Hearing the call of the DMT Dimension...

[Panpsychic]

There is a distinct high pitched frequency, a bit like the sound of tinnitus but louder and audible in the ear that accompanies the entry into the DMT space.
I have heard it described before as a "carrier wave" sound in some reports which I think is describing the same thing.

So here's the thing, this last several months this "carrier wave frequency sound" has been occurring to me outside of tripping at various times. Its a distinct sound that I only ever hear on DMT and associate with that higher dimension of consciousness that DMT accesses. However it will occur for only for maybe 10-20 seconds outside of tripping. It could be at certain time of the morning or at night, but I feel the DMT Dimension is summoning me to it...like a call saying "now would be a good time to partake". Interpreted differently maybe even "now is the time you should be partaking".

I had some doubts initially on if it was really the DMT dimension 'calling', but this was removed recently. I hadn't used for about 2 months and also didnt have any Haramala tea which I usually keep in the fridge (I always smoke after drinking Harmala tea).

I decided to prep some tea to keep, with the idea that I would smoke perhaps later in the week or month...however a few hours after preparing it the same carrier wave sound occurred loudly for about 10 seconds, as if to say "partake now would be good"...so I did. I hadnt heard the sound for the last several weeks so it seemed very synchronous.

So the Harmala DMT Dimension is speaking and "summoning" me through this sound frequency that seems to be indicating and regulating when I should be optimallly doing it. It depends how far I want to take it but it has occurred at 3am when I am in bed but I have declined at that time. However I am more inclinced to wait now for an "invitation" before I partake rather than just going by my whims and feelings.

Does anyone else get this or have had similar experiences?

 

[Voidmatrix]

I'm glad I came across someone else with a similar experience. Adds to the likelihood I may not be crazy, but not much

I experience the call in a few ways. Sometimes it's just this inner yearning, pretty simple, that's the one I'm practicing on abiding by. I too have noticed two distinct types of ringing in my ears, one which seems like regular tinnitus, but the other is... different. I experience the "carrier wave" on DMT almost anytime I smoalk DMT or changa in silence. This second ring is very similar to that one. This is rare though. The third way is pretty damn similar to when I interact telepathically in hyperspace, but it happens outside hyperspace. I had one today that precipitated the one I had today. It was a very necessary one, being celebratory and healing and cathartic. I sure did cry and vent some anger.

One love

 

[Tripolation]

Ring... Ring... Ring...

Hello?

Yes, this is a collect call from DMT.

Will you accept the charge from Hyperspace?

*Click*

Oh, he hung up

That's your residence? I wonder why he hung up?

Is there supposed to be someone else there to answer?

Ring... Ring... Ring...

Hello?

This is the Hyperspace calling, are we reaching.....?

*Click*

See, he keeps hanging up, and it's a man answering

 

[Panpsychic]

I'm glad I came across someone else with a similar experience. Adds to the likelihood I may not be crazy, but not much

So glad there is someone else out there who experiences this as well! Indeed, maybe we're both crazy but if so its good to know its not just me.

I experience the call in a few ways. Sometimes it's just this inner yearning, pretty simple, that's the one I'm practicing on abiding by.

Yup, this is the figurative one. Sometimes one just feels the pull and thats fine.

I too have noticed two distinct types of ringing in my ears, one which seems like regular tinnitus, but the other is... different. I experience the "carrier wave" on DMT almost anytime I smoalk DMT or changa in silence. This second ring is very similar to that one. This is rare though.

I usually smoke in silence which is why I maybe have noticed it more, the "carrier wave" sound I think is not that uncommon with DMT. Its the occurrance outside of it tripping that is interesting and I wonder how common this is, and also what its significance is.

I am increasingly trying to abide by this primarily as it maybe seems to be how it is ideally done, as in the DMT reality is guiding the process through communicating into normal consciousness.

Did you consider what would happen if you:
- Abide only by answering 'the call' no matter the time of day or night it comes
- Incorporate fully and in a more rigourous way the integration lessons given while tripping, before partaking again.

It seems to me there is development pathway being guided by the DMT consciousness here, and it is on us to fulfill it. If we do so, the trips tend to deepen and ones life becomes more fulfilled and there is an increase in synchronistic events to help this process.

the third way is pretty damn similar to when I interact telepathically in hyperspace, but it happens outside hyperspace. I had one today that precipitated the one I had today. It was a very necessary one, being celebratory and healing and cathartic. I sure did cry and vent some anger.

Can you elaborate on this a bit? Sounds like another way indeed of "hearing the call".

 

[Voidmatrix]

Abide only by answering 'the call' no matter the time of day or night it comes

Not really because that doesn't seem feasible. I've heard the call like a roar from a battlehorn while at work, a time not opportune to journeying. If I get the call, the invitation is "open for the day," generally, so while I may be in a rush, there's actually no rush.

Incorporate fully and in a more rigourous way the integration lessons given while tripping, before partaking again.

I'm not sure if this is just me, but it seems that many integrations go by faster. It's as though the more one does it the better they get. Then there's also the instances in which there's not much to integrate. Some journeys just don't have that kind of content. Sometimes it's just about being in the space.

Can you elaborate on this a bit? Sounds like another way indeed of "hearing the call".

You asking cause me to develop a term, it's an outside the space "hyperspacial beckoning." They're literally in my mind, or connected to it. Or so it seems.

One love

 

[Panpsychic]

Not really because that doesn't seem feasible. I've heard the call like a roar from a battlehorn while at work, a time not opportune to journeying. If I get the call, the invitation is "open for the day," generally, so while I may be in a rush, there's actually no rush.

Obviously it does need to be when feasible. I would say while it could be interpreted the DMT calling as being an invitation to partake that day, sometimes it seems much more specific. It was in reference for example to hearing the carrier wave in the middle of the night, and the 'challenge' it seemed was if I was committed enough to get up right there and then and partake as was being suggested. Obviously there are sleep cycles and melatonin so I presume it would have been a particularly opportune time to do so.

I'm not sure if this is just me, but it seems that many integrations go by faster. It's as though the more one does it the better they get. Then there's also the instances in which there's not much to integrate. Some journeys just don't have that kind of content. Sometimes it's just about being in the space.

I am trying to weave together this kind of 'interdimensional development plan' that it seems to me is being given, with understanding this "DMT Calling" phenomena. I feel that the more integration work is done, the more often the call will come since you are progressing as the DMT wants.

Frankly I am very suprised that its occurring for you also and it makes me wonder for how many others out there this happens. I havent read or heard about the phenomena but it must be more common.

You asking cause me to develop a term, it's an outside the space "hyperspacial beckoning." They're literally in my mind, or connected to it. Or so it seems.

Yes, because you mentioned recognizing the carrier wave but that it was a rare occurrence however I think we are on the same page about this, and others should be able to clearly recognize it if they experience it.

However you also mentioned the above 'telepathic interaction' that occurs inside the DMT space, occuring outside.

So we are a bit clearer, can you give an example of what this telepathic connection is experienced as in phenomenological terms, and what it is you feel you are interacting with inside and outside the space, and the relation between the two? If its possible to describe that is... but you are calling it also a form of beckoning so that is interesting as it may be an additional modality of communication from the DMT consciousness.

 

[Traged]

Would you guys be able to recognize/name that frequency? We might be able to tune instruments to something like that...

 

[fink]

I just have tinnitus in both ears so I probably would not even notice

 

[Voidmatrix]

I feel that the more integration work is done, the more often the call will come since you are progressing as the DMT wants.

If this is true then there are some powerful implications for me... But this is an interesting thought for me to chew on because I had never thought of it that way. While I have challenging experiences, I'm still beckoned often by the space, as though I am already inducted into some hyperspatial development plan.

Yes, because you mentioned recognizing the carrier wave but that it was a rare occurrence however I think we are on the same page about this, and others should be able to clearly recognize it if they experience it.

While the distinction may be hard to describe the experience of it is pretty obvious, at least it appears to so for yourself and myself.

So we are a bit clearer, can you give an example of what this telepathic connection is experienced as in phenomenological terms, and what it is you feel you are interacting with inside and outside the space, and the relation between the two? If its possible to describe that is... but you are calling it also a form of beckoning so that is interesting as it may be an additional modality of communication from the DMT consciousness.

The similarities between the telepathic communication inside the space and outside space are in vibe and overall tone. The difference is clarity and obviousness. In the space, you're attuned and so the communication is without question like when in a one on one conversation, but there's no verbal dialogue, just the direct conveyance of information.

When I'm not in the space, it's very toying, where if put into words would be things like, "whatcha doin?" Hinting that perhaps I can stop to head in and then continue with my day. I've been admonished outside the space for not communing more deeply with the space. On occasion there will be some back and forth.

I feel like I'm not explaining it very well, though it is becoming a more prominent aspect of my experience.

One love

 

[Panpsychic]

If this is true then there are some powerful implications for me... But this is an interesting thought for me to chew on because I had never thought of it that way. While I have challenging experiences, I'm still beckoned often by the space, as though I am already inducted into some hyperspatial development plan.

I do think that it requires paying full respect to it, which means abiding as much as possible when summoned and adhering to the integration lessons learned.

I personally also feel that respecting the experience means also the metaphysical perspectives that it is perhaps unfolding and which I regard as part of the lens through which deeper layers of the DMT process can become more accessible.

Since it seems to me the DMT Dimension is connected with the underlying structure of reality itself none of this should really be that suprising though, and it would make sense that once you align with purpose it gradually becomes more directly involved.

I've been admonished outside the space for not communing more deeply with the space. On occasion there will be some back and forth.

I feel like I'm not explaining it very well, though it is becoming a more prominent aspect of my experience.

When you say you have been 'admonished' by the DMT outside the space, what form did this take and how did you perceive it as an admonishment?

I am considering this 'DMT calling' as almost a corollary of the 'lockout effect' in which the communication would almost be "don't come back, until you have sorted yourself out or are accessing with the right intent".

 

[Voidmatrix]

I do think that it requires paying full respect to it, which means abiding as much as possible when summoned and adhering to the integration lessons learned.

When you say you have been 'admonished' by the DMT outside the space, what form did this take and how did you perceive it as an admonishment?

These two pieces are a bit connected. My respect and reverence are implicit at this point, a very deep bond, not something that I or the space seem to question much anymore. However, where we have some hang-ups is with regard to depth. I don't think I can handle it (though I can, that persnickety thought is cumbersome, and we've visited this before), the space, entities in it, etc, feel that I can. So any admonishment comes in those rare moments, where the space loses a bit of its patience and understanding and scolds me for not going deeper outside the space. It's almost louder telepathically, and when I'm out alone I want to respond verbally. It's often around these times that they "take" me, where I smoalk some small amount and get way more than I bargained for. So, that being said, that's where my adherence wanes and falters and I'm not living into the best I could. It's a work in progress.

I personally also feel that respecting the experience means also the metaphysical perspectives that it is perhaps unfolding and which I regard as part of the lens through which deeper layers of the DMT process can become more accessible.

Since it seems to me the DMT Dimension is connected with the underlying structure of reality itself none of this should really be that suprising though, and it would make sense that once you align with purpose it gradually becomes more directly involved.

I know that part of "them" knows why I don't go deeper very often. There's a polyvalent structuring that I am being shown over time. They know I'm skeptical so it's almost a test. They commend my skepticism (in that I suspend judgment and stay pretty open, which is easier said than done as a biological organism with innate responses to certain types of stimuli, external, internal, or internally external) and they know I'll entertain the plethora of possibilities. That said, I experience a lot by way of metaphysical perspectives and then play slightly beyond them in the space, not by my choice, that's just what they give me. It's hard to put it into words at this point.

I am considering this 'DMT calling' as almost a corollary of the 'lockout effect' in which the communication would almost be "don't come back, until you have sorted yourself out or are accessing with the right intent".

I can see this, and I also find it funny because I often feel like a mess

One love

 

[Voidmatrix]

Been thinking about you because of some interesting phenomena i seem to be experiencing.

So, since this thread and talking to you, the ringing has happened several times outside the space. There's also an uptick and a greater "volume" of telepathic communication. I had two today. While meditating in the medicine space on how I "don't need permission," (this is in general, not specific to dmt or changa, but is inclusive of them) I received a communique to the effect of "damn right you don't, you're always welcome." The second was immediately after landing from a light changa journey where I was given an unsolicited "great job."

Thought you'd like to know

One love

 

[Panpsychic]

Been thinking about you because of some interesting phenomena i seem to be experiencing.

So, since this thread and talking to you, the ringing has happened several times outside the space. There's also an uptick and a greater "volume" of telepathic communication. I had two today. While meditating in the medicine space on how I "don't need permission," (this is in general, not specific to dmt or changa, but is inclusive of them) I received a communique to the effect of "damn right you don't, you're always welcome." The second was immediately after landing from a light changa journey where I was given an unsolicited "great job."

Thought you'd like to know

One love

This is interesting, perhaps indicative that giving more attention to it is leading to noticing or being more attuned to this aspect of the relation with DMT - a process that is not merely limited to the experience itself, or even to the conscious integration afterward but a living communion that is ever present and reaches out especially if one does the work.

I also have had some interesting experiences lately. I usually am given very clear directions for self improvement and integration when I trip, both on Harmala-DMT and on acid. This can take the form of certain commitments or "vows" I will make, such as to refrain from certain behaviours or to engage in certain development practices, indefinitely or over a set period, like "I will abstain from x behaviour (eg alcohol drinking) for the next 3 months and do meditation 5 days a week" or something along those lines. These are sometimes done more formally by bowing to my altar, the centre piece of which is a Prism representing the higher dimensions of being.
I haven't always been able to keep it but I am getting better and more self disciplined.

This is in line with what I feel the DMT is asking, that I make myself a more effective vessel for the higher consciousness that is trying to be expressed through me.
So just yesterday I was going back and forth but was just about to concede on one of these committments I had recently made which was a moment of weakness. Just the moment before I was about to break it, the same distinct high pitched frequency occurred as if to say "remember your vow". Needless to say I checked myself, reaffirmed my committment and did not engage in that.

So in this case the frequency communication seemed to be acting as a reminder to honor the intention I had made while tripping, and to keep me on path it has set forth.


It will be interested to see how these phenomema of direct communication outside of tripping play out in the coming weeks and months. As far as I can tell, this is largely uncharted or reported terrain so mapping this aspect will be of benefit and perhaps others will begin to attune more to this also.

 

[Voidmatrix]

This is interesting, perhaps indicative that giving more attention to it is leading to noticing or being more attuned to this aspect of the relation with DMT - a process that is not merely limited to the experience itself, or even to the conscious integration afterward but a living communion that is ever present and reaches out especially if one does the work.

I also have had some interesting experiences lately. I usually am given very clear directions for self improvement and integration when I trip, both on Harmala-DMT and on acid. This can take the form of certain commitments or "vows" I will make, such as to refrain from certain behaviours or to engage in certain development practices, indefinitely or over a set period, like "I will abstain from x behaviour (eg alcohol drinking) for the next 3 months and do meditation 5 days a week" or something along those lines. These are sometimes done more formally by bowing to my altar, the centre piece of which is a Prism representing the higher dimensions of being.
I haven't always been able to keep it but I am getting better and more self disciplined.

This is in line with what I feel the DMT is asking, that I make myself a more effective vessel for the higher consciousness that is trying to be expressed through me.
So just yesterday I was going back and forth but was just about to concede on one of these committments I had recently made which was a moment of weakness. Just the moment before I was about to break it, the same distinct high pitched frequency occurred as if to say "remember your vow". Needless to say I checked myself, reaffirmed my committment and did not engage in that.

So in this case the frequency communication seemed to be acting as a reminder to honor the intention I had made while tripping, and to keep me on path it has set forth.


It will be interested to see how these phenomema of direct communication outside of tripping play out in the coming weeks and months. As far as I can tell, this is largely uncharted or reported terrain so mapping this aspect will be of benefit and perhaps others will begin to attune more to this also.

Thank you for sharing this. For me, things are a bit more elusive. The only clear message is "stay connected" though it doesn't seem like I have much of a choice. I'm reverent and committed.

It seems there's something inherent/earned/grown/shown/developed in me that I do not see that they are trying to get my attention on. It's been that way since the very first time. And it's a bit paradoxical because one of the reasons it's hard to figure out is because of my skepticism, yet that's what they praise me for. I think the praise for skepticism is present because it allows the space to open up in more ways because I don't have certain "mandates" of thought and thinking that they may have to dance around.

One love

 

[premeditated]

This is interesting, perhaps indicative that giving more attention to it is leading to noticing or being more attuned to this aspect of the relation with DMT - a process that is not merely limited to the experience itself, or even to the conscious integration afterward but a living communion that is ever present and reaches out especially if one does the work.

I also have had some interesting experiences lately. I usually am given very clear directions for self improvement and integration when I trip, both on Harmala-DMT and on acid. This can take the form of certain commitments or "vows" I will make, such as to refrain from certain behaviours or to engage in certain development practices, indefinitely or over a set period, like "I will abstain from x behaviour (eg alcohol drinking) for the next 3 months and do meditation 5 days a week" or something along those lines. These are sometimes done more formally by bowing to my altar, the centre piece of which is a Prism representing the higher dimensions of being.
I haven't always been able to keep it but I am getting better and more self disciplined.

This is in line with what I feel the DMT is asking, that I make myself a more effective vessel for the higher consciousness that is trying to be expressed through me.
So just yesterday I was going back and forth but was just about to concede on one of these committments I had recently made which was a moment of weakness. Just the moment before I was about to break it, the same distinct high pitched frequency occurred as if to say "remember your vow". Needless to say I checked myself, reaffirmed my committment and did not engage in that.

So in this case the frequency communication seemed to be acting as a reminder to honor the intention I had made while tripping, and to keep me on path it has set forth.


It will be interested to see how these phenomema of direct communication outside of tripping play out in the coming weeks and months. As far as I can tell, this is largely uncharted or reported terrain so mapping this aspect will be of benefit and perhaps others will begin to attune more to this also.

I can't figure out why I do that to myself..whenever I break a priority that could've taken me 30 mins to complete...i ruminate over it for hours later. Doesn't make sense...maybe subconscious self destruction. Idk

 

[Panpsychic]

It seems there's something inherent/earned/grown/shown/developed in me that I do not see that they are trying to get my attention on. It's been that way since the very first time. And it's a bit paradoxical because one of the reasons it's hard to figure out is because of my skepticism, yet that's what they praise me for. I think the praise for skepticism is present because it allows the space to open up in more ways because I don't have certain "mandates" of thought and thinking that they may have to dance around.

Skeptical enquiry is key. At the same time this term 'skepticism' can have many applications and shades of meaning. It shields us from misguided beliefs on one hand, yet too often it is a shorthand for
"doubts about other viewpoints aside from the ones which I personally hold, and which I don't question or even consider or realise are also assumptions."

This attitude simply won't cut it for DMT if you want to really go deeper. So yes, if you keep an open mind while maintaining an attitude of skeptical enquiry, the many attributes of the space can open up and you will notice them more because you aren't automatically closing them off as possibilities in the first place. Even this whole area of discussion is probably considered to be pretty far out by some standards but here we are and thats fine.

I can't figure out why I do that to myself..whenever I break a priority that could've taken me 30 mins to complete...i ruminate over it for hours later. Doesn't make sense...maybe subconscious self destruction. Idk

I read a good trip report recently where this same issue came up. The insight they had was that it boiled down to "how serious one is" in these committments to change. It sounds obvious when it's put like that, but I suppose a lot of the time there is a conflict of intentions in the mind or one isn't really making them with full commitment to begin with. So one intention overrides another thats maybe going the other way later. Thats why things like reaffirming ones intent, accountability and other strategies can help to keep one on track.
Based on what I'm experiencing currently, I actually feel some trepidation now at the idea of breaking a vow if I make it in the DMT space which is a good thing in maintaining consistency.

 

[Voidmatrix]

Skeptical enquiry is key. At the same time this term 'skepticism' can have many applications and shades of meaning. It shields us from misguided beliefs on one hand, yet too often it is a shorthand for
"doubts about other viewpoints aside from the ones which I personally hold, and which I don't question or even consider or realise are also assumptions."

Well said, one may even go so far as to say that this isn't even skepticism, but rather pure manipulation to make things fit a particular, and often, subjectively held, position. If we were to call it skepticism, we could call it deluded skepticism or even naive skepticism

This attitude simply won't cut it for DMT if you want to really go deeper. So yes, if you keep an open mind while maintaining an attitude of skeptical enquiry, the many attributes of the space can open up and you will notice them more because you aren't automatically closing them off as possibilities in the first place. Even this whole area of discussion is probably considered to be pretty far out by some standards but here we are and thats fine.

No, no it won't. I sometimes wonder if the space plays with people that think otherwise, hence temperance seems to be another beneficial quality.

One love

 

[Kobranek]

I've been contemplating the issue of resisting the call. I too get strong feelings of yearning to be called into the dmt space which more often times than not I resist the call. There was a point where I was forcing myself into the space without the call to be shut out. It's an interesting paradox where if one doesn't get the call for those that are open to the message breakthrough may not be achieved similarly if it is forced.
Although, I did have to force myself the very first time, but was the initial call strong enough to overcome that aspect?
A far as resisting the call, I like to think of my decision to resist and forgo less frequently is setting me up for almost guaranteed breakthroughs for when I decide. Kinda like a dmt karma bank account. The times I get the call I can still tap into the feelings and appreciation for my journeys leading up to that point.

 

[premeditated]

Well said, one may even go so far as to say that this isn't even skepticism, but rather pure manipulation to make things fit a particular, and often, subjectively held, position. If we were to call it skepticism, we could call it deluded skepticism or even naive skepticism


No, no it won't. I sometimes wonder if the space plays with people that think otherwise, hence temperance seems to be another beneficial quality.

One love

P

I've been contemplating the issue of resisting the call. I too get strong feelings of yearning to be called into the dmt space which more often times than not I resist the call. There was a point where I was forcing myself into the space without the call to be shut out. It's an interesting paradox where if one doesn't get the call for those that are open to the message breakthrough may not be achieved similarly if it is forced.
Although, I did have to force myself the very first time, but was the initial call strong enough to overcome that aspect?
A far as resisting the call, I like to think of my decision to resist and forgo less frequently is setting me up for almost guaranteed breakthroughs for when I decide. Kinda like a dmt karma bank account. The times I get the call I can still tap into the feelings and appreciation for my journeys leading up to that point.

So how often do you indulge

 

[premeditated]

This attitude simply won't cut it for DMT if you want to really go deeper. So yes, if you keep an open mind while maintaining an attitude of skeptical enquiry, the many attributes of the space can open up and you will notice them more because you aren't automatically closing them off as possibilities in the first place. Even this whole area of discussion is probably considered to be pretty far out by some standards but here we are and thats fine.

Panpsychic can you dummy that down for me to understand