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I have been making DMT for a little over a decade, but today's first harvest really stood out.
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Do you synthesize your DMT or extract it from plant matter?
The result looks great. Assuming you extract the DMT, what's your preferred solvent? Do you use slow evaporation or freeze precipitation? It looks like you have your method dialed in.
The result looks great. Assuming you extract the DMT, what's your preferred solvent? Do you use slow evaporation or freeze precipitation? It looks like you have your method dialed in.
50g MHRB
200ml Water
12g NaOH
60ml Naphtha
10ml Heptane
Glass jars
Glass pipette
Glass pan with cover
Glass pan for water bath
Glass stir rod
Plate for collection
Razor blades
Break the bark up as fine as possible.
Add to a mason jar along with 150ml of water.
Press the bark down with stir rod until it is saturated.
Add the NaOH to 50ml of water 50mg at a time until it is dissolved.
Wait until it has cooled to room temperature.
Add to the jar 1ml at a time, mixing for about a minute after each addition.
You will see it turn grey, which is what you want.
You do not want to add it all at once, as this will damage the end product.
After you add more base, it will turn dark, then black.
Let sit for one hour.
Tilt the jar and add 60ml naphtha slowly to keep the layers apart.
With a glass stir rod, gently and slowly stir the black admixture upwards into the layer of the non-polar solvent.
Continue for 10 minutes.
If it begins to separate into small beads, allow to sit until it becomes a solid layer.
Allow to settle for 20 minutes.
Pipette the naphtha layer off and into a pan.
Cover and put into the freezer to precipitate overnight.
Decant the naphtha back in the jar for the second, third, and fourth pull that you will do to get everything after this is done.
Turn the pan over and let sit for an hour to drip dry.
Collect the crystal.
Add the crystal and 10ml heptane to a clean pan.
Put into a warm water bath and rock back and forth until the solids have dissolved.
Collect the liquid.
Perform a water wash by squirting the heptane into a jar of hot water, then removing the layer once separated.
Repeat for 3 minutes.
Collect solvent.
Place into a clean pan.
Place pan into freezer for recollection of the heptane, or let stand to evaporate completely for one hour.
Collect and let sit for another hour.
Store until use away from light, heat, and air.
The heptane purification step is not required, but I find it important. I see it like this:
There are an infinite number of doors out there that can be opened with this, but you need a perfect key to open the correct door, and purification and crystallization are what matter to create the perfect key in that aspect. I also believe that larger crystals grown with a controlled solvent evaporation over time will be an even more perfect key than this, although I need more time to verify my theory.
My biggest finding in the last few years is that if you infuse it onto freshly-harvested leaves of the Chromololaena Odorata, also known as the Blue Mistflower, the experience when smoked will last up to 3 HOURS!
The plant grows easily indoor or outdoor. The oneirogens all compliment this molecule I have found, as they work on similar areas of the brain. The thujone-containing herbs are nice, of which Wormwood and Mugwort I have used, but the Blue Mistflower holds a place that even MAOIs cannot reach.
No longer do you need to smoke it or drink it with an MAOI to have an extended experience. No more purging. You control the level you go to at your own pace, as it removes most of the hyper-tolerance that is associated with it in pure form. I have stayed in that realm for 5 hours with this, doing work far past anything I ever dreamed imaginable. I almost never use just the crystal anymore due to the potentiation that is possible with this herb. Growing your own in the best way to make sure that you have access to fresh, clean leaf material. I harvested my leaves every other day from mid-Summer to late-Fall from my three plants that I had outside. I believe that it is a necessity to grow your own leaves for this. If you grow your own plants, I feel that your energy is imprinted onto them and that medicine has then grown to heal what is specifically ailing you when taken, or they can help you further progress on your path.
Thank you so much! I use freshly-harvested MHRB. I posted the tek just now, but will answer any questions that you may have. I have worked with naphtha for a long time, but just started working with heptane for a purification solvent. I let it freeze overnight for the naphtha, then with the heptane I can evaporate it overnight, since it is such a small amount. I am trying to start growing diamonds with slow evaporation later this month.Do you synthesize your DMT or extract it from plant matter?
The result looks great. Assuming you extract the DMT, what's your preferred solvent? Do you use slow evaporation or freeze precipitation? It looks like you have your method dialed in.
That's extraordinary!
I came here with the same goal a few months ago. Turned out to be pretty easy to get diamonds after a single mini-A/B. Looking forward to seeing yours.
Evaporation isn't the only way, but I won't discourage you from trying it.
This thread is a pretty good intro to the other factors that go into it.
The Art of DMT Crystallization, Part 1: Crystallization Basics and Intro to Crystal Design
Hello forum friends, I'm compiling a series of crystallization notes that I've been working on while figuring out the results of the solubility studies I posted a little while back. What I've discovered is that DMT can exist as at least 3 polymorphs, which was pretty exciting to me. I was...
forum.dmt-nexus.me
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Chromolaena odorata - Wikipedia
Were you inspired by native usage in making this choice?
Dreamskipper
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Hi. Some good information there!
I have a question regarding the plant you are using to make your enganced leaf are you sure you are quoting the correct name of the plant you are using? I had a look into this as I prefer Changa or enhanced leaf for smoking and I like the potential to extend even longer than the 30 minutes which is typical with Changa.
You mention blue mist flower (not psychoactive) which seems to have a different name ( Conoclini coelestinum) from the c odorata you mention which is also described as not being psychoactive and often mistaken for another plant C teniflora which is psychoactive. Is it possible that it is C Teniflora that you grow and use in your enhanced leaf mix? Picture of your plant might help?
3 hours from smoking sounds really good but just want to make sure I am going for the right plant!
Traditional Use and Adulteration
C. odorata is sometimes mistaken for Calea ternifolia, known as the "dream herb," which is traditionally used for oneiromancy (lucid dreaming/divination through dreams) and isconsidered psychoactive. C. odorata is considered an adulterant of the true dream herb.
Conoclinium coelestinum, commonly known as blue mistflower,[2] mistflower,[3] wild ageratum,[4] or blue boneset,[5] is a North American species of herbaceous perennialflowering plant in the family Asteraceae.
Conoclinium coelestinum (blue mistflower) is not considered a psychoactive plant
. Its primary uses and information relate to its function as a native, aggressive perennial popular with pollinators, its former classification in the genus Eupatorium, and potential uses in traditional medicine for inflammation, not for its psychoactive properties.
That is very interesting, what you say about creating the right key, and that the difference in crystals and how they have been grown will change that key.
A friend of mine had, what he described as, the most incredible psychedelic trip he has ever had, and that was from the crystal that I put the most effort into extracting and growing.
PedroSanchez
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i am getting this image put on christmas cards!
TheGreenPhantom
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PedroSanchez
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Awesome!
TheGreenPhantom
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I got my hands on this herb, and finally got around to trying it last night. Here are my notes:
12am Rompey Saranguey (chromolaena odorata)
I plan to try the two together next time instead of separate. I just wanted to see what the herb is like alone. I'm also planning a simple alcohol extraction to see if I can increase the strength of it's effects.
From what I can gather online, rompey saranguey is popular amongst practitioners of Santaria to break evil spells and clear spiritual blockages, both in body and home. It also has several traditional herbal medicine uses (see: Chromolaena Odorata: 15 Powerful Reasons Why You Should Use It).
As far as research into its chemical constituents, I could only locate one or two scientific papers, the bulk of which were hidden behind a pay wall. If my memory serves me correctly, researchers were able to show that rompey has superior bacteriocidal activity, as good as, and in some cases, better than commonly prescribed antibiotics.
Anyway, to be continued....
12am Rompey Saranguey (chromolaena odorata)
- +1 experience after one bowl of dried leaves and flower
- heart rate up a little
- like having half a beer on an empty stomach, visually and somatically
- feel mildly stoned after two bowls
- let the effects of rompey settle in a little, then partook
- 12:44am: dream-like visuals and slight bodyload; length of time not extended
- 1:20am: +3. full-immersion experience; fantastic dreams and images, none of which can be recalled
- I'm not sure if rompey saranguey had an effect
I plan to try the two together next time instead of separate. I just wanted to see what the herb is like alone. I'm also planning a simple alcohol extraction to see if I can increase the strength of it's effects.
From what I can gather online, rompey saranguey is popular amongst practitioners of Santaria to break evil spells and clear spiritual blockages, both in body and home. It also has several traditional herbal medicine uses (see: Chromolaena Odorata: 15 Powerful Reasons Why You Should Use It).
As far as research into its chemical constituents, I could only locate one or two scientific papers, the bulk of which were hidden behind a pay wall. If my memory serves me correctly, researchers were able to show that rompey has superior bacteriocidal activity, as good as, and in some cases, better than commonly prescribed antibiotics.
Anyway, to be continued....
PedroSanchez
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thank you for the update TheGreenPhantom. i can't wait to hear how well they go together
It is indeed that scientific name, but Mistflower can refer to a couple plants it looks like. That would cause confusion! Here is the Wiki: Chromolaena odorata - Wikipedia
Yes, you must infuse the DMT into the leaf for it to work properly. It is more commonly known as Jack-in-the-Bush as well. You can use the 1:1 of DMT to Leaf ratio to get there, and then 1:2 can be used to stay there in many cases. Bargains seem to only be from using 1:1, as well as time stopping.
It is indeed that scientific name, but Mistflower can refer to a couple plants it looks like. That would cause confusion! The nursery where I sourced the plant from says:
"This is World Seed Supply’s own clone. We grew our original mother plants from seed and named it, “Sweet Dreams” in contrast to the bitter Calea Zaatechichi. At the time, it was thought to be a subspecies of calea zacatechichi, These plants are clones of that original plant. “
Here is the Wiki: Chromolaena odorata - Wikipedia
Here is where it is named Blue Mistflower and the confusion was caused: https://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=chod
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Did you infuse it directly onto leaves that were harvested recently? And if so, did you also have the extended and potentiated experience? I picked a fresh leaf, dried it out, and infused it, but I have not yet smoked it to confirm that this plant is active like the last one that I had growing outside.
