seems like a great psychedelic but might be lacking something. This perception of a 'lack' may actually turn out to be a very good thing as all i have to compare it to are my current experiences, if this was exactly like other psychedelics i have available there would be no use for it.
3rdI said:
I wonder if the outcome of this would have been different had there not been any acid involved. From personal experience, mixing drugs while not fully familiar with the range of effects can lead to some difficulty. I have certainly witnessed something very similar to your experience with LSD combos. That said, anything dissociative can do odd things to ones rational thinking.