Dwhitty76 said:
I've never taken aya but i imagine it would a lot easier to make sense of the experience rather than a 10min blast into hyperspace,sometimes it's hard to process what happened.Which is why swim is thinking of using dmt on a more regular basis,just to help him make heads and tales of these re-occuring themes and being's.
Swim wants to take aya but would like to take it with a guide or shaman first.For some reason it doesnt seem right for swim to make the brew himself and drink it in his townhouse and lay on his couch.Would think it to be more beneficial and greater learnig experience to take it in the jungle with a shaman.
This is something you can do by yourself! Many, many people do aya alone before they spend the $2000+ to venture to Peru to experience it with a shaman. If you work very slowly with the brew you will build a relationship with her. Please don't feel it can only be done successfully without a ayahuasquerro (currandero's or "shaman"). Building a relationship with Madre Aya is a very personal thing...it takes time, patience, and dedication. An ayahuasquerro is very helpful, but not 100% necessary to experience aya.
I completely agree that doing it in your apartment is maybe not the best setting. Getting out in the woods is a much better place to experience it. Camping anyone?
Aya...that's DMT's big brother.
Aya can show you things DMT can't because aya lasts much longer than DMT."
I believe that Ayahuasca is much, much more than orally active DMT. It's amazing healing power and visonary abilities come from the vine interacting with the light (dmt containing plants). The vine itself is visonary. If one takes a good dose of the vine they will have visions, albeit not as bright or clear as a brew with DMT in it, hence it being called "the light". I believe it can show you things that DMT can't because:
A) the vine is guiding you to places you need to be
B) the experience is slowed down (not warp speed) because of the MAOIs
C) DMT is unruly at times, the vine keeps this unruliness under some control (mimosa is the execption to this, but then again Mimosa + Caapi is not traditional Aya).
I personally very much believe that the vine helps guide one through the experience. Rue doesn't do that, only Caapi does (at least in all my experiences and the experiences of many others). I can feel a presence when I take the vine (with or without DMT containing plants). This is just my personal opinion, but Aya is so much more than orally active DMT.