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Hows this look? My first time but possible film under pure whit crystals...
Seems to mainly be on the corner/ side where vm&p (sunny side brand) was poured out the 6x8 pyrex. Naptha dont seem strong and it was new. Had second shot glass from other pulls its the same tried to get out of the glass is a failing attempt. Never done this or product but for the last 2 years now I've had a calling/feeling to do it. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks again!
fractals4life
Titanium Teammate
The crystals look great! The slight film is possibly just the oily / waxy polymorph of DMT if you started with MHRB and used freeze precipition rather than full evaporation.
If so it will harden up with a little time and can be scraped up and used like the crystals.
To double check, do an evaporation test by letting 1ml of your fresh naphtha evaporate off some clean glass and see if you get anything left over.
If so it will harden up with a little time and can be scraped up and used like the crystals.
To double check, do an evaporation test by letting 1ml of your fresh naphtha evaporate off some clean glass and see if you get anything left over.
I'm not a definitive expert, but I don't think oily / waxy is a polymorph. I agree with you it's still DMT, but that might not be the right word for it.
I think polymorph requires a morphology, a solid crystal pattern. Doesn't apply to DMT dissolved in a liquid, oily DMT, or waxy coatings. A film under the crystals seems pretty common. There's something called "oiling out" which can happen to a lot of crystallizing substances when the solubility drops faster than the molecules can assimilate. Molecules can accumulate into tiny droplets of liquid DMT as they come out of solution, and fall to the bottom. Probably due to the temperature dropping too fast if you put a saturated dish straight into the freezer.
I think polymorph requires a morphology, a solid crystal pattern. Doesn't apply to DMT dissolved in a liquid, oily DMT, or waxy coatings. A film under the crystals seems pretty common. There's something called "oiling out" which can happen to a lot of crystallizing substances when the solubility drops faster than the molecules can assimilate. Molecules can accumulate into tiny droplets of liquid DMT as they come out of solution, and fall to the bottom. Probably due to the temperature dropping too fast if you put a saturated dish straight into the freezer.
I will check the sunnyside vm&p now. Would assume its good? Straight from the company and the msds shows Its true naptha. Just wondered if there was an easy way to do a wash or something because of the sticking to the glass? Picture is of the pulls 1-3 of 20g of bark. Other pulls really produced nothing, probably due to pre acid stage with mild root bark powder. Tried Morton canning salt type tek and a more basic stb hybrid. I appreciate your help! I may do the other using a different tek, any ideas? Also possibly try ronsonol fluid but this yellow bottle doesn't show naptha just light petroleum distillate? Msds show naptha though.
This is my first time doing this in all aspects. The tek i used was a hybrid that i mixed/pieced together. I only used about 20g for the pull you see. Still 30g in a mason jar that has sat 3 days ready for naptha. And 50g bark not used yet, waiting on suggestions.
Step 1: constantly stirring every 10-15min. For couple hours warmed by hot bath in a mason jar in a crock pot.
* 50g root bark powder ( not fine) total.
* 400ml steam distilled infant h20.
* 100 ml distilled white vinegar.
***Ph level was around 2.
Step 2: after 2 hours of the low heat hot h20 bath I let the jar cool down. I then added-
* 40g Morton canning salt ( Not sure if necessary? ). In separate warm infant steam distilled h20 stir till mostly disolved and dumped to mixture.
* In separate measuring cup added warm h20 and slowly added a total of 30g. 100% lye crystal ronsol slowly added and stirred.
* Mixed together with bark concentrate ph 13-14 On a test strip. Pretty black liquid not much bark to see.
* Slowly spin agitated h20 mixture every 10 to 20 mins, not shaking. Let sit over night.
* Transferred 20g bark mixture to a glass clear bottle ( like beer bottle). Left 30g mixture in mason jar to perform separate extract incase of errors.
* Added 50ml Naptha to bark jar. Agitated twirl liquid around (still room temp ) and used a 8" thin glass pipette to pull naptha layer. Did this 3 separate cycles, combined 3 pulls together and placed into a pyrex frozen 8x8 sealed pyrex container.
*** Ph 13-14 slight color blind so strips are close? Liquid was black and pretty much all original mildly fine, powder bark is almost completely disolved now.
** You can see final outcome, no water wash ( except a separate shot glass pull), and a sticky residue that breaks down the crystals easily when scraping. Pulls 4 & 5 i did h20 wash and freeze it produced 2-3 super small yellowish crystals? Couldn't get crystals out of the shot glass due to sticking to the blade. I added about a quarter of naptha to the shot glass, disolved mini yellowish crystals and now re- freezing shot glass.
** I still have about 50g. Root bark powder not fine dust. I set this aside incase I messed up. If I did anything wrong or if you can suggest a different tek please lmk? I try your suggestion for my 2nd ever attempt. Thanks everyone! Going to try the crystals for the first ever time tonight, as long as I can get off the glass but having issues hence the questions lol. This is by far not my first trip (shrooms,lsd,pcp,lsa etc).
Next day in front of fan. Possibly getting better? I believe must be the naptha not dissolving completely? The coner I poured from is pretty ruff... Alot more prevalent in the corner. The residue under the crystals seems to just outline the crystal clusters so almost like sitting on a residue. I didn't h20 wash the pulls.
