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gigaschatten

gigaschatten

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I'm new here and I will use the spice. But I need to find out what is the best way for me to do that. So thank you in advance for all the information and the answers to my questions.
 
Best way to extract it?

Best way to smoke it?

Best source for bark?



Everyone has different opinions on all these things, Check out the many many posts throughout the forum
 
adrian89987 said:
Best way to extract it?

Best way to smoke it?

Best source for bark?
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That and the best way to deal with it.

adrian89987 said:
Everyone has different opinions on all these things, Check out the many many posts throughout the forum
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I'll do that.
 
If you're going for purity, A/B extractions are the best (i.e. rainbowserpent's New/revised practical A/B ~near perfect extraction method~ - FAQ - All your basic questions and answers - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus)

If you're going for having some DMT crystals within less than a day, then look into some straight to base teks (i.e. Noman's Erowid Mimosa (Jurema) Vault : DMT for the Masses)


There are a variety of smoking methods and everyone has their own preference.
One method that a lot of people seem to have success with is using the machine, search for the machine.

Another method is leaf-bed method, there are many many posts throughout the forum describing how to do this, do a search.




I believe there is a thread around here somewhere for mimosa hostilis vendors:


What do you mean best way to deal with it?

Good luck!
 
Thank you,

I think I'll start with smoking, so the effect duration is bearable if I get caught on the bad side. But in the long run I prefer basic purism, that's why I'm going to grow Chacruna and Yage (or maybe Harmal) myself. It's easier for me to build up a relationship with the substance if I can help and watch it grow. At least that was a good way to deal with S. divinorum with which I have a very healthy relationship.
 
Ah ok,
oral is one of the most meaningful experiences you can have...
growing it sounds like a really cool idea somethking I plan on doing in the future
 
adrian89987 said:
Ah ok,
oral is one of the most meaningful experiences you can have...
growing it sounds like a really cool idea somethking I plan on doing in the future
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Chacruna and Harmal should be pretty easy to grow, Yage could pose a bit of a problem depending on your climatic and domestic circumstances. There are lots of other options though. Personally I'll stay away from Phalaris (which grows quickly and plentifully) because of the Bufotenine portion. I know, there are ways to optimize the N,N-DMT / Bufotenine ratio, but you'll only know if that succeeded after extraction. I haven't found a source containing 5-MeO-DMT but no Bufotenine yet, which would be my preferred choice, so I'll go with Chacruna. The other plants are a bit complicated to cultivate in a major city loft.

For the oral intake I'll have to look for someone experienced enough to attend the session. Up to 5 hours can be a long time when having a bad experience. I don't think I could take a 5 hour long Salvia experience without at least temporary mental complications - at least no experience at a higher level.
 
Yea a sitter is a good idea for a first experience if you plan on going for a large dose.
My first time I didn't do a very large dose, yet large enough for 'visions' while attempting meditation.
How much experience have you tripping besides salvia?
 
adrian89987 said:
How much experience have you tripping besides salvia?
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Not much regarding psychedelic drugs, but I've got quite some experience with lucid dreaming and my Salvia experience ranges over quite a number of high and a lot more low level trips. I don't have any experience with hour long psychedelic trips but I'm planning on taking Psilocybins this summer with someone experienced before doing Ayahuasca. LSA is on my list as well.
 
At last my plant (Chacruna) has arrived and looks healthy. It'll take a while until it's big enough to harvest some material, so I guess it's time to order some dried plant material separately. Well, I'm not in a haste though, there is still a lot to read.
 
medicine 4 the mind said:
gigaschatten, did you have to learn how to lucid dream or have you always been able to do it. ive been trying for about a month now and still no luck.
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Before I got 14 I had lucid dreams and out-of-body-experiences without trying to. It was rather frightening and only when I got 30, I became interested in it again, because I had another unwanted experience and used the internet to investigate it. There I found various methods for and communities interested in lucid dreaming and OBEs. So I started to actively provoke such experiences, which was and still is quite difficult. Even with all the things I tried, the most revealing experiences occured when I didn't try at all.

On one of those forums I heard about Sage and for some reason it attracted me - I never was interested in "psychedelics" before, but this plant seemed to open a whole new world for me... and it did. I researched all about it that I could and prepared myself as good as possible. Nothing could have prepared me for its effects though. From that point, I became interested in plants as well, not only psychoactive plants, but medical herbs or simply beautiful, nice smelling or good tasting ones as well. I then tried various psychoactive plants after learning about them and - to come back to your question - the most wonderful lucid dream I had after using Nymphaea caerulea (Blue Lotus).

It allowed me to spend two hours in a lucid dream where I created reality from nothing. I found myself in a small garden that was surrounded by endless white fog when suddenly I realized "Hey, I'm dreaming!" I never heard anywhere that N. caerula can have such effects so I was very surprised. I used it for hedonistic reasons, to experience it's opiate like effects that are great indeed, so I consider the "side effect" a great unexpected gift.

I also tried a very high dose of Calea zacatechichi. It did nothing for me but taste awful, the worst thing I've ever tasted.

Sage was very helpful with dream recall and lucid dreaming. At times those secondary effects seemed to become too much to bear and many nights I woke up from a dream, soaked in sweat with my heart beating rapidly. I didn't get much rest in those nights. I had to give it a break and after about three months the effects faded, yet my dream recall is still very clear.

When I try to have lucid dreams on purpose now, I simply go to bed with the intent to do so and after a few hours of sleep there is a good chance I become lucid. As I read, for most people it works best after they had some rest already. When I try to lucid dream by keeping my consciousness aware, I don't get to dreaming at all, but fall into a state of trance, having all kinds of hypnagogic sensations, mostly very frightening ones.

I can't tell you how to lucid dream, you've got to find your own way. Everyone's different, but now you know my story.
 
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