Hello everyone I’m completely new hear and I’m hoping to lien from the community.

[Captainchaos]

Hi all ,
Firstly I’ve read the rules and all looks straight forward but if I brake any protocol please let me know.
I have a couple of questions I was hoping someone could help me with.
I’ve been experiencing with dmt for the first time recently .
I’ve been wanting to try using dmt for a long time now but it just hasn’t happened , mostly because it hasn’t been available to me without putting in some effort and I’m a terrible procrastinator !

Recently I’ve managed to get hold of a vape and have been experimenting with that .

First question is , what are other people’s thoughts on these vape pens ?

I have had some quite profound experiences with this device even though it looks just like a disposable vape you get from supermarket .

Are these considered any good?

Secondly, before indulging I did quite a bit of reading.
I’ve been reading about various different stages of trip , like a tunnel type phenomenon and ultimately braking through?

How do I know if I am braking through?

I have certainly been completely engulfed in a space that I didn’t know existed and am unable to describe with words,
My experience was very visual and although I didn’t really know where I was and to an extent lost my sense of self I was still very aware of, even hyper aware.
It made very little difference wether my eyes were open or closed,
I could certainly still see but without really recognition of what anything was.
I had no sense of any other presences where I was but was aware enough still that I felt I was looking for someone.
I think that I remained aware that I was tripping so didnt completely detach myself from reality.

After talking a second long inhalation I wasn’t capable or aware enough to manage a third

The whole time from onset until knowing where I was again only lasted maybe 5 minutes at most ( at least I think so)

I understand it’s probably difficult to know from my clumsy explanation,
But dose this sound more like I am failing to properly beak through.
The experience was wonderful and profoundly beautiful but dose this sound more like the pre beak through phase ?
If so what can I do to get a stronger and possibly longer experience?

 

[Captainchaos]

Sorry learn not leian .
Good start spelling mistakes in the title of my first post

 

[Transform]

what are other people’s thoughts on these vape pens ?

Hi there and welcome to the Nexus!

One particular thing we are very keen on here is that people extract their own DMT so that they aren't exposing themselves to risks from grey- or black market products. This comes from a fundamental harm reduction and avoidance stance.

There's a non-zero risk of dangerous admixtures like fentanyl showing up in a vape pen of unassured providence due to the nature of that type of business.

Mass production of these types of devices is highly likely to put pressure on natural sources of DMT, as well as risking environmental pollution since criminal organisations aren't typically known for following best practice with waute disposal.

The proceeds from sale of these devices may well go into funding other criminal activities, including human trafficking. And that might not even be a worst-case scenario.

Now, I'm not saying that your device has all or even any of these associations, but I'd be far less confident to say that it definitely doesn't.

There's the beginnings of a relevant discussion of this topic here:

DMT DTO PSA

HIGH INTENSITY DRUG TRAFFICKING AREAS PROGRAM 2024 REPORT TO CONGRESS THE WHITE HOUSE EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OFFICE OF NATIONAL DRUG CONTROL POLICY bidenwhitehouse.archives .gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/2024-HIDTA-Annual-Report-to-Congress.pdf In total, 60 clandestine...

forum.dmt-nexus.me

 

[Captainchaos]

Hi there and welcome to the Nexus!

One particular thing we are very keen on here is that people extract their own DMT so that they aren't exposing themselves to risks from grey- or black market products. This comes from a fundamental harm reduction and avoidance stance.

There's a non-zero risk of dangerous admixtures like fentanyl showing up in a vape pen of unassured providence due to the nature of that type of business.

Mass production of these types of devices is highly likely to put pressure on natural sources of DMT, as well as risking environmental pollution since criminal organisations aren't typically known for following best practice with waute disposal.

The proceeds from sale of these devices may well go into funding other criminal activities, including human trafficking. And that might not even be a worst-case scenario.

Now, I'm not saying that your device has all or even any of these associations, but I'd be far less confident to say that it definitely doesn't.

There's the beginnings of a relevant discussion of this topic here:

DMT DTO PSA

HIGH INTENSITY DRUG TRAFFICKING AREAS PROGRAM 2024 REPORT TO CONGRESS THE WHITE HOUSE EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OFFICE OF NATIONAL DRUG CONTROL POLICY bidenwhitehouse.archives .gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/2024-HIDTA-Annual-Report-to-Congress.pdf In total, 60 clandestine...

forum.dmt-nexus.me

This is extremely interesting to me and I agree with everything you have told me . My problem is a complete lack of knowledge.
The experience I have had where amazing and I have been left feeling extremely exited and hungry to lure more . But I don’t know where to look ?
I definitely don’t want to be responsible for contributing to the kind of criminal manufacturing process you describe. But what should I do?

 

[Transform]

This is extremely interesting to me and I agree with everything you have told me . My problem is a complete lack of knowledge.
The experience I have had where amazing and I have been left feeling extremely exited and hungry to lure more . But I don’t know where to look ?
I definitely don’t want to be responsible for contributing to the kind of criminal manufacturing process you describe. But what should I do?

Maybe it's kind of unfair of me to assume that it's not some kind of artisan product made by enthusiasts, except the cat is well and truly out of the bag on this one. Our forum is still here to present an alternative, despite the paradox that the information curated here almost certainly contributed either directly or indirectly towards the choices of profiteering individuals in mass-production of vape pens and their marketing online.

Here's the beginnings of your self-empowerment:

Resources

forum.dmt-nexus.me

DMT Extraction Paths

All roads lead to Rome

forum.dmt-nexus.me

Vaping/Smoking

We float around, hang out on clouds

forum.dmt-nexus.me

and explanation of our ethos which underpins my rant:

Attitude Page - DMT-Nexus Wiki

wiki.dmt-nexus.me

 

[Captainchaos]

Maybe it's kind of unfair of me to assume that it's not some kind of artisan product made by enthusiasts, except the cat is well and truly out of the bag on this one. Our forum is still here to present an alternative, despite the paradox that the information curated here almost certainly contributed either directly or indirectly towards the choices of profiteering individuals in mass-production of vape pens and their marketing online.

Here's the beginnings of your self-empowerment:

Resources

forum.dmt-nexus.me

DMT Extraction Paths

All roads lead to Rome

forum.dmt-nexus.me

Vaping/Smoking

We float around, hang out on clouds

forum.dmt-nexus.me

and explanation of our ethos which underpins my rant:

Attitude Page - DMT-Nexus Wiki

wiki.dmt-nexus.me

 

[Captainchaos]

Hi
Thank you so much for taking the time to explained all of this to me .

Unfortunately I don’t believe that my vape was in any way any kind of “artisan product” and although it was quite effective , after reading your advice I’ve decided that I won’t be buying anything like that again.
SO , now here I am I’ve had this incredible glimpse of this wonderful world but it seems I have quite a steep learning curve in front of me.

I’ve already spent quite a bit of time reading on the nexus.

I’m not sure what rules here allow you to tell me but if I were to do my first extraction attempt how much Mimosa hostilis root bark, raw material should I start with?

 

[blig-blug]

SO , now here I am I’ve had this incredible glimpse of this wonderful world but it seems I have quite a steep learning curve in front of me.

I'm happy to hear you have decided to extract. The glimpse you mention will serve as motivation, and you'll see that extracting is very satisfying.
I know it looks confusing and intimidating at first, but you'll see how it's actually much easier than it appears to be. I would rate the difficulty of the average Tek as similar to a cake recipe, with the main difference being that you need to be more careful with some of the extraction "ingredients" like lye and solvents.

I’m not sure what rules here allow you to tell me but if I were to do my first extraction attempt how much Mimosa hostilis root bark, raw material should I start with?

50g is a good amount to get started, and most teks list amounts for 50g. It's an easy to handle amount and you are likely to get at least 1g DMT (depending on bark quality).

 

[Captainchaos]

I'm happy to hear you have decided to extract. The glimpse you mention will serve as motivation, and you'll see that extracting is very satisfying.
I know it looks confusing and intimidating at first, but you'll see how it's actually much easier than it appears to be. I would rate the difficulty of the average Tek as similar to a cake recipe, with the main difference being that you need to be more careful with some of the extraction "ingredients" like lye and solvents.


50g is a good amount to get started, and most teks list amounts for 50g. It's an easy to handle amount and you are likely to get at least 1g DMT (depending on bark quality).

Thanks , really appreciate your input.
Up until now I’ve only been reading the general overview of the chemistry involved and hadn’t studied any individual tek. Now having read a few I see that most suggest a quantity of raw material to start with in relation to the other measurements..

 

[Transform]

50g is a good amount to get started, and most teks list amounts for 50g. It's an easy to handle amount and you are likely to get at least 1g DMT (depending on bark quality).

I've even used 25g amounts and it's super easy to handle, other than the amounts of naphtha being necessarily rather small. Having some glass Pasteur pipettes made recovery of the naphtha really easy at this scale, however, and everything fitted nicely in a small jam jar.