[Help] Took Pharmahuasca nothing happened

[MoltonSnow]

So I decided to do Pharmahuasca today and I took 150 milligrams of rue extract 20:1 with 70mg of DMT. I read online that I needed to consume the maoi and wait, so I waited about 30 minutes before the consumption of DMT. The way I prepared the DMT was to turn it into the citrate form because I read it helped with nausea. So 15 minutes before consumption I put the 70MG into lemon juice and I waited until it was fully dissolved before I drank straight lemon juice. I don't believe the problem is the maoi I was taking as it wasn't the first time I have used it mainly for vaping. Was my timing right should I have waited more? Did I just destroy the DMT by putting it in lemon juice? I got in my bed with headphones and a blindfold on, waiting for the ally to hit me and after 3 hours it just never happened.

 

[Transform]

So I decided to do Pharmahuasca today and I took 150 milligrams of rue extract 20:1 with 70mg of DMT. I read online that I needed to consume the maoi and wait, so I waited about 30 minutes before the consumption of DMT. The way I prepared the DMT was to turn it into the citrate form because I read it helped with nausea. So 15 minutes before consumption I put the 70MG into lemon juice and I waited until it was fully dissolved before I drank straight lemon juice. I don't believe the problem is the maoi I was taking as it wasn't the first time I have used it mainly for vaping. Was my timing right should I have waited more? Did I just destroy the DMT by putting it in lemon juice? I got in my bed with headphones and a blindfold on, waiting for the ally to hit me and after 3 hours it just never happened.

The rue extract is probably weak, especially if you didn't make it yourself... smoking is a much more effective way of feeling harmala effects, but not much use for oral activation.

That said, sometimes pharmahuasca simply doesn't work. Another strategy would be to add an extra bit of rue to the DMT dose, to be more sure of effective MAO inhibition. The lemon juice will not have destroyed the DMT. How much food had you eaten in the hours preceding this attempt?

 

[Animistic]

Tbh I don't often hear of that type of rue extract to work that often. I've never tried them as I just extract them myself and never have issues, simple and safe. 120mg (my ballpark estimate of how much harmalas you consumed based on 150mg of 1:20 extract) would be felt before taking any DMT ime, for you feel anything from the rue?

 

[MoltonSnow]

The rue extract is probably weak, especially if you didn't make it yourself... smoking is a much more effective way of feeling harmala effects, but not much use for oral activation.

That said, sometimes pharmahuasca simply doesn't work. Another strategy would be to add an extra bit of rue to the DMT dose, to be more sure of effective MAO inhibition. The lemon juice will not have destroyed the DMT. How much food had you eaten in the hours preceding this attempt?

I didnt make the rue extract myself,<snip>. I didnt eat anything 12 hrs before I consumed the DMT. It was the first thing I did when I woke up.

 

[Animistic]

@MoltonSnow

Might want to edit your post re source of extract as per Attitude page: Attitude Page - DMT-Nexus Wiki

I appreciate that my post was in a grey area with respect to it too so I've edited mine.

 

[MoltonSnow]

@MoltonSnow

Might want to edit your post re source of extract as per Attitude page: Attitude Page - DMT-Nexus Wiki

I appreciate that my post was in a grey area with respect to it too so I've edited mine.

what do you mean by this comment, I took a look the listing but it got removed. Ill buy the rue seeds straight up next time how long do they last.

 

[Transform]

I didnt make the rue extract myself,<snip>. I didnt eat anything 12 hrs before I consumed the DMT. It was the first thing I did when I woke up.

Many report it's necessary to eat a little something after the DMT dose in order to stimulate the digestive system and kick absorption processes into gear. It's worth bearing in mind that some ayahuasca can be quite sweet and sugary.

Definitely just get the seeds next time. The sourcing reference has been removed from your post too

 

[Animistic]

what do you mean by this comment, I took a look the listing but it got removed. Ill buy the rue seeds straight up next time how long do they last.

No discussion on selling, buying, sourcing, acquiring, pricing, trading, receiving, distributing, mentioning pending deliveries or smuggling of drugs.

Syrian rue seeds last a real long time, harmalas are very stable so as long you store them somewhere dry they're fine. In fact they're likely more shelf stable than the extract if it's just an aqueous extract boiled down.

lol @Transform I often ferment my Aya slightly when brewing with fresh vine to cut down on how intensely sweet it is.

 

[Transform]

Syrian rue seeds last a real long time, harmalas are very stable so as long you store them somewhere dry they're fine. In fact they're likely more shelf stable than the extract if it's just an aqueous extract boiled down.

lol @Transform I often ferment my Aya slightly when brewing with fresh vine to cut down on how intensely sweet it is.

Oh, to have fresh vine!