Warning
This report is for informational purposes only. Both 4-ho-mipt (miprocin) and 4-ho-met (metocin) are relatively unknown psychedelic tryptamines. Vaping is an untested and potentially unsafe route of administration. There is no toxicological data on pyrolysis products, long term health effects, or safe thresholds for vaporized 4-ho compounds. Proceed only if you are fully aware of the risks.
1. Background
A few months ago I was wondering whether miprocin and metocin could be dissolved in propylene glycol for use in a vape. 4-AcO-DMT/4-HO-MET Fumarate water solubility I had been thinking about it but hadn’t seen any real data, so I decided to test it myself. Over the past few months I’ve been experimenting with solubility, visual stability, and subjective effects using small stick-style vape device.
2. Materials
3. Observations
Solubility and appearance
Both compounds dissolved easily in propylene glycol with a little heat. The solutions stayed clear and stable at room temperature pH is neutral is slight acidic.
Vape effects
Both where tested in a small vape with new coil, in low doses.
4. Dosage advice
At 75mg per mL, multiple pulls were needed to reach a threshold effects. For more practical use, especially in small travel-sized vapes, I would recommend going up to 130 or even 150 mg per mL. Of course, start low and work up slowly, effects tend to build a bit slower as compared to DMT, plus vaporized dosing is much harder to dose accurately than oral.
5. Final thoughts
This method works. Both compounds are active and seem relatively stable in pg. The onset is rapid and the effects are very noticeable. If you are going to explore this, be careful, be conservative, and don’t treat the lack of negative reports as proof of safety. This is still very much experimental territory. For now I’m going to finish my experimental vapejuice and maybe try an higher dose when the time is there. One datapoint that is missing is the duration, sorry, I got enthusiastic after vaping and after some time continued vaping DMT ontop, so when effects where gone and out of my system is still unknown.
Note: I also successfully dissolved both in VG, and in an 50/50 mix, though they where not vaporized.
This report is for informational purposes only. Both 4-ho-mipt (miprocin) and 4-ho-met (metocin) are relatively unknown psychedelic tryptamines. Vaping is an untested and potentially unsafe route of administration. There is no toxicological data on pyrolysis products, long term health effects, or safe thresholds for vaporized 4-ho compounds. Proceed only if you are fully aware of the risks.
1. Background
A few months ago I was wondering whether miprocin and metocin could be dissolved in propylene glycol for use in a vape. 4-AcO-DMT/4-HO-MET Fumarate water solubility I had been thinking about it but hadn’t seen any real data, so I decided to test it myself. Over the past few months I’ve been experimenting with solubility, visual stability, and subjective effects using small stick-style vape device.
2. Materials
- Compounds:
- miprocin (4-ho-mipt), fumarate salt
- metocin (4-ho-met), fumarate salt
- Solvent: standard propylene glycol for vaping
- Concentrations tested: 75 mg per mL, though based on subjective intensity I would now recommend increasing to 120–150 mg per mL for practical dosing, note: 100 mg was easily dissolved in one ml of pg.
- Vape device: small portable vape (non-sub-ohm)
- Storage: glass bottles, room temperature, dark place
- Test duration: approximately 2 months
3. Observations
Solubility and appearance
Both compounds dissolved easily in propylene glycol with a little heat. The solutions stayed clear and stable at room temperature pH is neutral is slight acidic.
- Miprocin: minimal color change over 2 to 3 months, slower than degradation seen with dmt citrate in pg slight tan hue.
- Metocin: slight yellowing, possibly faster than miprocin, but no clouding or rapid degradation like in water.
Vape effects
Both where tested in a small vape with new coil, in low doses.
- Miprocin: very smooth to inhale, no throat irritation. Comes on rapidly, first effects noticeable within 30 seconds. Warm, soft body feel, calm introspective onset. Takes several pulls to build up. Did not yet go higher in dosage yet, hopefully in the near future.
- Metocin: lighter and brighter. Effects are more pronounced visual sharpening and a slightly euphoric tone. Also fast in onset. Metocin is nice but is lacking in some areas for me so it was more tested to check if it would work.
4. Dosage advice
At 75mg per mL, multiple pulls were needed to reach a threshold effects. For more practical use, especially in small travel-sized vapes, I would recommend going up to 130 or even 150 mg per mL. Of course, start low and work up slowly, effects tend to build a bit slower as compared to DMT, plus vaporized dosing is much harder to dose accurately than oral.
5. Final thoughts
This method works. Both compounds are active and seem relatively stable in pg. The onset is rapid and the effects are very noticeable. If you are going to explore this, be careful, be conservative, and don’t treat the lack of negative reports as proof of safety. This is still very much experimental territory. For now I’m going to finish my experimental vapejuice and maybe try an higher dose when the time is there. One datapoint that is missing is the duration, sorry, I got enthusiastic after vaping and after some time continued vaping DMT ontop, so when effects where gone and out of my system is still unknown.
Note: I also successfully dissolved both in VG, and in an 50/50 mix, though they where not vaporized.
