Yessss the quality hazelnut spread aya tek is coming ; )
@ Nolo, I think it feels there a lot of things to figure out but it’s not that complicated, just work slow and and low and up the dose over multiple trips to a comfortable level.
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How to make pharmahuasca hit reliably
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@ Nolo, I think it feels there a lot of things to figure out but it’s not that complicated, just work slow and and low and up the dose over multiple trips to a comfortable level.
One more thing, I wonder if you're more scared of it not working, or of it working too well?
Both things, I want it to work, but the dose is comfortable for me, I want to be able to adjust the doses well to my comfort, and as I read that with 0.5g of mimosa root the trip can already be strong and that minimal7 grams of mimosa root per serving, hence why you are confused
Now I need to take a pharmahuasca journey.
Only issue is that I depleted all my DMT-fumarate so DMT-citrate will be the salt of choice.
I'll check if I have some nice Caapi extract and will use that for the journey.
It's finally time.
Kind regards,
The Traveler
Only issue is that I depleted all my DMT-fumarate so DMT-citrate will be the salt of choice.
I'll check if I have some nice Caapi extract and will use that for the journey.
It's finally time.
Kind regards,
The Traveler
I found your post really helpful. Wanted to clarify: is your dosing using fumarate, rather than freebase?
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A little bit of soda and a croissant is the answer?! I support this!
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I take 2g of syrian rue in capsules, and 30min after 1.5g of AC in capsules… if I do want more journey, when I feel that it is loosing potency, I then do (3 hours after) 1g SR + 1g AC…
No nausea…
deeMte
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Yeah I guess I gotta learn some lessons the hard way lol.
I started low at 35mg, went straight to 40mg then 50, and stayed there for a couple of weeks. All was swell.
Then I started to push it.
60 was still easy, 70 was fine one day and “interesting” the next. I played here for a week or so, some days were a failure to launch and some were juuust right.
I had already figured out by this point that my stomach contents on any day would govern that afternoons trip. Yesterday I ate the same small breakfast that I did today and yesterday’s dose of 80mg was a non event. I put that down to a rushed rue boil.
Today I was adamant that I was going to launch so I boiled up the rue with the patience of a saint.
I did the old “lil bit more” on the scale with the dmt and the last I looked it was at 89mg so I switched it off and dropped the last bunch of crumbs off the razor blade.
Well it started really slowly. I didn’t even lay down for at least 45 minutes and when I did I wasn’t getting a great deal. Eventually I got into a nice relaxed state with some focus on my breathing but it was pretty much what I’d expect from 40-50mg. I was kinda disappointed but I made the most of it and enjoyed the next hour even though I was still trying to figure out where I went wrong today.
I thought it was over, I even got up and did a couple of quick chores. Then it actually kicked in. Straight back to my prone position!
Started off great but I soon realised I was not steering this one..
God damn, this was basically a 2hr+ breakthrough tier trip.
I got dragged through the coals so to speak.
I won’t bore you with the details but I faced some tough realities today. The kind that make you realise you’re an ungrateful piece of shit for ever feeling anything but absolutely blessed. I am blessed and I should be forever grateful. Lesson learned.
I’m off to continue counting my blessings, while I figure out a sustainable way that I can help those less fortunate than I.
In the end this was all that was asked of me.
Just came here to say that it would be wise of you to heed OP’s warning because while it won’t get you every time, it will get you
Drinking coca-cola with something that often cleanses you out in the form of purging sounds kinda gross tbh
I always took the harmalas/rue/caapi a minute or two before the dmt and then ate a few bites of banana. It's always worked fine once I figured out the amounts I liked. There's a lot of individual variation it seems. Some people should really start slow because they get flattened by 100mg harmalas and small amounts of DMT
I always took the harmalas/rue/caapi a minute or two before the dmt and then ate a few bites of banana. It's always worked fine once I figured out the amounts I liked. There's a lot of individual variation it seems. Some people should really start slow because they get flattened by 100mg harmalas and small amounts of DMT
DeltaSpice
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Had many fails with pharma caapi alks + spice in a capsule . My last experience, nothing was happening until i ate a packet of ready salted crisps. Then it was bombs away.
Correct me if I am wrong, but it appears that this widespread "DMT not hitting in pharmahuasca" phenomenon is happening when using freebase DMT instead of a salt form in a tea (as in a simple plant brew). Not that it never happens with a tea, but the likelihood is skyrocketed when using freebase DMT. I only drink plant brews and I can't recall a digestion problem even once among thousands of experiences. I won't fight against the current here, but will simply share my own perspective that being on an empty stomach and not eating anything after drinking is a fundamental pillar for this practice for me.
Edit, seems like a bit redundant post from me as I just now checked my earlier reply. Apologize for that. It might not be just about the form of DMT indeed, the other ingredients in natural whole plant brews might also be stimulating digestion, as I wrote in my earlier post.
Edit, seems like a bit redundant post from me as I just now checked my earlier reply. Apologize for that. It might not be just about the form of DMT indeed, the other ingredients in natural whole plant brews might also be stimulating digestion, as I wrote in my earlier post.
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Sicho Naut
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My experience is limited, but I believe that using capsules for the DMT freebase is also part of it often not hitting. I have both drank MHRB tea and consumed the residue of evaporated MHRB tea/alcohol tincture in a capsule and the capsules often caused issues, like taking hours to kick in (even when eating something 20-40 minutes or so after ingestion). None of that happened when I drank the stuff. The freebase form definitely seems to be a factor as well, but I expect that if people were to drink DMT fumarate instead of swallowing in capsules that it would hit a lot more reliably.
Once I consumed my MHRB alcohol tincture residue like this: a) chew a small piece of bread with honey, b) take the chewed clump out of your mouth, c) put the residue in the clump and 'close' it, d) swallow the bread clump containing the residue with a bit of water, like you would a pill. This worked really well, way better than the capsules. I'd be interested to hear about people trying this with DMT fumarate or even freebase. [If anyone does try this, make sure the bread piece is very small to avoid a choking hazard.]
It's the general problem with capsules. Not all capsules are created equally, too.
Capsules are an easy method of ingestion, but it's far from optimal in my opinion.
I never had a difficulty with a properly made tea. The only issue is that teas are not just DMT.
Mimosa & Acacia have lots of other goodies inside and affect the experience much more than extracted spice.
I'd argue that working with teas is quite different to pharma.
This is awesome advice!!
Today I ate 50mg of THC and 50mg of CBD suspended in 1ml of oil, usually this dosage is very lacklustre for what it should be, however, today straight after dosing, I went and got a big bag of hot chips.
About an hour or so later I’m sitting in the office at my desk staring at the roof and my screen tryna figure out why I’m so high, I sat there for hours tryna do 1 quote, lol
Realised it must be cause I hate straight after but didn’t think that the fact it was carbs also adds to it so I’m glad I coincidentally found this post.
In the case of THC, having food with fats such as chips probably also helps it to be absorbed better, even if you already had some oil.
By the way, regarding the original topic, I used to eat a small piece of bread after pharmahuasca. Now I don't anymore, and it still hits reliably, I think in part because I'm in a fasted state. It seems to vary a lot between people.
I feel fortunate. Pharma has always hit for me. 150mg encapsulated harmalas, followed by DMT 30 minutes later. Hits everytime. I will however play around with carbs after both harmala ingestion and DMT ingestion, to see if theres a qualitative difference.
One love
Edit: I dissolve my freebase DMT in lemon water.
One love
Edit: I dissolve my freebase DMT in lemon water.
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I am curious how critical the diet is in the hours prior to pharmahuasca, and how many hours of fasting. When I do vaporhuasca, diet/fast doesn't seem to matter much, but I'm struggling to make the full oral route work out well. In the middle of the night, I woke up, probably 5ish hours after eating something last, and made a capsule with 286mg of harmalas (203 harmine fb + 20mg harmaline fb + 63mg THH), and then at +41 minutes, I took capsule with 95mg dmt fumarate, no cola or lemon juice, just a small amount of water. At +125 minutes, things seemed to be coming on like a wave, with vibrant CEVs, and then I felt cold and shivering, and maybe 10 minutes later felt warm and comfortable but it's like someone closed the cosmos faucet to a trickle. I'm thinking of trying some of my re-x freebase dmt that I only have experience vaping thus far, but I know it's good and reliable, which I cannot say for the fumarate.
I want to try again later today, and would be glad to listen to any advice from someone reading this, although I know everyone is different how they metabolize etc.
I want to try again later today, and would be glad to listen to any advice from someone reading this, although I know everyone is different how they metabolize etc.
It varies a lot from people to people. Your dose and timing sounds right (assuming you're not particularly insensitive to it). Try with a longer fast to see if it works better. I try to leave at least 12 hours, but when I have left only 6 it hasn't been a problem in my case. If it still doesn't work well, try having a slice of bread with it.
I just wanted to follow up on this topic, and confirm similar results. 220mg freebase harmalas in shot of coke with some fresh squeezed lemon, then ate half an orange. 35 minutes later I was feeling the harmalas. i then took 65mg crystally white dmt freebase in another shot of coke/lemon, and the other half orange, and then a croissant. within 15 minutes I was experiencing unavoidable OEVs and CEVs, and everything rapidly escalated to intensely beautiful trip. If in a good state of mind and more preparation involved for the setting, I could see higher dose of each being good, but honestly this was quite intense as it was. This was pleasant surprise after considerably slower/less effects from higher doses of same harmalas by capsule, and higher doses of dmt fumarate by capsule, and i found nothing negative about the taste or aftertaste with coke/lemon/fresh orange, nor did I have nausea. there was about 60 minutes of peak, then another 60 minutes in and out, and after another 4 hours i was able to fall asleep. Here's my trip report if you're interested. Bottom line: I'm a big fan of the pharmahuasca experience, and these methods to get there.