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HELP ID: Europe, grows ON WOOD !!!
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concombres
Rising Star
Are you just looking for an ID or are you hoping you have found something psychoactive?
IME you are not likely to find anything active just wandering around & picking any random mushrooms you see. You are going to need to do some research into what types of psychoactive mushrooms grow in your geographic location & study what time of year they grow, what type of matter they grow on, how they look & what the lookalikes & poisonous mushrooms locally are, & ideally have a microscope to take spore prints make sure you have the right mushrooms.
IME you are not likely to find anything active just wandering around & picking any random mushrooms you see. You are going to need to do some research into what types of psychoactive mushrooms grow in your geographic location & study what time of year they grow, what type of matter they grow on, how they look & what the lookalikes & poisonous mushrooms locally are, & ideally have a microscope to take spore prints make sure you have the right mushrooms.
entheogenic-gnosis
Rising Star
It looks like Armillaria mellea, but I can't say for sure.
You need to take a spore print, then you need to take detailed recordings of the general size and description of the pileus, the stipe, and the gills, you also must note the region the mushroom was found in, what season it was found, as well as the medium which the fungi was growing on, then take photographs of the fungi, good pictures of the pileus and gills, detailed pictures of the stipe and annulus (if annulus is present) and post these new detailed photographs with the accompanying information, and you will be MUCH more likely to find an identification.
Its NOT gymnopilus spectabilis if that's what your thinking...
I'm really burned out on fungi at the moment, and I have been researching other things, so sorry if I'm not very enthusiastic to provide a long detailed response, the last post before mine basically says it all.
(To take a spore print you must remove the cap, and set it face down on a blank piece of paper, allow the cap to sit undisturbed for at least 6 to 8 hours, I generally will place the cap on the paper (gills down), and leave it there until the next morning. When you remove the cap a "spore print" will be left on your paper. (Sometimes I will take 1/2 a piece of black paper and half a sheet of white paper and place the cap so it's resting with half its diameter on each color, this is for contrast or for light spored species ) ( spore prints can be taken and can be saved on aluminum foil as well )
(Its also good to have a microscope handy, when I was in the study of Panaeolus cinctulus, syn. Panaeolus subbalteatus and Panaeolina foenisecii fungi at times it was difficult to distinguish the spore prints colors from one another, one is Brown, the other is jet black, I was having issues by eye and had to place the spores under a microscope, one species has smooth spores, the other species spores have distinguishing "bumps", so this simple look under the microscope gave me a confirmed identity, you probably learned how to use a microscope in middle school, nothing here is any more complicated than that. )
-eg
You need to take a spore print, then you need to take detailed recordings of the general size and description of the pileus, the stipe, and the gills, you also must note the region the mushroom was found in, what season it was found, as well as the medium which the fungi was growing on, then take photographs of the fungi, good pictures of the pileus and gills, detailed pictures of the stipe and annulus (if annulus is present) and post these new detailed photographs with the accompanying information, and you will be MUCH more likely to find an identification.
Its NOT gymnopilus spectabilis if that's what your thinking...
I'm really burned out on fungi at the moment, and I have been researching other things, so sorry if I'm not very enthusiastic to provide a long detailed response, the last post before mine basically says it all.
(To take a spore print you must remove the cap, and set it face down on a blank piece of paper, allow the cap to sit undisturbed for at least 6 to 8 hours, I generally will place the cap on the paper (gills down), and leave it there until the next morning. When you remove the cap a "spore print" will be left on your paper. (Sometimes I will take 1/2 a piece of black paper and half a sheet of white paper and place the cap so it's resting with half its diameter on each color, this is for contrast or for light spored species ) ( spore prints can be taken and can be saved on aluminum foil as well )
(Its also good to have a microscope handy, when I was in the study of Panaeolus cinctulus, syn. Panaeolus subbalteatus and Panaeolina foenisecii fungi at times it was difficult to distinguish the spore prints colors from one another, one is Brown, the other is jet black, I was having issues by eye and had to place the spores under a microscope, one species has smooth spores, the other species spores have distinguishing "bumps", so this simple look under the microscope gave me a confirmed identity, you probably learned how to use a microscope in middle school, nothing here is any more complicated than that. )
-eg
entheogenic-gnosis
Rising Star
entheogenic-gnosis
Rising Star
This link provides great descriptions of identifying features, even microscopic features relating to the spores.
I'm fairly certain that what you have is Armillaria mellea...
-eg
Incal
Rising Star
I cannot help id but if you're just after psilocin/psilocybin species I note your location is similar to mine in global terms so just hold off for a few weeks then get out into the countryside or golf courses and seek the pervasive liberty caps like the rest of us in GB/ROI (after doing your research, try shroomery for example ) :twisted:
Disregard if this is not new info to you!!
Disregard if this is not new info to you!!
entheogenic-gnosis
Rising Star
kolorit said:
To incal: How do you know the OP was from the UK? Knowing the region where this fungi was found would have been helpful.
I'm thinking it may actually be Armillaria ostoyae.
Armillaria mellea has a pale yellow annulus, where Armillaria ostoyae has a white stem ring with dark brown or black scales on its underside...
I'm confident it's an Armillaria species, but as I am not all that familiar with this genus, and as the information provided was sparse, I can't say anything more.
-eg
entheogenic-gnosis
Rising Star
I can't locate where it states these were found in the UK...
It's says Europe in the post heading, and help me ID, and nothing more in the only post by the OP...
Am I missing something here?
It would have been nice to get a good picture of the annulus...
It's probably Armillaria ostoyae...
It's hard to see the annulus in any of the posted photographs, it's difficult to make out the gills as well.
the annulus does appear to be white with dark scales on its underside, making Armillaria ostoyae the more likely candidate.
Armillaria mellea has a yellow tinted annulus, but otherwise looks very similar to Armillaria ostoyae...
-eg
It's says Europe in the post heading, and help me ID, and nothing more in the only post by the OP...
Am I missing something here?
It would have been nice to get a good picture of the annulus...
It's probably Armillaria ostoyae...
It's hard to see the annulus in any of the posted photographs, it's difficult to make out the gills as well.
the annulus does appear to be white with dark scales on its underside, making Armillaria ostoyae the more likely candidate.
Armillaria mellea has a yellow tinted annulus, but otherwise looks very similar to Armillaria ostoyae...
-eg
entheogenic-gnosis
Rising Star
Never mind, I see it now.
It's under where the avatars generally is, wow, I can't believe I missed that, though to be fair very few people post their actual location in that space, so I did not really think to look there...
-eg
It's under where the avatars generally is, wow, I can't believe I missed that, though to be fair very few people post their actual location in that space, so I did not really think to look there...
-eg
downwardsfromzero
Boundary condition
Clearly a form of honey fungus, Armillaria sp.
I hope there are other species of plant and fungus that you are successfully identifying without having to post it on here
honey fungus, honey locust - I'm starting to notice a theme here
I hope there are other species of plant and fungus that you are successfully identifying without having to post it on here
honey fungus, honey locust - I'm starting to notice a theme here
downwardsfromzero said:Clearly a form of honey fungus, Armillaria sp.
I hope there are other species of plant and fungus that you are successfully identifying without having to post it on here
honey fungus, honey locust - I'm starting to notice a theme here
unfortunately i don't, no spice containing trees, and no interesting eddibble shrooms ...
if you have experience with finding these, your help or advice will be highly appreciated
entheogenic-gnosis
Rising Star
ricinante said:downwardsfromzero said:Clearly a form of honey fungus, Armillaria sp.
I hope there are other species of plant and fungus that you are successfully identifying without having to post it on here
honey fungus, honey locust - I'm starting to notice a theme here
unfortunately i don't, no spice containing trees, and no interesting eddibble shrooms ...
if you have experience with finding these, your help or advice will be highly appreciated
It really depends on where you live.
have you noticed where the majority of these DMT containing trees and plants are native to?
Because searching in areas outside where these plants can be found is generally a waste of time.
You could look for Phalaris arundinacea grass or panaeolus cinctulus fungi, which can be found growing wild in most parts of the United states...
If you want DMT containing plants buying online is your best bet, don't get me wrong, I love identifying wild plants and learning about them, but this is just for fun, if I'm looking for an entheogen I pick a plant suited to me needs and order it online.
acacia confusa rootbark, mimosa hostilis rootbark, Desmanthus leptolobus (as well as Desmanthus leptolobus seeds, this plant can grow in most parts of the United states), Delosperma cooperi, Anadenanthera seeds, etc...you have lots of choices.
-eg
Swayambhu
Rising Star
I don't like to make myself sound righteous, but as a responsible inhabitant of this planet I would ask the OP to please refrain from picking (destroying) wild organisms without knowing what they are.
That fungus could be the last of its kind, for all you know, and you've just trashed it's reproductive viability by however many thousands/millions of %.
That fungus could be the last of its kind, for all you know, and you've just trashed it's reproductive viability by however many thousands/millions of %.