Interdimensional parasites, (alien, demon, etc)

[SoulCrushingBass]

Good points Macre. I agree totally with the parasite stuff. Of course... not all dark entities are actually parasites or weak, so be careful. Some of them are much more like demonic military forces. Seal Team Beelzebub, hehehe.

I also agree that there are mundane ways to deal with "supernatural" threats, and it is very possible to eliminate parasites you didn't know you had. (as it is with physical parasites) Generally this is accomplished by the host becoming an unsuitable environment for the parasite. If the conditions become insufferable and uninhabitable, the parasite will die or leave. Think of the giant tapeworms that come crawling out of their host's mouths when they become too weak and starved to feed the monsters... or how you can get rid of giardia by consuming absolutely no sugar until the protozoa has died completely.

If an astral parasite is feeding on anger and you are no longer angry... and you are not able to be goaded into anger by it... it will leave. Same goes for fear, sadness, spite and misery. This is why it is important you strive to be "good" and positive, and associate with positive light people. In this way you are no longer the astral equivalent of a malarial swamp.



I suppose I will have to watch this Supernatural show now. Peer pressure. :twisted: :lol:

I agree. Seems to most logical to me thus far. That and I've been practicing imagining an indigo violet bubble around me shielding me from too much energy. I'm extremely sensitive to people and their emotions, its almost posionous the way vibes cut into me and make others feelings overpower mine. Some days I have to wear ear plugs so I can stay calm.

 

[Hyperspace Fool]

I agree. Seems to most logical to me thus far. That and I've been practicing imagining an indigo violet bubble around me shielding me from too much energy. I'm extremely sensitive to people and their emotions, its almost posionous the way vibes cut into me and make others feelings overpower mine. Some days I have to wear ear plugs so I can stay calm.

You may want to beef up your lower chakras a bit. This is typical of people who are focused on the upper chakras without having a solid root and foundation. In Kung Fu, we would have you stand in a square horse everyday while doing rooting visualizations. Chi Kung that replenishes the root chakra and the Tan Tien (2nd chakrah). The Solar Plexus is also key to being secure in one's own physio-emotional state. As much as I love me the indigo (third eye) stuff and the violet bliss... it must be balanced on a solid base. Otherwise people become spiritually and physically weak. Airy fairy so to speak. Develop the root, and you won't fly away. The winds of other people's intent can not move a Sequoia.

 

[SoulCrushingBass]

I agree. Seems to most logical to me thus far. That and I've been practicing imagining an indigo violet bubble around me shielding me from too much energy. I'm extremely sensitive to people and their emotions, its almost posionous the way vibes cut into me and make others feelings overpower mine. Some days I have to wear ear plugs so I can stay calm.

You may want to beef up your lower chakras a bit. This is typical of people who are focused on the upper chakras without having a solid root and foundation. In Kung Fu, we would have you stand in a square horse everyday while doing rooting visualizations. Chi Kung that replenishes the root chakra and the Tan Tien (2nd chakrah). The Solar Plexus is also key to being secure in one's own physio-emotional state. As much as I love me the indigo (third eye) stuff and the violet bliss... it must be balanced on a solid base. Otherwise people become spiritually and physically weak. Airy fairy so to speak. Develop the root, and you won't fly away. The winds of other people's intent can not move a Sequoia.

Will def. Do some research there. Thanks hf!

 

[inaniel]

i've been interested in chi kung for a while, hyperspace fool, but there doesn't really seem to be a lot of options around my area with regards to learning it. i'm not sure how i would fit another schedule into my week anyways, go to yoga, two year old, pregnant wife and working 40+ hours. what are some books you would recommend for a very beginner? i know you've mentioned mantak chia before, is that a good starting point?

 

[Redguard]

Redguard I feel you bro, and know exactly where you are coming from. I am also not an either-or kind of guy, and tend to want both... all of the above... and then some. I was the kid who had to try all 31 flavors at Baskin Robbins.

It didn't help me that my background in mystical things was mostly Buddhist & Taoist Kung Fu. These are powerful, effective and very useful traditions... and I highly recommend Chi Kung to everyone... but the Yin & Yang way of seeing things implies that there is always a balance to be found. It also makes you think that all things are part of the Tao.

Sadly, there are limits to this. Non-dual philosophies etc. are fine and dandy, even work like a charm... until they don't. There comes a time when fence sitting is not an option for you anymore. You might feel neutral and above the fray, but they don't see you that way. To be neutral in the face of real darkness is to tacitly support it. Think of the Swiss and Hitler.

I used to go around the world and hang out with every kind of person I encountered. I felt love and oneness for all of them... even... especially, the misguided darkness lovers. I would stay up all night joyfully chatting away with methed up satanists... trade entheogenic plants with twisted old witches... even hung out smoking weed with straight up thugs and gangsters. I have seen just about every sick underbelly that humanity has to offer. Klansmen, Illuminati types... you name it. I was so good at this, that I could feel relatively safe among people that would smash my skull in for a laugh.

Needless to say, I stopped this. It was needlessly provocative, and at some point you push them into a corner with your light, and a cornered venomous creature is dangerous. Even those of us with massive protection and skill to burn can be set up and fall into traps. Don't go hunting vampires unless you are prepared to slay them.

For this reason, I suggest that in your search for people to learn from you only go to people that are clearly and amazingly on the side of the light. Dark people are dangerous and the grey people are shifty and untrustworthy. I say this as someone who was kidnapped by sorcerer cultists in Mexico, and came this close to being sacrificed.

Of course, I don't expect that anyone here will take my word for any of this. You will all follow your own paths and I pray you are guided and protected on those paths long enough that you come to see the light on your own. All I can say is that this is not a case of polemics. The dark and light are not "equal opposing forces." This is illusion. The truth doesn't lie in the synthesis of thesis and antithesis here... as it does in most things. Darkness is sickness, disease and death. The light is the life force of the Universe. Do not be fooled. Chaos is not powerful... in that it is not a power you can control. It is like a wild tornado or cyclone that destroys everything in its path. Real power is like the Death Star that can destroy an entire planet in an instant. What the light beings have is beyond even that... they can erase darkness from creation retroactively.

Make no mistake, a little attraction for the darkness is all it takes. A tiny crack in the door, and they are in. Diabolical home invasion on steroids. Do not invite darkness into your life. There is a reason that vampire myths involve you inviting them into your home...

Thank you for sharing your experiences. Even though at the end of the day I will have to learn what chaos is on my own terms, you have successfully raddled my foundation so to say. I have a few questions for you, I understand if you do not want to answer them, if I were in your shoes I certainly wouldn't. It seems to me that you have come to these conclusions about chaos the hard way. What was your breaking point? What was it that opened your eyes to what chaos is?

 

[Hyperspace Fool]

i've been interested in chi kung for a while, hyperspace fool, but there doesn't really seem to be a lot of options around my area with regards to learning it. i'm not sure how i would fit another schedule into my week anyways, go to yoga, two year old, pregnant wife and working 40+ hours. what are some books you would recommend for a very beginner? i know you've mentioned mantak chia before, is that a good starting point?

Certainly reading Mantak will be a good start. Even some of his videos are good enough to learn some basic chi kung. Most entry level chi kung is fairly easy to learn actually. The movements are simple, the breathing is straightforward, and the visualizations are natural. The key, of course, is doing them enough that the visualizations stop being visualizations and become actual sensations. When you can feel the chi moving, you are really doing chi kung.

Good luck. And, keep on the lookout for a real master... nothing beats having a master around.

 

[Hyperspace Fool]

I have a few questions for you, I understand if you do not want to answer them, if I were in your shoes I certainly wouldn't. It seems to me that you have come to these conclusions about chaos the hard way. What was your breaking point? What was it that opened your eyes to what chaos is?

Well, it wasn't any single event... though I could recount a great many that would have been enough, individually, for most. I have a weird combination of being rather thick headed, yet also intuitive. I tended to always fundamentally know my place in the scheme of things, but kept trying to test the boundaries, and to find exceptions. I was strong enough to get away with foolish behavior for a long time, and stubborn enough to not heed clear warnings... so, my Hyperslaps have been hard and their impact immense.

In the end, the thing that opens your eyes is danger. Hanging by a fingernail and staring into the abyss... being sure you are at least as likely as not to not survive this latest foolhardy mistake. That kinda stuff is behavior modification at its most impending and immediate.

I suppose you have to have been attacked, and have engaged your opponent to see behind the masks and games. You have to have felt the sting of their venomous backstabbing and heard them laugh as they savored your pain. Betrayal, deceit, sadism and even worse stuff have to be experienced to be truly believed. Everyone seems to think that it won't happen to them... until it is too late. It is humbling in the extreme to realize how few true friends you have, and how many of the beings you encounter are actually quite happy to see you fall.

 

[Redguard]

I have a few questions for you, I understand if you do not want to answer them, if I were in your shoes I certainly wouldn't. It seems to me that you have come to these conclusions about chaos the hard way. What was your breaking point? What was it that opened your eyes to what chaos is?

Well, it wasn't any single event... though I could recount a great many that would have been enough, individually, for most. I have a weird combination of being rather thick headed, yet also intuitive. I tended to always fundamentally know my place in the scheme of things, but kept trying to test the boundaries, and to find exceptions. I was strong enough to get away with foolish behavior for a long time, and stubborn enough to not heed clear warnings... so, my Hyperslaps have been hard and their impact immense.

In the end, the thing that opens your eyes is danger. Hanging by a fingernail and staring into the abyss... being sure you are at least as likely as not to not survive this latest foolhardy mistake. That kinda stuff is behavior modification at its most impending and immediate.

I suppose you have to have been attacked, and have engaged your opponent to see behind the masks and games. You have to have felt the sting of their venomous backstabbing and heard them laugh as they savored your pain. Betrayal, deceit, sadism and even worse stuff have to be experienced to be truly believed. Everyone seems to think that it won't happen to them... until it is too late. It is humbling in the extreme to realize how few true friends you have, and how many of the beings you encounter are actually quite happy to see you fall.

You have experienced much more then me. Chaos for me isn't some... grab for power. It is just something I want to view at its primal level. I want to understand it so I don't have to ever fear it. But I don't think I could ever use it. It's clear to me now that I have much more to learn as well. I'm glad you came out of it ok In a way I can empathize, its call is... seductive

 

[Jin]

If an astral parasite is feeding on anger and you are no longer angry... and you are not able to be goaded into anger by it... it will leave. Same goes for fear, sadness, spite and misery. This is why it is important you strive to be "good" and positive, and associate with positive light people. In this way you are no longer the astral equivalent of a malarial swamp.

this i believe is the top tip for anyone wishing to defend themselves against these parasites and perhaps the only way

thank you HF

edit : i've also used rue tea to starve the parasites , i have no idea how this works yet it does

 

[hug46]

It is humbling in the extreme to realize how few true friends you have, and how many of the beings you encounter are actually quite happy to see you fall.

Are you talking about hyperspace or everyday reality. If it is the latter it makes me want to give you a big hug and say "there there". But, as i view how we relate to hyperspace directly to our interactions with every day reality, i would probably give a tender hug either way.

 

[Hyperspace Fool]

@ hug46

The hug is appreciated. I have been backstabbed enough to appreciate a nice bear hug when I can get one. Some of my wounds are still kinda fresh, so much obliged.

I find that Hyperspace mirrors "reality" in many ways... they are both part of a spectrum of realities Aborigines term Dreamtime. I don't see this world as being any more real than any other dream realm... we may be more attached to it, and it seems more persistent, but all dreams have those characteristics until we wake from them.

As above, so below. As within, so without. The macrocosm mirrors the microcosm... and vice versa. I think you will find that when you are being attacked in Hyperspace, there are equivalent attacks happening in day to day life.

This might seem to strengthen the argument that it is all projections and in your head, but I find that it merely shows how the various worlds/dimensions etc. cross-pollinate and affect each other.

Our energy fields are not restricted to this world. As such, we could be said to inhabit a number of adjacent worlds and dimensions simultaneously. Something to think about.


@ jin

Yeah, and filling yourself with light is another surefire way to make you "unpalatable" to parasites. Pure, blinding source-light is not only like mosquito repellent, it is like quinine and an immune system super-charge.

Best thing one can do IMHO is to connect to that highest light and get out of the way as it does its miraculous work... any intention you could add to it would only weaken it.

 

[Hyperspace Fool]

[YOUTUBE]

Graham Hancock and Joe Rogan discussing demonic parasites. The discussion is around human sacrifice, feeding on psychic energy, and the manipulation of human history by demonic forces. I thought this segment of the long video podcast was worth posting here, but the entire thing is well worth watching. Lots of DMT talk, flotation tanks, ancient ruins and more goodness.



EDIT: Seems the function to start the video at the correct time is not functioning at the moment, so just jump to 2:25:00 manually

 

[SoulCrushingBass]

Grigori, by Lustmord

from the album The Word As Power

lustmord.bandcamp.com

Put this halfway through the track and blasted. .
I felt. I knew it was thousands of years old, this ancient "technology" kept in the chant. Then....my teeth. They were like chewing on foil.. they exploded. My bones ached. They and everything else crushed and burned. I simultaneously felt the evil and felt all the old dempty trips. They were so sneaky, Traditions older than everyone we know combined have kept ths alive for moments like this. It was that real that they lived to do only these chants. And one artist travelled around the world to record it, because, apparently he has nothing better to do... ,

But to eradicate what I've let sneak into me.

I had to be the Phoenix
Lol I had my soul crushed

 

[inaniel]

Soooo... I had never really experienced anything like this but have always found it rather interesting. Until recently...



A few weeks ago I was in a place where I can only describe as not quite a dream but not quite reality. It was almost like an incredibly vivid dream or a not so vivid wakeful state.

Setting was my childhood home, someone started to break in. I went to investigate and saw three men enter who claimed to be construction employees who were there to remodel something or other. I said sure, fine, but had a very uneasy feeling about them and the situation. Then, one of the guys said something to the effect of "we won't be in your way, just watch out for the mice" with a large grin on his face. I looked at my foot and saw tons of mice crawling on me and biting my leg. I panicked and felt real fear, and real pain unlike anything I've experienced in a dream. Another guy in this place told me to sit in a chair and relax, which i did, and i was over taken by thousands of mice crawling over me and inside my mouth, etc. At this point I 'awoke' in a jump, and I saw something while wide awake at my foot - a dark shadow figure was biting me and it actually hurt. I moved around a bit and it seemed to go away, but the pain stayed there, as did an uneasy feeling for the rest of that day.



Then, last night, I was in a similar situation. I was once again in my childhood home, in a dream that didn't quite feel like a dream. It had such a distinct feeling that I was able to remember what had happened recently, I knew I was in the same place. So I observed a little more consciously and cautiously.



In this 'dream' I was laying in bed with my wife, she turned to me and said "I'm hearing a voice, I'm channeling someone." We both thought this was interesting, but then she said "whoever this is says they're here in the room right now." At this point I heard a strange scratching sound. I looked around the room and didn't see anything except a towel on a night stand to the left of the bed. I looked to the right again then back to the left and there I saw something had crawled under the towel and was using it as a cloak. It started to bite my leg and once again I felt real pain, but I didn't panic this time. I yelled a sort of war cry and started to hit it, to which it got more aggressive. I found myself trying to wake myself at the same moment and did after a brief fit with sleep paralysis. I awoke yelling in reality like a mad man. Once again, this felt incredibly real, the pain and everything else associated with it.




Long post, sorry. But this sort of thing has never happened to me. I haven't been experimenting with any sort of substance as of late. Has this happened to anyone else unprovoked like this? No weed, no DMT, no aya. Anyone have suggestions?


I suppose it could be just dreams, or aspects of myself, or my mind playing me a fool, but these events seem so real I have little doubt its not one of these parasites.


I would love to take aya and actively try to rid myself of it but feel my inexperience and total lack of techniques puts me in a handicap.


Its weird though, Ive been battling Candida lately, can't help but feel now that it could be a physical manifestation of this thing... any help, book suggestions, advice will be much appreciated

 

[Doodazzle]

any help, book suggestions, advice will be much appreciated

I claim zero expertise--but you did say any help or suggestions. I'm no expert nor witch doctor nor shaman--I can only relate what I have done in similar situations.

Surround the house with a ring of rock salt.

Establish an outer shield of quartz: like 5 pieces laid out in a pentagram, or four set out out to the cardinal points, or any number of quartz, really, but at least four.

Salt scrub of epidermis. Gentle salt scrub. I've taken sea salt partially dissolved in warm water, basically exfoliating my entire body. Be careful with this one....if you are superstitious enough to bother with it especially in the winter time--exfoliation can/will remove outermost layer of skin and in the winter time. If i felt the need to do something like this again I'd probably mix the salt into warm coconut oil, or even this shea butter/coconut oil stuff that my g/f uses for her skin. Sea salt is not always large particles--you can get fine stuff as well.

I'd say that it is nothing to panic over....but I would do something. if it is "all in your head" well, doing something will make you feel better still, right?


Also, careful with the rock salt--just be aware that it can and will have bad effect on plant life. A solid ring, but not so thick that you kill your garden and lawn.


Again--I'm not a doctor, not a shaman, please take what I am saying with.....a grain of salt.

 

[Calaquendi]

^^ Nice reply, I like the rock salting of the perimeter...friends of mine involved with serious plant healing ceremony very often do thus, and also as you advised, bathed with salt to prepare for experiences...kudos

Long post, sorry. But this sort of thing has never happened to me. I haven't been experimenting with any sort of substance as of late. Has this happened to anyone else unprovoked like this? No weed, no DMT, no aya. Anyone have suggestions?

Hello - thanks for sharing this...reading over your post it came to mind that perhaps, and IMO probably, you have encountered a first experience of sleep paralysis. This is a very common and really disturbing bad joke that happens to up to 50% of Americans [according to WebMd survey] and I myself have experienced bouts of it from time to time. There seems to me nothing I have done to provoke an episode, though certainly all things have a cause.
I have not personally had feelings of entities in the room with me, but it is a very common part of sleep paralysis to have strong feelings of 'people' or other weird things in the same room...and it is almost always unpleasant and threatening. I did some cursory perusal of the phenomenon when I had a particularly irritating bout a few years back, I had to use ALL of my strength and will to jerk myself out of this 'whatever' it was; a state of 'pseudo-sleep' wherein I was blind and trapped physically. I could hear the waking sounds 'outside' of my be-couched slumber, but could not communicate that I needed someone to wake me up...it pissed me off and scared the shit out of me, but I finally snapped out of it and all I could do was giggle and shake my head. Afterward I looked it up and came to the conclusion I had not burned a savage hole in my brain with drugs (yet) and - life goes on...

Some links that may be of service to you, friend:

The science of sleep paralysis

Sleep Paralysis

Have you ever been dozing off or waking up and unable to move or speak? The experts at WebMD explain the phenomenon of sleep paralysis.

www.webmd.com

I would love to take aya and actively try to rid myself of it but feel my inexperience and total lack of techniques puts me in a handicap.

Indeed, I agree much with this observation...take care and I vote for baby steps. None of these tools are going anywhere and you have all the time in the world to figure things out, or not :lol:
I am pleased to see a discerning attitude with regard to jumping into a heavy trip to try and bust this loose, taking your time is the best policy. Wish ye all the luck in the world!

PS - you may benefit from looking up hypnagogic hallucinations :

What are Hypnagogic Hallucinations? (with pictures)

Hypnagogic hallucinations are hallucinations that occur between sleeping and waking. Most hypnagogic hallucinations are extremely...

www.wisegeek.org

 

[Yex]

Sorry to dig up an old thread, but someone directed me here after I mentioned demonic possession in the "I Hate Cannabis" thread, and more or less everything Hyperspace Fool et al. have said (well, except maybe for the part about holes in energy fields; I don't know enough about subtle fields to comment on this) has resonated strongly enough with me that I feel compelled to offer my thoughts on the matter. Hopefully my comments will amount to more than a "me too" post. If they don't, I apologize now.

First of all this, in regards to cannabis: early in this thread, HF hypothesizes that perhaps the reason that people often receive perceived benefits from using cannabis in their youth, only to discover its uglier side later, is that the immediate benefits of of cannabis outweigh its drawbacks when dealing with the conditions that teenagers do (high testosterone, or what have you). This is certainly a possibility, but I would propose an alternate theory - that cannabis is inherently deceitful, and that it is harder for less discerning minds to see past the false smile. This may or may not be true; I'm just putting it out there. What I do know is that in my experience, the main tactic of demonic beings is deceit.

There are plenty of beings that are not on either side, and the grey entities can run the gamut. For instance, many of the parasites discussed here are not "dark" or "light" so much as voracious for negative emotions. Also, you may find some dragons (for instance) to be helpful and wise, while there are others that are as black-hearted and malicious as they come. In the end, though, it is my opinion that there are very few beings that are truly neutral. Even Switzerland wasn't and certainly isn't neutral. Everyone takes a side at some point. Or... they are serving the purpose of a side unawares.

I think this is right on the money. There are certainly a myriad of beings that inhabit this universe, and many are not overtly "dark" or "light" (e.g. faeries, or, say, most humans), but it all seems to come down to "which side are you on?"

Especially when you consider that

sitting on the fence and adopting grey philosophies or clinging to non-dual conceptions of what is going on (as nice and blissy as they tend to sound and feel) all tend to get in the way of you befriending and utilizing the help of the only people who can actually deal with the situation.

Sadly, there are limits to this. Non-dual philosophies etc. are fine and dandy, even work like a charm... until they don't. There comes a time when fence sitting is not an option for you anymore. You might feel neutral and above the fray, but they don't see you that way. To be neutral in the face of real darkness is to tacitly support it. Think of the Swiss and Hitler.

...

The dark and light are not "equal opposing forces." This is illusion... Darkness is sickness, disease and death.

This is so in line with my views that I don't even know what to add, except that my own first experience with demonic possession came when during a high dose mushroom trip in which I was repeatedly trying to find peace in an entity that claims to encompass both light and darkness. What I learned is this: why would you want to embrace both light and darkness? Darkness is suffering, sadness, despair, and it is the enemy of light.

I have read enough Western Occult to know that it is not my thing. I prefer to go to the source material in Kabbalah, Norse, and Druidic info... Zoroastrianism and Gypsy stuff. The problem with Crowley and his ilk is that they gleefully embrace the darkness, and many a young mystic has followed their lead down paths that lead to desolation and ruin.
...

You really don't want any of your hip dark rituals to succeed.

True that. I can corroborate from personal experience.

I think what it really comes down to is this:

The only surefire way to deal with negative entities and parasites is... POSITIVE ENTITIES. Light beings (angels) and the friendly "gods" are able to rid you of the parasites you carry, defend you against attack, and can destroy the dark entities.

to which I would add that while angelic beings are great allies, they are always secondary to the best friend you have, which is God, the source of the light.

Far too much of my life was spent serving, knowingly and unknowingly, the forces of darkness and their proxies, and far too much of my energy was spent studying false paths like nondualism and Crowleyite mumbo jumbo. It's an easy mistake to make that just because something exists in an unseen, spiritual realm, it must be worth peeking at, but this is far from the case.

Hope my post was worthwhile. I know it was for me, just for the sake of sharing a small fraction of my experiences with this sort of stuff.

Post Script:

Hyperspace Fool, if you're still around, I'd really like to hear this story:

I say this as someone who was kidnapped by sorcerer cultists in Mexico, and came this close to being sacrificed.

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