I retract this. I'm wrong in this matter.

[Metanoia]

I do not post extraction videos. It was a video that outlined the proper safety precautions to follow before smoking the substances. I would never post an extraction video.

Seems like you're splitting hairs here. You post videos that encourage the use of DMT. That much we can agree on.

It's the same reason some people don't really like Joe Rogan. He talks very openly about it and about how amazing and earth-shattering the experience is. People that listen to his podcast with little to no knowledge might take that bit of curiosity and watch one of your videos. Then, being that they are unwilling to do an extraction themselves, go to drug dealers looking for it. The demand goes up, so does the supply.

These are complex issues that can have widespread consequences. When I want to direct someone to the proper info about DMT I simply point them to the Nexus and tell them to read, read, read. If you're unwilling to do that then you may want to question why you want to use these substances in the first place.

 

[universecannon]

Can someone please link the actual video in question?

Here is the link

 

[beatenwarrior]

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[dreamer042]

Can someone please link the actual video in question?

Here is the link

Thank you :thumb_up:

I want to start by saying I'm not really against video based education on this subject, it's just that I haven't found a video yet that had solid information presented well and was worth watching or sharing with others. As usual I also I don't really see a lot of value in these videos.

The one video teaches you how to use a home made crack pipe, perhaps some harm reduction value there, but not really what I would call a solid resource for understanding what DMT is, what the risks are, how to get the most benefit from the experience, and how to understand and integrate the experience. I also detect misinformation that could be considered unsafe (It is not in the interest of harm reduction to tell people to load 80mg and they can't put in too much).

That DMT monster challenge video is a complete fail imo. This is exactly the kind of video that should be flagged and removed from youtube. It's almost a perfect example of what harm reduction is not.

Also, I wouldn't say posting videos of yourself using illegal drugs on youtube is courageous I'd describe it moar as foolhardy than anything else.

I commend your intentions but if you really want to help others, take the time to make sure you understand the implications of your words and actions and that you have your facts straight. I do think there is a need for good videos with solid harm reduction information but this attempt falls short. Perhaps if we get together as a community and take on this project we can make something that we can all be proud of.

 

[SomeStray]

Beatenwarrior, not leading someone towards an experience they are not ready for is an increidbly important form of compassion.

... openly talked about so that everyone ...

No.

That's runs counter to the official stance of the Nexus and I sincerely hold that your approach will cause far more harm than it could possibly prevent. Not everyone is ready for DMT. Not everyone will benefit from it. Not everyone can handle it. The vast majority of people will be FAR better off they manage to live their whole lives without DMT ever crossing their radar. What you're doing contributes to wreckless spreading.

DMT is a powerful tool for those with purpose and practice, but doing anything to encourage the wreckless spread of knowledge about it makes about as much sense as giving a toddler a nail gun. Sure, maybe they'll manage to build a house, but maybe they'll end up in the ER.

 

[kgp4death]

I can understand staying away from youtube (because so many kids and uninformed) but there should be a how to video archive here with proper steps and discussion on what was done wrong or what could have been different in video and such. Some people are visual learning people (like me) and some things are better explained visually. You can say "pale yellow" all day but showing a video with good pale yellow and bad dark yellow/brown and what to do about it is much more useful. Is there a how to video archive here if not why plenty of people made one.

btw.....I did like the video, though copper wool with coating burned off would be better choice and if it was posted in an informed place like here (though obviously I see no videos here) someone would say something

 

[beatenwarrior]

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[Heyt]

beatenwarrior, your monster vs. DMT video is the antithesis of harm reduction. Your DMT in 3 minutes video lacks a plethora of relevant information while featuring info that is outdated and incorrect. Your How to DMT video features unsafe smoking methods and promotes said methods. I personally flagged all of your videos and will continue to do so. I find it strange that you claim a role of harm reduction while spreading outdated information and promoting abuse of one of the most powerful hallucinogens on the planet. Please remove your videos before someone watching them hurts themselves or ends up in jail.

Please read through the Nexus Wiki to see where some of your information no longer withstands scientific scrutiny. DMT-Nexus Wiki

DMT-Nexus Wiki:Health and Safety - DMT-Nexus Wiki

wiki.dmt-nexus.me

 

[Nitegazer]

I recognize your approach as rational. It's a 'skillful means' approach where a even a little benefit is better than none. There are lots of people who are going to try DMT, and many of them will not choose to participate in the culture of the Nexus, nor will they read much literature on the subject before opting to experience it. Individuals in this category who access your video will gain some benefit and face lower risks.

I also consider the individual who would not have chosen to try dmt if they had not bumped into a video like yours. They are actually facing higher risks than they otherwise would have.

So what ratio of those benefiting to those being hurt are you willing to except? 90/10? 75/25?

Of course some folks would not have faced the risks associated with DMT without the Nexus. However, I think the Nexus is morally on more solid ground because:

- There is so much information on the Nexus that there are significantly lower risks with the knowledge that can be gained here-- so much that I think the risks become negligible if the cautions given here are taken seriously

- Those considering DMT can ask questions and provide feedback of their own experiences. That way, the Nexus can recognize if harm is coming from the information provided and adjust accordingly

 

[DoingKermit]

Sorry if I come across as rude... I just don't quite understand why you think this video is something that could possibly change the world. Performing different tasks while on DMT and then comparing it to how you do the same tasks after drinking an energy drink is VERY irresponsible IMO.

Others have said exactly what I think regarding youtube as a platform for info on DMT, so I won't repeat it. You get a lot of views on your channel and having videos, especially like the one I linked above, and it is very imprudent. If you are a promoter of harm reduction, then I suggest you take it down.

 

[Pharmer]

I have watched a few of your video's and they point to how new you are to substances and is really just repeated info found in many other places... One video was slightly entertaining but over all they are really childish. A lab coat and anatomy posters do not make you more professional....


What about the risks to yourself/friends/GF by making these video's? I think the risk to your self outweigh any gain of repeated info you are spreading on youtube...especially now that your youtube account is linked to your DMT nexus account via this thread.

 

[FLeP]

People are going to post to youtube what they want to post to youtube. Be it poor extraction videos, videos of them selves acting ridiculous while high, etc.

To actively have a sticky thread in this forum that persecutes anyone who posts "poor" DMT related content is doing exactly what the government does. You're trying to control the actions of other people to suit your own needs. In this instance - to keep DMT related plants legal.

I believe the the people behind this are more concerned with harm reduction than the plants being illegal. It's pretty much one of the highest aims of this forum.

Your other fears, of potentially spreading "misinformation" on the proper use of this substance is also completely ridiculous. Stupid people are going to do stupid things. Period. You can't control this by having their poorly made extraction videos removed off a video site.

It's my belief that through actions such as these the Nexus has done a lot of good in the way of harm reduction and keeping DMT from being considered a recreational drug. This is an important aspect of DMT's future, how it is framed in the public eye. It is serious. Youtube is not serious. It is for play.

A lot of this content you are having removed is peoples hard work. Some of those people are passionate about what they are doing. Even if they are spreading poor information.

You may have gotten an A for effort in grade school but DMT is grown up business. This is people physical and mental health at risk. Poor information is absoulutely unacceptable.

 

[DesykaLamgeenie]

I'm watching this video for the first time and making comments as I react:

1. Listing ebay as a source for DMT-containing material: though I know you are far from the first person to speak of ebay as a source, I think the less people announcing a certain auction site as a source for DMT-containing materials, the better. The more word gets out of it as a source, the more likely it is that it STOPS being a source.

2. The smoke is never ever harsh in the least bit for me. Neither from MHRB and ACRB. The only time I've ever experienced harsh DMT vapor is when it's been burned.

3. Steel wool - just saying a thicker kind is not enough. Have you seen fine steel wool burn? It's used by many as a firestarter - that stuff is no joke, and if someone doesn't know what you mean by thicker kind or they simply disregard that part (like you said in your video, there are some not-so-bright people, and you mentioned it very briefly - easy to miss!!) they could be seriously injured. Also, like someone else said, it needs to be heated until it glows before using to burn off any chemicals/oils/impurities that may also be hazardous to health.

4. At least 80mg?! No. No no no. I know you say that you can hit it again and again, adjusting your dose to what you want. But how in the heck would someone with little to no experience know how much they're inhaling?? They won't - and they could easily take in a large amount of that 80mg. And for some (many) people, a 30-40-50+mg dose of DMT, especially for their first time, could result in not only a traumatizing experience, but lasting effects on that person's life and mental health. It happens. It's no joke and nothing to take lightly. It may be impossible to overdose and die, but it is most definitely possible to take in a dose that is detrimental to one's well-being. For some people that's not a concern - they can puff tough and be just fine and aren't as sensitive to it as other people and won't experience negative effects. For some, a massive dose could have very negative effects.


Your video is not a good example of harm reduction. It's as simple as that. You tried, and you claim to have good intentions - I get that and I feel for you. But perhaps people who are not willing to do their own reading and research have no business doing DMT on their own without someone experienced to guide them through it. [this 'How to DMT' video does not fill that role] Obviously people are still going to do it without researching or having a guide...but I'm not sure that giving them this video is better than giving them nothing at all.

Should your video be taken down? Personally I'm not interested in making that call. But I think it'd be great if you'd accept that this video fell short and take it down - and that if you're truly passionate about making these sorts of videos, to do more research, gain more experience, rethink your approach and come up with a new one. I'm all for harm reduction, and I don't think videos about DMT are inherently bad. But this one invites more trouble than good.

 

[DesykaLamgeenie]

I just watched some of the DMT vs Monster challenge.


You are obviously burning the DMT.


You are holding the flame directly to the steel wool. I even saw a portion of it get red hot.


That is not necessary. If you're using a 'machine', holding the bottle at an angle and holding the lighter below the mouth of the bottle so that the flame never actually contacts the metal is the proper way.

Years of experience huh? I'm not doubting that you have years of experience - but you definitely haven't spent those years refining your technique and building your knowledge, as a quality teacher should/would have done.

This is people physical and mental health at risk. Poor information is absoulutely unacceptable.

This.

 

[beatenwarrior]

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[beatenwarrior]

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[DesykaLamgeenie]

That's awesome man.

I didn't read through the whole thread so I don't know how everyone else came at you, but regardless, I imagine you probably felt/feel attacked which is totally understandable.

But the entire point of this matter being approached wasn't just to attack and bring you down - it is just a part of the overall effort to improve the state of all things regarding DMT and all information being expressed about it. That's a major part of this community, and you're a part of this community - props for taking action.

 

[beatenwarrior]

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[DesykaLamgeenie]

You were promoting bad information. At least in the 2 videos I watched.

And your good intentions and intended messages are all well and fine - but in the company of low quality, incorrect, or poorly delivered information, they are irrelevant.


If you're making videos about how to use DMT and you don't educate your viewers properly and/or endanger the availability of DMT sources and there happens to be a community that takes this matter very seriously, it just makes sense for that community to take action against such information being spread.

 

[DoingKermit]

beatenwarrior, I am sorry that you felt attacked when you actually do mean well. Even if the DMT vs Monster vid was a joke, it can have ill repercussions amongst our our beloved community. Hence why I, plus others, reacted in such a manner. The fact that you see the error of your ways says a lot about your character and I thank you for making the video private.

On a side note, try to listen to the other nexians in this thread regarding DMT on youtube in general. Maybe remaking the "how to" video isn't the best solution.

Either way, I wish you well and hope you don't take too much offence to what has been said from us nexians. We are only trying to protect our community and the molecule we love so much.