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I might be done.

I have a bit of a controversial explanation about the need to purge:
DMT has a very high energy vibration, and to be allowed in without any difficulties one needs to be somewhat clean.
You need to be able to easily vibrate on the same frequency. For this, a clean body and psyche are a must.

That's why in the Amazon, they drink purgatives before ceremonies. One can clean the body in a ceremony or come prepared.
Drinking an oral brew, especially one high in harmalas, is very beneficial. It cleanses and trains your body-mind.

Just try it once: do a proper oral ceremony and then smoke your pipe. The difference in effect will be stunning.
 
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I'm willing to give that a try. 🙂
In fact, I was just watching a video by Gordo on pharma and changahuasca but I'm still unclear on the amounts of the various MAOI's, to take and the timing, as well as the proper ROA for a vaped experience. He had an older video that was more detailed but I can't find that one since he left Patreon.
Are you aware of a resource that breaks that down more clearly or maybe personal insight into that?
Thank-you.
 
I'm willing to give that a try. 🙂
In fact, I was just watching a video by Gordo on pharma and changahuasca but I'm still unclear on the amounts of the various MAOI's, to take and the timing, as well as the proper ROA for a vaped experience. He had an older video that was more detailed but I can't find that one since he left Patreon.
Are you aware of a resource that breaks that down more clearly or maybe personal insight into that?
Thank-you.

If you're interested in oral use (more time/commitment is needed):
 
I'm willing to give that a try. 🙂
In fact, I was just watching a video by Gordo on pharma and changahuasca but I'm still unclear on the amounts of the various MAOI's, to take and the timing, as well as the proper ROA for a vaped experience. He had an older video that was more detailed but I can't find that one since he left Patreon.
Are you aware of a resource that breaks that down more clearly or maybe personal insight into that?
Thank-you.
Hey @Tracer58921, I actually started to combine harmalas and changa a few weeks ago, and that's a very good ROA for me, here is my report from the first night:

I can go in further details if you have some questions, though you should find a lots of answers from the link @northape shared above :)
 
Hey @Tracer58921, I actually started to combine harmalas and changa a few weeks ago, and that's a very good ROA for me, here is my report from the first night:

I can go in further details if you have some questions, though you should find a lots of answers from the link @northape shared above :)
Thanks...I appreciate your willingness to help but I guess what I'm actually interested in at the present time is vaporhuasca instead of changa.
I'm new to all this and get a little confused with the terminology.
I ordered a harmine/harmalaHCL combo and some TTH but I haven't been able to find recommendations for how much to use sublingually before vaping DMT. I assume it would depend on the amount of DMT I was planning to vape but I'm not looking to tear down any veils for a while....low and slow is good enough for me.
I'll keep looking, I know there's a ton of info on all things DMT on here.
Also wanted to say I appreciate the kindness and willingness I've experienced so far from everyone on the Nexus...what a great group of people and such a valuable resource.
 
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Thanks...I appreciate your willingness to help but I guess what I'm actually interested at the present time is vaporhuasca instead of changa.
I'm new to all this and get a little confused with the terminology.
I ordered a harmine/harmalaHCL combo and some TTH but I haven't been able to find recommendations for how much to use sublingually before vaping DMT. I assume it would depend on the amount of DMT I was planning to vape but I'm not looking to tear down any veils for a while....low and slow is good enough for me.
I'll keep looking, I know there's a ton of info on all things DMT on here.
Also wanted to say I appreciate the kindness and willingness I've experienced so far from everyone on the Nexus...what a great group of people and such a valuable resource.
Hey Tracer58921, I'm glad you're having a good time here, it is a great place!

You don't really need a lot, 10-30 mg sublingual is enough for changa like experience, but maybe if you are going for low dmt doses, you can take moar harmalas.

You should avoid mentioning ordering substances, extracts or dry plant material online on the nexus.

Working with harmalas is relatively easy if you feel like like cleaning up the harmalas you're getting you can do a purification cycle.
Also, the HCl salt is bitter, for sublingual I prefer using the freebase, which you can also use for smoking, that can be done instead of sublingual for changa effects.
 
Oops, I'll make sure I don't do that again. Thanks for the reminder.
If I can't tolerate the HCl, Ill have to try the freebase next time around...great info. 👍
I have a lot to learn.😌
 
Oops, I'll make sure I don't do that again. Thanks for the reminder.
If I can't tolerate the HCl, Ill have to try the freebase next time around...great info. 👍
I have a lot to learn.😌
Conversion of harmala HCl to freebase is trivially easy. All you need is distilled water and washing soda (sodium carbonate). SC can be made at home by roasting, toasting or zapping sodium bicarbonate (baking soda*) for an appropriate length of time.
[*NOT baking powder!]

A solution of harmala HCl can be treated dropwise with a strong solution of SC until no further precipitation occurs. You then have your freebase, which is best rinsed a bit with weakly alkaline water (use ammonia if possible).
 
Conversion of harmala HCl to freebase is trivially easy. All you need is distilled water and washing soda (sodium carbonate). SC can be made at home by roasting, toasting or zapping sodium bicarbonate (baking soda*) for an appropriate length of time.
[*NOT baking powder!]

A solution of harmala HCl can be treated dropwise with a strong solution of SC until no further precipitation occurs. You then have your freebase, which is best rinsed a bit with weakly alkaline water (use ammonia if possible).
Easy for you, the mad scientist...lol. 😂
 
Easy for you, the mad scientist...lol. 😂
It's good to know that can be done...as I said, I have a lot to learn. Grateful for the knowledge
I have a few times found myself crawling on the floor for the bathroom sweating bullets with that exact feeling of nausea and sickness you experienced, needing to puke and eliminate at the same time, then it just passed by fairly quickly without any action.

My worst case and last time it happened it was on a big first toke. And I had just woken up. Immediately I felt nausea and sickness on top of that heavy body distortion it was super intense distortion, nausea and sickness with urge to puke and shit my pants. It was so bad I felt like literally that was it for me, at the same time I felt like my skin was scraping together drying up, I felt like I was being mummified on the spot where I layed fetal position on the hallway floor. That was as far as i would get to the bathroom before curling up. that’s the only time It was so bad I said to myself If I get through this I will never touch that pipe again.
Then moments later i was fine, again without any action.

those handful of times this has happened is in between over a few years time using the same technique. Also it happened far between and randomly. I use sandwich technique 50mg dozes layered between ash with weed/tobacco filler. Has worked magically for me personally, I love it so I’ve never switched it up.

it’s very unfortunate it happened when dipping your toe in for the first time.
After my worst experience I was hesitant and cautious for the first few travels after and just eased into it slower than usually which I prefer actually. As Blig-blug noted in the thread and looking back it could have been the abrupt fast onset although I’m really used to it with out problems, those times it happened it could have just hit in that way the body reacts in this manner. Might be combined with poor nutrition state or exhaustion atleast in my case.
Whatever it is I personally never worried about it too much as I got over it so quickly.

You have received a lot of great advice and guidance already, you are in good hands. As noted already in the thread It should be emphasised how important it is to have no thoughts bothering you at the back of your mind when going in, anything that can creep up on you as you experienced lightly with your choice of setting when realising how that situation could go wrong in the worst possible manner creeped up and caused a bit of paranoia. Having those realisations and feeling at the same time as going for a breakthrough experience for example would not a pleasant combo and possibly ruin the experience, especially if not seasoned could be hard to handle and navigate through it.

I felt the need sharing this with you. Hope it will courage you to not give up on your journey in anyway as this could have a simple explanation. As discussed in the thread maybe your medication played a part. In my case I have never used any kinds of medication or pills of any kind just worth noting. Blig-blug suggestion of abrupt fast onset I can relate to and makes sense in my case. Might be combined with poor physical state at the same time or exhaustion. Could be the abrupt fast onset combined with serotonin receptors in the gut as Jamie01 pointed out.

I’m excited for you to start your journey, if you do I’m looking forward to read about it.
Wish you all the best.

Btw if the scale doesn’t register and is unreliable with small amounts, i rather put large quantity of dmt on it and take from it rather than adding to the empty scale.
Thank-you, Hugin!
That's the worst feeling getting overcome with sudden sweats, nausea, and cramps with pretty much no warning. 🤢

I'll definitely be more cautious from here onward.
It's amazing how a little bit of encouragement and shared experiences makes me feel more empowered and like I'm not alone in this.

Also, I just got a different gem scale today and it seems to be working great but your tip on overloading and then taking away could prove useful. 🙂
 
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