How to integrate Breakthrough DMT into real life...

[cire113]

Ok; After breaking through I got to experience the God "head"..

Basically we are all ONE... I know many of you know what i am speaking


This happened a few weeks ago; and it was an amazing discovery; but how can i integrate this into my illusioned life in this reality? When i say my i mean my false "ego".. who i think i am;

but i know i really am true spirit in essence; The core of my being is the pure "self" that is in all


I feel like ive been showed something very few people experience or realize in this world...

I cant quite figure out how to apply it into reality; If this spirit is in all of us;

Surely there is a way to tap into its unlimited power and help our intuition and decision making?

 

[dreamer042]

As always Calvin sums it up well.

When you look into infinity, you realize that there are more important things than what people do all day

What I gained from my breakthrough experiences is the perspective that I am indeed an eternal and infinite being and that the precious momentary eyeblink of eternity I get to spend in this earthwalk truly is a blessing.

And of course in the end the only thing that really matters is the time we spent staring at the stars and looking under rocks in the creek with the people (or tigers) we love.

 

[VIII]

It took me quite a while to really process my stronger and godhead experiences. I prescribe myself a healthy dose of skepticism, time, and alternate perspectives. I'll apply the theme/idea/vision/concept/feelings of the experience to different idea and perspective templates as my perspective is changed over time. Music has definitely helped a lot for integration (a number of differing perspectives from a good number of people on similar substances) but all of my life's experiences have helped me cultivate my hyperspace experiences. It is an ongoing effort/joyride.

You have only the here and now to express your infinite potential. The source belongs to all, including you. Give all you can from it and don't hold it back. Create your self, create your imagination, create some artwork, create a conversation, love what you have, do what you can, be all you can be, the decisions are yours.

 

[cire113]

great advice guys; just enjoy the now and do what makes your soul live!

ive started studying mindfullness and mediation since my breakthrough hardcore;

 

[○]

great advice guys; just enjoy the now and do what makes your soul live!

ive started studying mindfullness and mediation since my breakthrough hardcore;

You just answered your own thread brother :thumb_up:

Do whatever it is in your day to day existence that brings about that supreme feeling of happiness and the serenity of 'being in the moment', where time ceases and you are there, totally immersed in the present moment. Do this as much as you possibly can every day. Music, hiking, meditating, reading, exercise, helping people, or what-have-you. Everything drops away, and your here, right now...experiencing...bliss. That is life.

Tat Tvam Asi

 

[cire113]

Yes! I Think this life was really made for our enjoyment; when you realize the time and effort that must have put into such a nice reality....

It is difficult to break away from paradigms that have shaped life from family,society, and cultural for so many years;

But it is liberating to realize we have power to do what we love;


Ive always wondered throughout my whole life how come in things i enjoy the most there is no time and it melts away; now it all makes sense to me;


Ill be honest my greatest difficulty is obtaining enough resources to do what i love. YOu know the fake resources that we need to survive like money, food, water, shelter, etc... BEcoming an independent person financially

I guess the goal is to do work i love and earn through that;

Freedom ; I guess ill start trying to figure it out now!

I hate to be binded by money though; It only matters up to a certain point that I understand..... and i guess is only a tool;

I guess its necessary in the world we live in today?

 

[Praxis.]

Ill be honest my greatest difficulty is obtaining enough resources to do what i love. YOu know the fake resources that we need to survive like money, food, water, shelter, etc... BEcoming an independent person financially

I guess the goal is to do work i love and earn through that;

Freedom ; I guess ill start trying to figure it out now!

I hate to be binded by money though; It only matters up to a certain point that I understand..... and i guess is only a tool;

I guess its necessary in the world we live in today?

I've been struggling with this a lot lately myself. I found that for my own personal development/outlook, it did not take long to integrate my breakthrough experiences. Meditation was absolutely essential for me though, and helped me immensely in integrating and finding my own unique path.
But it's easy to be happy with yourself with this kind of knowledge, but it's a completely different matter when it comes to actually living your life accordingly. The world we live in makes it very difficult, and yet my experience tells me that the "world we live in" doesn't really matter. (By the world we live in, I mean our cultural paradigms and our attachment to concepts)
I've recently made some major changes in my life that I believe to be for the better. Now, because of what I've learned during my experiences, I know that the choices I've made are inherently for the better and are the "right" thing to do. But by no stretch of the imagination are the choices I've made logical.
Most of my friends and the vast majority of my family does not understand my lifestyle, and openly question it. But you can't let this distract you, and you can't harbor any ill-will. They are the one's who are missing out on this beautiful perspective.
Live the life that is most fulfilling to you and the universe will take care of the rest. I genuinely believe all it really comes down to is a conscious choice and the motivation to follow through. The world could be a much better place if people had a little more self worth and didn't put so much faith into external forces.
Life is not a test; it is an amazing opportunity. See it for what it is and take advantage of it, don't let the ignorance and delusions of others weigh you down. Everyone sees in time.

O, Alas! Alas! Fortunate Child of Buddha Nature,
Do not be oppressed by the forces of ignorance and delusion!
But rise up now with resolve and courage!
Entranced by ignorance, from beginningless time until now,
You have had [more than] enough time to sleep.
So do not slumber any longer, but strive after virtue with body, speech and mind!

Are you oblivious to the sufferings of birth, old age, sickness and death?
There is no guarantee that you will survive, even past this very day!
The time has come [for you] to develop perseverance in [your] practice.

For, at this singular opportunity, you could attain the everlasting bliss [of nirvana].
So now is [certainly] not the time to sit idly,
But, starting with [the reflection on] death, you should bring your practice to completion!

The moments of our life are not expendable,
And the [possible] circumstances of death are beyond imagination.
If you do not achieve an undaunted confident security now,
What point is there in your being alive, O living creature?

 

[Global]

Here's the way I like to think about it, and I know I've mentioned it around these parts a number of times, but I think it bears repeating. The issue is very much a matter of perceptual processing. Let's take for example a triangle. There are two basic ways to perceive this triangle. You can see it analytically, as its discrete components (3 distinct lines) or it can be perceived holistically/symbolically as 1 triangle (a whole polygon). Similarly we can perceive the universe as ourselves along with all the other humans and animals, and plants and "stuff" in the universe as all being distinct and separate from each other (analytical) or the universe can be perceived as one whole universe. I think this really fits into the whole left brain/right brain theory quite nicely and is worth researching, and its important to realize that as linguistic humans, we tend to be left brain dominant (analytical). The left brain's style of logical processing is "either or". Things are either this way or that way. The right brain style of processing is "both and" logic. Things can be both this way and that way. They can exist in two states at the same time. So the universe is both at once a whole universe as well as a culmination of its individual components. The trap to constantly fall for in this area but all throughout life in general is that things either are one way or another. When you really come to internalize that lesson, life opens up in a big way.

 

[cire113]

Here's the way I like to think about it, and I know I've mentioned it around these parts a number of times, but I think it bears repeating. The issue is very much a matter of perceptual processing. Let's take for example a triangle. There are two basic ways to perceive this triangle. You can see it analytically, as its discrete components (3 distinct lines) or it can be perceived holistically/symbolically as 1 triangle (a whole polygon). Similarly we can perceive the universe as ourselves along with all the other humans and animals, and plants and "stuff" in the universe as all being distinct and separate from each other (analytical) or the universe can be perceived as one whole universe. I think this really fits into the whole left brain/right brain theory quite nicely and is worth researching, and its important to realize that as linguistic humans, we tend to be left brain dominant (analytical). The left brain's style of logical processing is "either or". Things are either this way or that way. The right brain style of processing is "both and" logic. Things can be both this way and that way. They can exist in two states at the same time. So the universe is both at once a whole universe as well as a culmination of its individual components. The trap to constantly fall for in this area but all throughout life in general is that things either are one way or another. When you really come to internalize that lesson, life opens up in a big way.

I am trying to understand what your saying; So basically your saying things in life and the universe arent just black and white? That there are many possibilities possible at once?

Could you give me a life example of what you mean by this? A way to incorporate ?

Forgive me if I misunderstood you; I am just trying to understand your point;

I think you mean not to view myself as just "me" and really as the whole universe working as one? SO thinking of terms of larger than myself and more in view of the whole "universe" ?

 

[Global]

Here's the way I like to think about it, and I know I've mentioned it around these parts a number of times, but I think it bears repeating. The issue is very much a matter of perceptual processing. Let's take for example a triangle. There are two basic ways to perceive this triangle. You can see it analytically, as its discrete components (3 distinct lines) or it can be perceived holistically/symbolically as 1 triangle (a whole polygon). Similarly we can perceive the universe as ourselves along with all the other humans and animals, and plants and "stuff" in the universe as all being distinct and separate from each other (analytical) or the universe can be perceived as one whole universe. I think this really fits into the whole left brain/right brain theory quite nicely and is worth researching, and its important to realize that as linguistic humans, we tend to be left brain dominant (analytical). The left brain's style of logical processing is "either or". Things are either this way or that way. The right brain style of processing is "both and" logic. Things can be both this way and that way. They can exist in two states at the same time. So the universe is both at once a whole universe as well as a culmination of its individual components. The trap to constantly fall for in this area but all throughout life in general is that things either are one way or another. When you really come to internalize that lesson, life opens up in a big way.

I am trying to understand what your saying; So basically your saying things in life and the universe arent just black and white? That there are many possibilities possible at once?

Could you give me a life example of what you mean by this? A way to incorporate ?

Forgive me if I misunderstood you; I am just trying to understand your point;

I think you mean not to view myself as just "me" and really as the whole universe working as one? SO thinking of terms of larger than myself and more in view of the whole "universe" ?

This idea can be incorporated into any number of "arguments" or debates. All too often when assessing a debate or polemical issue, a natural human inclination is to try to find an example supporting one side or another, and unfortunately the line is often drawn all too quickly. I'll give you an example. A number of my friends and I were discussing certain types of jazz music (particularly the more unorthodox kinds), and it came to the discussion as to whether some of this "music" really was music or not. Inevitably half the people thought of music like it that was music and concluded that it was music, and the other half thought of things like it that didn't sound like music (as well as other music that doesn't sound anything like it) and therefore concluded it wasn't music. Now we often feel as if there is a choice that has to be made, but couldn't it be both music and not music at the same time? Seeming paradoxes are resolved through enhanced scope. I think its very much about scope. I think I could probably elaborate further and with more coherent examples, but I think an important and critical part of the integration process stems from connecting those dots yourself, so I hope that perhaps the framework that I've provided might be a nice guiding hand. There are many layers to the core philosophical concepts that lie at the heart of DMT breakthroughs, so it ends up requiring a lot of reflection.

 

[VIII]

Ill be honest my greatest difficulty is obtaining enough resources to do what i love. YOu know the fake resources that we need to survive like money, food, water, shelter, etc... BEcoming an independent person financially

I guess the goal is to do work i love and earn through that;

Freedom ; I guess ill start trying to figure it out now!

I hate to be binded by money though; It only matters up to a certain point that I understand..... and i guess is only a tool;

I guess its necessary in the world we live in today?

This is definitely an issue shared by many. Some things we are helpless over (except in our small, but directed way) and must accept to an extent imo. My personal perception of how things should be is irrelevant imo, the "public consciousness" and systems in place work on their own scales. I try to focus more on how things are and where I can go from there. Reflect or explore, that sort of thing.

I think you mean not to view myself as just "me" and really as the whole universe working as one? SO thinking of terms of larger than myself and more in view of the whole "universe" ?

My personal take on this perspective tends to be more along the lines of "I" is part of the self that I have created. The self I have created is mine, my perspective. The "me" is shared by everything, the ultimate source shared by all. I suppose it was, for me, more of a realization that this source is not some shared evolutionary ancestor lost under the ground somewhere awaiting discovery. The source is very much a part of me today and recently I've been playing with the idea that it is this source from which creative potential still flows.

 

[cire113]

Thanks for the help guys..

Also is it normal to have no desire to take any more psychedelics when u got what u were searching for?

I just feel as if I was shown the inner workings life and the universal conscioness

That this knowledge should somehow enrich my little life I had to return to;

I appreciate all the thoughts and help....

DMT is crazy powerful I had no clue it was direct Access to the source

 

[○]

Thanks for the help guys..

Also is it normal to have no desire to take any more psychedelics when u got what u were searching for?

Certainly. It can take a long time for some, some shorter, and some not at all. I know most will say that psychedelics (especially DMT) will give you more questions than answers, and this I 'sort of' agree with, but I find (especially on the really deep n' trying experiences) that it will give you what you need at that point in time, no doubt, but every journey is laden with an intense meaning that for sone, is hard to swallow. Once you accept the meaning, accept the message/s, once you "know", id say the desire tunes down a few notches and you begin to focus on your life "here" moreso.

 

[VIII]

Thanks for the help guys..

Also is it normal to have no desire to take any more psychedelics when u got what u were searching for?

Certainly. It can take a long time for some, some shorter, and some not at all. I know most will say that psychedelics (especially DMT) will give you more questions than answers, and this I 'sort of' agree with, but I find (especially on the really deep n' trying experiences) that it will give you what you need at that point in time, no doubt, but every journey is laden with an intense meaning that for sone, is hard to swallow. Once you accept the meaning, accept the message/s, once you "know", id say the desire tunes down a few notches and you begin to focus on your life "here" moreso.

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Nicely said. I see my collection of answers as my perspective, with my questions leading between the gaps and pushing deeper into or extrapolating concepts. DMT does a lot of the latter, exposes where I was clearly wrong and opens up doors that had been locked in my mind. Once I figure out where my perspective opened up I direct myself down those paths to explore.

It is like going in you have built a box (perspective) of "reality has these limits" and then when the limits are pushed beyond the box you are forced to rebuild. Having a worldview shattered in/is an emotionally strong experience definitely gets my curiosity going to see just what might be possible beyond the broken whole/half/side/part of my box.

Eventually I've rebuilt my box (perspective) with larger dimensions of "reality has these limits" and settle into it nicely. This is when I usually partake in psychedelics again and push my boundaries further. I like to keep pushing so I don't get lost wandering around in or trying to perfect my box and forget that there is a whole unknown world out there awaiting me.
Lately I have tried to remove the limits to my reality box, but I'm not entirely sure how to pull that off. I know what I know, it is bound to have a limit but at the same time I am infinite and seemingly trying to express my infinite potential.

As for spacing out psychedelic experience it all comes down to how you feel about it at the time, but it is common to take long breaks between experiences. I haven't had a off the walls strong DMT breakthrough in nearly a year, but on "random" occasions I have had "threshold," small and sub-breakthrough doses of DMT as well as some LSD trips. I'm still actively integrating my past breakthroughs, but once they have formed to myself a bit better (still learning new lessons from the experiences) I will be happy to take the plunge into the depths and reach new heights.

 

[Guyomech]

My tripping career started almost 25 years ago, and at this point I'm still integrating some of the big ones from decades back. Once your perspective is changed to that extent, it will affect your everyday life experience from that point on. This can be a good thing, though. That sense of universal oneness, of the connectivity of everything, is a valuable perspective in day to day living.

For example, I know that in one sense you are a part of me. So if I attack you, I attack myself. If I am good to you, I'm being good to my deeper self. And although I don't always succeed in living according to this perspective, it's still been very helpful for me. I started out life as quite the angry young man, and although some of the intensity behind that remains, it has been largely redirected toward more constructive things. And when I do lose my temper now, it's over pretty much right away, where before I could stew on some trivial thing pretty much indefinitely.

As far as having no need to go back, you're not alone in that. Get the message, hang up the phone, as they say within the psych scene. You may oneday again feel the calling, but not necessarily. Either way, I'd like to welcome you into this community of explorers and seekers. May your journey be a productive one, and I hope we can help provide you with some useful reference points.

 

[voyaj]

DMT has definitely been the most difficult psychedelic to integrate for me. My first breakthrough was akin to someone close, in this instance me, dying. Or breaking up with a girlfriend I had for years that I loved immensely. Regular thought processes and life in general can be thrown off from your normal routine in the aftermath.

Everyone is different but I cannot stress enough that breakthrough doses are not something to mess around with. Some of us handle it better than others.

Luckily, my first breakthrough, after being brought to pieces and having my consciouness disconnected. I floated up into a very real world of ultimate power, where harmonizing and chanting seemed to be a focal point as I was taught all of my faults. They also pointed out that I am bad at singing, haha, which I am. They told me to live perfectly, to be immaculate.

On my way back, they basically reconstructed the Earth and said, this is fragile, you belong here this is a special place. Channel light and do not take this life lightly.

I never really believed in life after death... DMT was the thump on the head I needed to really see it manifest in a real way, to really believe that there is so much more to life. I never really had faith in anything but after some intense spice experiences I have faith that we will live again. The idea of reincarnation or whatever it may be... always seemed like a nightmare to me, spice taught me that more than likely it will be great when we die, but that this life is of utmost importance, right now.

I think about those experience everyday. I am lucky to be alive and on this planet. It gets easier to integrate overtime, just as it is breaking up with someone you loved with all of your being. These experiences can really put you in the throes of figuring out how to make your own life as well as the world a better place; if you wish to put the work required into it. And after the experiences I have had, it is not only something I want to do, it is something that I know I have to do.

 

[Mokeke]

I had my first DMT breakthrough three days ago and I'm still trying to comprehend It.
Is it common to feel overwhelmed for a while?
All the homework and research I have done didn't prepare me for "DMT WORLD"
IV never been so hopelessly scared but same time feeling like I'd been there before,and at a brief moment everything made sense. It was like I was experienceing every memory that is stored in my brain all in a few moments.

I wasn't a person and wasn't restricted by dimensions, physics, or any laws of our natural world.
It was so complex in every sense, but also so much confined all at once.
I'm in AWE !!!!!!

 

[splifey]

Here's the answer. Love all unconditionally, because they are you.(just like in a dream, they are all you) If you love people you are bringing them to the truth , and when you do that the whole feels good, which make you feel good(because you are the whole on another scale).


Money, you use that for food, water, electricy ect ect
Its so easy to farm these resources, A magnetic motor isn't hard to make with gears and iron as a shield , attached to a Dc motor for electricity. And Water you can get from any river or sea. If you want gas, use electricity to seperate h20 into hydrogen, and you have gas. Just be creative, there are many many many many ways. You are now a creative being, which they take from us early. A creative being is a what people call a genius in this society, Now APPLY!!

 

[splifey]

My tripping career started almost 25 years ago, and at this point I'm still integrating some of the big ones from decades back. Once your perspective is changed to that extent, it will affect your everyday life experience from that point on. This can be a good thing, though. That sense of universal oneness, of the connectivity of everything, is a valuable perspective in day to day living.

For example, I know that in one sense you are a part of me. So if I attack you, I attack myself. If I am good to you, I'm being good to my deeper self. And although I don't always succeed in living according to this perspective, it's still been very helpful for me. I started out life as quite the angry young man, and although some of the intensity behind that remains, it has been largely redirected toward more constructive things. And when I do lose my temper now, it's over pretty much right away, where before I could stew on some trivial thing pretty much indefinitely.

As far as having no need to go back, you're not alone in that. Get the message, hang up the phone, as they say within the psych scene. You may oneday again feel the calling, but not necessarily. Either way, I'd like to welcome you into this community of explorers and seekers. May your journey be a productive one, and I hope we can help provide you with some useful reference points.

See? i'm not the only one that gets it, when you love people, your loving yourself. Love is the way. If you deny your love to people because of something your ego formulated from an experience in this illusion, your keeping yourself in the dark. We need to fix this problem.
Remember most people here are being conditioned and mind controlled to be fucked up. So LOVE THEM secretly , they don't even have to know about you... Love will do what it has to do. And guys START COMMUNICATING WITH THE HIGHER SCALE, ITS ALL AROUND YOU!

When you have a correct intention you would hear something like a dog bark at that very moment, or another person talking in the phone confirm your intentions.thought/ Because they are connected to you!! Practice this, and you will realize the nature of this reality.

 

[infinitynlove]

great advice guys; just enjoy the now and do what makes your soul live!

ive started studying mindfullness and mediation since my breakthrough hardcore;

^^^ i couldn’t agree more, 3rd eye meditation gives you that connection to the infinite hopefully confirming what you discovered on DMT.

Meditation changes you for the better, you become more peaceful, kind, loving etc then the former you gradually dissolves into the new more realized you. Some call this process self realization, getting to know ones true self...

Its what I am into anyway, hope this helps, best of luck with whatever you to do, I believe that all paths, if followed diligently, ultimately lead to the same goal.

Peace