Having Trouble...First Time. Any help???

[CosmikDebris]

I know a dinosaur who is having a lot of trouble 'lifting off'. They said they have a classic vapor genie and are using a bed of herbs/tobacco and have tried over and over and over and have at most achieved a very relaxing body high. It was most definitely psychadelic, but 0 visual, nothing when eyes closed, carried on conversation with other dino associates about normal dinosaur topics. Set Up:

Classic VG
Bic Lighter
Dino tried 10,20,30,40 and 50 mg doses

Will try torch lighter and someone suggested placing a bed of herbs over top as well as bottom, like a sandwich, but need to know if this is actually the problem as My dino friend is wasting a lot and doesn't have too may chances left...

Any fail proof suggestions that will help these barbaric creatures break through tonight without having to re-establish their set up?

 

[mad_banshee]

I know a dinosaur who is having a lot of trouble 'lifting off'. They said they have a classic vapor genie and are using a bed of herbs/tobacco and have tried over and over and over and have at most achieved a very relaxing body high. It was most definitely psychadelic, but 0 visual, nothing when eyes closed, carried on conversation with other dino associates about normal dinosaur topics. Set Up:

Classic VG
Bic Lighter
Dino tried 10,20,30,40 and 50 mg doses

Will try torch lighter and someone suggested placing a bed of herbs over top as well as bottom, like a sandwich, but need to know if this is actually the problem as My dino friend is wasting a lot and doesn't have too may chances left...

Any fail proof suggestions that will help these barbaric creatures break through tonight without having to re-establish their set up?

Nearly total darkness. Comfort of your bed. 40mg in one big toke being sure it was all burned. That should do it!

 

[CosmikDebris]

I guess he will keep trying...

 

[PrimateSphinx]

I heard the classic VG isn't the greatest for spice, couldn't say why though. maybe it sticks to the wood? anyway if you've tried it that many times I might try a different method such as a pipe or bong? I had a friend who had a wood VG and he said it wasn't the way to go for spice. Anyway hope it works out and I like your name by the way. Who you jiving with that Cosmik Debris?

 

[Felnik]

I've great success with classic vg try using mullien as
Base herb

 

[CosmikDebris]

I heard the classic VG isn't the greatest for spice, couldn't say why though. maybe it sticks to the wood? anyway if you've tried it that many times I might try a different method such as a pipe or bong? I had a friend who had a wood VG and he said it wasn't the way to go for spice. Anyway hope it works out and I like your name by the way. Who you jiving with that Cosmik Debris?

Thanks man. Zappa's the man.


And Felnik...

do you use a copper filter? Thinking about filtering or just sandwiching. The kind of base herb shouldn't really matter though, it's just so it won't melt through, right?

 

[Dream2Awaken]

What sort of setting is this taking place in?

 

[Felnik]

i think the base herb is important, mullein can mellow the vapor alot allowing you a larger hit without discomfort .
its more than just keeping it from melting. I believe it does alot of different things actually.

mullein is a game changer , check it out