If you're having trouble getting crystals from acrb, use this tek (thick-light)

[Swinjin]

Just finished this awesome tek and i have quick question. What would be the best way to collect spice from this jar, just decant naphtha and wait for it to dry? Seems like it will be a pain to scrape it all with a razor blade. Any advice is appreciated.

 

[wearepeople]

Swijin, a common thing to do is decant most of the Naphtha off.

Then quickly put the lid back on and stick it back in the freezer upside down.
(This helps prevent water condensation from saturating into your crystals.)

After fourty five minutes or so, carefully unscrew the lid and pour the rest of the naphtha off.

At that point, I usually put the jar under a fan. You could also repeat the process above to be extra careful. Getting most all of the naphtha out helps keep your crystals from melting to goo.

Also, getting all the dmt can be difficult. I find no matter how much i scrape, some of it will stick to the jar in a thin paste. An easy thing to do is heat up a small amount of naphtha, 50mL or so, in a hot water bath and dissolve the remaining dmt. From here you could do a complete evap to get all the left over goodies.

Best of luck!

 

[jj8a6a]

Pour in some hot naptha 15ml/ gm and swirl around, pour into a wide dish , freeze precip, pour off excess solvent and dry! Anyone know how to make sure there are no nasties in the dark red goo? Afraid of lye!! What can be done to make sure dark red goo is safe ???

 

[wearepeople]

Pour in some hot naptha 15ml/ gm and swirl around, pour into a wide dish , freeze precip, pour off excess solvent and dry! Anyone know how to make sure there are no nasties in the dark red goo? Afraid of lye!! What can be done to make sure dark red goo is safe ???

If you were careful to not get any of the base solution into your naphtha, there shouldn't be any lye in you end result.

 

[jj8a6a]

I know. So if its questionable, dont risk it? Is it possible to clean?

Swin, how much naptha did you use ? 400 or 600ml. Or did you scale it down. does anyone think using 600 milliliterswould make it very hard to yield any things at all?using 600 milliliters, is it expected to have very little yielding pulls?under .1 grams each pull? is that why this was changed to 400 instead?

 

[wearepeople]

I know. So if its questionable, dont risk it? Is it possible to clean?

IMPORTANT: spice color purity fallacy AKA is your dmt ok to smoke ? - DMT Discussion - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

3- There are no remains of the mimosa soup that carried over when separating the pulls - While NaOH does NOT vaporize at the temperatures reached by the lighter, it could come through as unvaporized particles suspended in the smoke. Also, the mimosa soup is not only NaOH but also plant material that will create very harsh smoke. If there is any black spots that may be from mimosa soup or you are unsure, better wash your solvent before evap/freeze precip, with dilute sodium carbonate solution, or recrystalize your crystals after evap/freeze.

 

[Legit]

Question: Would it be a good idea to keep the container warm in steps 2-3 (via hot water bath or space heater) or will it stay warm enough on it's own?

The reason I ask is that it seems warm naphtha pulls the most DMT out of the lye solution and the DMT crashes out of the naphtha as it cools. Or am I wrong?

 

[jj8a6a]

Seems like the 6-10 shakes should be done relatively quickly. Quick enough that its still warm after the last shake separates. I might suggest a crockpot water bath during shaking the shakes.

 

[ChrisChris517]

My yields thus far are 4.5 grams, reduced to 2000 ml and poured into seperate jars, 85 grams of naoh each, with 150 ml of naphtha each.

Out of how much ACRB? 500 grams?

 

[Legit]

Seems like the 6-10 shakes should be done relatively quickly. Quick enough that its still warm after the last shake separates. I might suggest a crockpot water bath during shaking the shakes.

That's what concerned me. Say, for example, one separation takes 10 minutes. In that case, the minimum 6 shakes would take an hour, long enough for the solution to cool significantly, maybe even to room temperature.

Of course, the crock pot water bath sounds like it would make that a non-issue.

It just occurred to me that maybe some people didn't take that into consideration, and didn't get all the DMT out of their lye solution because of it. Not sure how big of a difference it makes, but every little bit counts!

 

[Swinjin]

I know. So if its questionable, dont risk it? Is it possible to clean?

Swin, how much naptha did you use ? 400 or 600ml. Or did you scale it down. does anyone think using 600 milliliterswould make it very hard to yield any things at all?using 600 milliliters, is it expected to have very little yielding pulls?under .1 grams each pull? is that why this was changed to 400 instead?

I used about 600ml naphtha, let it evap til i had about 500ml, separated in to two jars and freeze precipitated. used about 200g lye.

 

[Goodfellaaa]

"01. I used 500 grams that I froze and thawed twice then boiled in 2000ml of H20 with 100ml of white vinegar I let this boil for 1 and 1/2 hours then transfered the liquid to another pot and started reducing it. Do this at least 4 times adding fresh vinegar each time. I did it 5 and found that the 5th boil was lighter in color. Anyway as your cooking fresh washes start reducing prior boils in a second pot."

I'm not sure what you mean by reducing the prior boils in the second pot. So you boil 500g of bark in 2000 ml of water and 100 ml vinegar for 1 1/2 hr. then you pore the liquid in another pot and 'reduce it'. Then you repeat this step five times, poring the liquid from each of the boils in this second pot until 1500ml is reached. Can you explain what you mean by reducing the liquid in the second pot until 1500ml is reached? After one and a half hour of boiling, about how much is drained into the second pot? Please clarify step one. Thanks.

 

[sbudbud]

SWIM tried but files (in a way) of making DMT from ACRB, SWIM thinks it might have been a product issue i.e getting the trunk bark instead of root bark. can someone tell me where to find a reliable source so I can inform SWIM, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance from SWIM

 

[Swinjin]

SWIM tried but files (in a way) of making DMT from ACRB, SWIM thinks it might have been a product issue i.e getting the trunk bark instead of root bark. can someone tell me where to find a reliable source so I can inform SWIM, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance from SWIM

:!: There is NO sourcing talk allowed here. Read the attitude page.

 

[gapingmind]

Okay so im about attempt my first extraction. And the ACRB is due here any day. i plan on following this tek to a T, and would just like to get a few things clarified by anyone who has had success. Q1-should i powder my shredded bark? Q2-Do i filter out excess bark when i transfer it from pot to jar? Q3- should crystal lye be used to basify. Q4- 600 or 400 ml of naptha and do i add naptha 6-10 times or just once and then shake and seperate 6-10? I understand these are very basic questions and do appreciate your patience.

 

[frx120]

Hey guys quick question. Do you grind the bark first or just let boil as whole?

 

[Swinjin]

I just cut it into small pieces with pruning shears before the freeze/thaw. Works great.

 

[○]

Quick question to those that have extracted using this tek (or any A/B), what are the dosage ranges that you guys are using and how similar are the experiences compared to the extract from mhrb? Is the NMT a huge complementary to the spice? Does it over power the spice or muddle it up?

Just wondering since I have always extracted from mimosa and have yet to buy ACRB, but will be acquiring some ACRB very soon.

Tat Tvam Asi

 

[frx120]

First step says transfer the boil to a second pot and reduce after adding vin.. what hasppns ot the first pot.. add more water and keep sludge in there or is sludge and all transferred to second pot ;p Thanks PH should be keep 3-4 correct?

 

[Swinjin]

Quick question to those that have extracted using this tek (or any A/B), what are the dosage ranges that you guys are using and how similar are the experiences compared to the extract from mhrb? Is the NMT a huge complementary to the spice? Does it over power the spice or muddle it up?

Just wondering since I have always extracted from mimosa and have yet to buy ACRB, but will be acquiring some ACRB very soon.

Tat Tvam Asi

I have been using 40mg and it seems more powerful to me than 40mg of mimosa extract. It's very hard to describe but i like it better for sure. It definitely adds it's own flavor. It's beautiful. I have broken through every time on 40mg.