Hearing the call of the DMT Dimension...

[Kobranek]

So how often do you indulge

Lately every six months to a year for dmt.... I've been contemplating going in more lately. Funny thing is I keep getting this reoccurring thought once I'm in the space that downplays the experience. Like I'm making this big fuss and I revere the experience so much it's like okay now what, your here, so?!

 

[CurvedReality]

There is a distinct high pitched frequency, a bit like the sound of tinnitus but louder and audible in the ear that accompanies the entry into the DMT space.
I have heard it described before as a "carrier wave" sound in some reports which I think is describing the same thing.

So here's the thing, this last several months this "carrier wave frequency sound" has been occurring to me outside of tripping at various times. Its a distinct sound that I only ever hear on DMT and associate with that higher dimension of consciousness that DMT accesses. However it will occur for only for maybe 10-20 seconds outside of tripping. It could be at certain time of the morning or at night, but I feel the DMT Dimension is summoning me to it...like a call saying "now would be a good time to partake". Interpreted differently maybe even "now is the time you should be partaking".

I had some doubts initially on if it was really the DMT dimension 'calling', but this was removed recently. I hadn't used for about 2 months and also didnt have any Haramala tea which I usually keep in the fridge (I always smoke after drinking Harmala tea).

I decided to prep some tea to keep, with the idea that I would smoke perhaps later in the week or month...however a few hours after preparing it the same carrier wave sound occurred loudly for about 10 seconds, as if to say "partake now would be good"...so I did. I hadnt heard the sound for the last several weeks so it seemed very synchronous.

So the Harmala DMT Dimension is speaking and "summoning" me through this sound frequency that seems to be indicating and regulating when I should be optimallly doing it. It depends how far I want to take it but it has occurred at 3am when I am in bed but I have declined at that time. However I am more inclinced to wait now for an "invitation" before I partake rather than just going by my whims and feelings.

Does anyone else get this or have had similar experiences?

I made some changa and was trying it out (small amount just to get the feeling on dosage) and on my 2nd or 3rd time smoking it (small amount so only brighter colours and some 'ringing' in the ears) and I felt/heard this calling from whatever we meet when we go deeper. I randomly saw this post and read it and tears started to fall (not crying just a couple tears). I don't know why but my guess is I found someone who had a similar experience. Made an account just because of this post and I will be browsing this forum a lot more now.

 

[premeditated]

Lately every six months to a year for dmt.... I've been contemplating going in more lately. Funny thing is I keep getting this reoccurring thought once I'm in the space that downplays the experience. Like I'm making this big fuss and I revere the experience so much it's like okay now what, your here, so?!

Kinda similar for me...haven't broken through yet but after 5 minutes I start thinking how can I explain this to ppl. It turns darker more dull as if the space wants me go be fully present.

 

[Panpsychic]

"This attitude simply won't cut it for DMT if you want to really go deeper. So yes, if you keep an open mind while maintaining an attitude of skeptical enquiry, the many attributes of the space can open up and you will notice them more because you aren't automatically closing them off as possibilities in the first place. Even this whole area of discussion is probably considered to be pretty far out by some standards but here we are and thats fine."

Panpsychic can you dummy that down for me to understand

I can try to clarify what I mean.

There are lots of parameters of what we take to be 'reality' simply because they match our day to day experience in ordinary baseline consciousness, or more often they match the prevailing model we have been taught or which usually applies for how reality 'works'. We then bring these parameters and apply them to interpreting what we expect to see on DMT and how we interpret and understand what we experience.

By parameters and assumptions I'm talking about like "the arrow of time always flows forward". Common sense it seems yet sometimes people have precognition and visions of the future on psychedelics (or during dreams) and then they come true (an unconditioned future vision) or they had the possibility of coming true but maybe did not (a conditional future vision). Or another might be "entity contact is just in the mind, so it cant give me real world knowledge about the actual laws of reality".

As Chris Bache (author of 'LSD and the Mind of the Universe') puts it "Different states of consciousness, different rules apply".

These assummed normal parameters are actually limitations in ones beliefs or assumptions that are distorting the direct experience of what the DMT may be showing you, in order to filter it into a familiar perspective and belief system you may hold ("seeing into the future isnt possible, so that cant be what I saw and even if it came true, it must have been a cooincidence or I misremembered").

So in the case of this discussion we are exploring the DMT Dimension is communicating with us and in a kind of reciprocal relationship both during and outside of tripping, and that we seem to be being given directions and challanges for personal development, that when met will unfold ever deeper layers of the experience and that relationship.

I have no doubt the phenomena has occurred for many over the years, but without a prevailing map that could even consider the possibility, the "DMT carrier wave" frequency may have been just ignored or dismissed as an unwanted or unimportant phenomena, rather than as a pathway by which the DMT is communcating with oneself.

Once this possibility is considered, more connections become apparent and the interactive nature of it becomes clearer, and others may be more likely to acknowledge and notice it since it now becomes more of an accepted part of the terrain of possibility with DMT.

I don’t kmow if that made things clearer but thats how I would put it.

 

[premeditated]

I can try to clarify what I mean.

There are lots of parameters of what we take to be 'reality' simply because they match our day to day experience in ordinary baseline consciousness, or more often they match the prevailing model we have been taught or which usually applies for how reality 'works'. We then bring these parameters and apply them to interpreting what we expect to see on DMT and how we interpret and understand what we experience.

By parameters and assumptions I'm talking about like "the arrow of time always flows forward". Common sense it seems yet sometimes people have precognition and visions of the future on psychedelics (or during dreams) and then they come true (an unconditioned future vision) or they had the possibility of coming true but maybe did not (a conditional future vision). Or another might be "entity contact is just in the mind, so it cant give me real world knowledge about the actual laws of reality".

As Chris Bache (author of 'LSD and the Mind of the Universe') puts it "Different states of consciousness, different rules apply".

These assummed normal parameters are actually limitations in ones beliefs or assumptions that are distorting the direct experience of what the DMT may be showing you, in order to filter it into a familiar perspective and belief system you may hold ("seeing into the future isnt possible, so that cant be what I saw and even if it came true, it must have been a cooincidence or I misremembered").

So in the case of this discussion we are exploring the DMT Dimension is communicating with us and in a kind of reciprocal relationship both during and outside of tripping, and that we seem to be being given directions and challanges for personal development, that when met will unfold ever deeper layers of the experience and that relationship.

I have no doubt the phenomena has occurred for many over the years, but without a prevailing map that could even consider the possibility, the "DMT carrier wave" frequency may have been just ignored or dismissed as an unwanted or unimportant phenomena, rather than as a pathway by which the DMT is communcating with oneself.

Once this possibility is considered, more connections become apparent and the interactive nature of it becomes clearer, and others may be more likely to acknowledge and notice it since it now becomes more of an accepted part of the terrain of possibility with DMT.

I don’t kmow if that made things clearer but thats how I would put it.

Made it very clear and it makes so much sense. Idk if this makes sense but most ppl look at ppl with mental disabilities as a negative. I know it can be a struggle for parents trying to raise them but that's not my point. My point is since they may not have all the tools in their brain then they don't stress over normal things society has ingrained in us. I'm just trying to correlate that to what you said. So if we spent so many years creating this world model and so assure of this current reality. How do we train our brains to have an open slate? I'm a very open minded person but it took me many years of self reflection. Plus I'm a natural born super empath...so I naturally always look at others perspective.

 

[Panpsychic]

Certain conditions can reflect processing differences that aren't necessarily worse but just different. For example Aspergers syndrome has been correlated with some social deficits but often higher IQ and mathematical ability. Similarly some schizotypal traits in people have been associted with increased creativity and artistic capabilities.

In terms of how to broaden horizens - trusting the experience while maintaining a questioning attitude. We can't just negate out prevailing assumptions nor should we since many of them are broadly accurate and serve us well in day to day life. Its where they become a limiting belief especially with regards to non-ordinary experiences that they can be a problem.
Reading good trip reports and accounts of natural mystics can open one to the types of experience that may be possible and what to look out for. Then not adhering to dogmatism in scientific discourse but recognizing there is no consensus on a lot of the key issues such as 'what is the fundamental nature of reallty', and plenty of viewpoints that are compatible with psychedelic experiences.

We can then maintain a broadly coherent framework that allows to explore deeper while still maintaining a questioning attitude, and the experience will tend to validate itself over time if we are on the right track.