Interdimensional parasites, (alien, demon, etc)

[hug46]

also why are people watching breaking bad -

I don"t know, but i have seen Lost. Which i quite enjoyed. This further emphasizes my thoughts on the pliability and capabilities of the human mind. If you can enjoy that shite, anything is possible!!

If you really want to derail this thread with some crazy arsed tv fodder i recommend the link below. I showed it to my girlfriend and she was so weirded out and disturbed by it that i had to switch it off .

 

[SHroomtroll]

Ive def been under attack by some evil forces lately...


Nothing serious but def something preying on my life long fear of aliens and being alone in the dark.

Its if everytime i end up in a dark room i instantly get images if scary looking aliens and i try to find a light switch asap.


I thought i came over this in the summer when i took a few walks alone in a forest during the evening just ignoring the fear.


Somehow dissiociative drugs seems to totally make this fear vanish but i havent felt like doing them since a ket run this summer.



One theory i have which makes it more interesting is that somehow these aliens are watching me and waiting untill i no lobger fear them. That is when they will come and get me.

 

[Jin]

"Everything is energy and that's all there is to it. Match the frequency of the reality you want and you cannot help but get that reality. It can be no other way. This is not philosophy. This is physics." ∼ Albert Einstein

ok something i just read on SoulCrushingBass's signature , and this is how i am seeing things these days ,

 

[Creo]

Einstein never said that.

The quote is from 'The Ides of March' by Bashar aka Darryl Anka.

 

[Jin]

^^ well i just got that from SoulCrushingBass's signature , i clearly have no idea who wrote that yet i agree with it very much

@hug - i cannot watch the video now because of slow internet connection , maybe in a few days when my internet is restored to normal speeds

 

[sakana]

When I'm in hyperspace and playing around with thoughts ("Let's think about [whatever]") if I think of something or someone I have negative thoughts associated with, be it anger / jealousy / whatever, I often crash out of whatever space I'm in and am greeted by a spider-like entity. Spider but where his head would be is an armless torso with a human head. Sometimes accompanied by MC Escher-like black and white knifes flying through the air.

Not sure if this has relevance, and should also point out that I'm not overly fond of spiders in the real world, or insects in general.

 

[Doodazzle]

Some people do not believe hyperspace is real.

As such, entities are obviously not real.


Science of course can not determine any sort of answer...

I however can determine that ridicule is just sad and nasty. Jin, you come off as seeming to ridicule things which you do not understand, in a few of your posts in this thread. Now, checking out all of your posts in this thread, I do not believe malice was your intent. You offer advice like "come on guys, live in the moment..." something like that, which tells me you are actually trying to help, or something. but the ridicule...ridicule just seems petty, small and possibly insecure. like you are so superior you can just talk down and scoff. maybe uncertainty of your own dogmas makes you feel the compulsion to scoff?

Do I make any sense?

Hey man, even if we are all crazy....(and I guess shamans the world over are like-wise worthy of ridicule...) even if we are all crazy. Well, i speak for no-one save myself--so even if I am bat-guano insane in the membrane, mean-spirited ridicule does not help matters any.

I posted an experience, once upon a time--of my one and only true hyper-slap experience.

I mostly was met with support.

Two posters however came in all helpful, informing me that it was all in my mind...and I remember that that really fucking hurt. I guess i'll just be thankful that they gave me a *little bit more* pain, than I already had. Maybe i'm stronger for it?

Either way, Humbleness and Compassion. Twin medicines that a lot of us could use more of.

 

[Hyperspace Fool]

Yes but you could have a go at the obvious questions. Like where in relation to our bodies is our energy field? Or if the weed punches holes in our energy fields, where does the energy that it removes go? How does it punch the holes? Does it punch the holes like a whole puncher that you use on a peice of A4 paper? Or is it some sort of unexplainable
quantum physics/spiritual inter-connectedness thing?

Good questions.

As I am able to see it, there are a number of fields that are nested, but interact with each other and can even spin in opposing directions. The size of them range from rather small and within the physical body out to as much as 30 ft or more from one's center of gravity. There are also fields around the various chakras.

There is, in addition, a magnetic field that looks pretty much identical to any magnetic field with a positive and negative pole and a toroidial shape.

It is hard to say anything authoritative about the energy fields because they are quite variable. They are not only different from person to person, but change constantly with people's moods and thoughts. Some of the energy fields have been captured and studied by science. The magnetic field is actually well known... as is the bio-electric field captured in Kirlian photography.

Kirlian photo of a hemp leaf.

The phantom leaf effect.

Here is a report from someone (admitedly freaky) who was trying for a phantom leaf effect and discovered something even freakier... something that kind of goes in the direction of the old "Secret Life Of Plants" stuff.


Anyway, the holes are variable... like the tunnels of a block of Swiss Cheese. More than that I can not say, except that they leave you vulnerable.


Make of it what you will.

 

[Hyperspace Fool]

As for the TV tangent...

Breaking Bad rocks. You can't watch some random episode in the middle and understand. Like any of the good serial dramas, you have to start at the beginning and take the whole ride. If you read a chapter of the Lord Of The Rings out of context, you might not get why it was voted the novel of the 20th Century.

People are all into BB now because it ended recently in a glorious ball of dramatic goodness, and those people who missed the action have been forced to listen to their friends fawn and coo over it. A bit like the interest in Michael Jackson after he died.

Anyway... TV recommendations are rather subjective. If you liked Lost and 24, you may dig some of the other shows. I recommend Rome... and Boardwalk Empire has its moments.

I haven't watched Supernatural, but I might give it a shot one day... it kind of struck me as a Buffy The Vampire Slayer update, but I never watched it so what do I know.

 

[Jin]

I however can determine that ridicule is just sad and nasty. Jin, you come off as seeming to ridicule things which you do not understand, in a few of your posts in this thread. Now, checking out all of your posts in this thread, I do not believe malice was your intent. You offer advice like "come on guys, live in the moment..." something like that, which tells me you are actually trying to help, or something. but the ridicule...ridicule just seems petty, small and possibly insecure. like you are so superior you can just talk down and scoff. maybe uncertainty of your own dogmas makes you feel the compulsion to scoff?

Do I make any sense?

yes you do make sense , i am happy some have had the courage to say what i'll only fear

the truth be told the ridicule is not because i want to show an air of superiority or anything , nor do i have any malicious intent ,

i ridiculed the thread , out of fear itself

truth be told i have no idea whether the entities are real or not , yet due to my previous experiences the fear of entities have taken quite a hold on me , i have witnessed aliens and entities sometimes having the power to cause psychic interference in my everyday reality changing bits and pieces , especially when i am smoking weed , so yes i can relate to the holes in the aura thing

however i discard the whole thing as me smoking weed and my creative imagination

also anyone who is not scared of this whole thing is far more brave than me , ridicule is the only way that seems to put me at ease regarding this whole thing

also being totally in the moment seems to interrupt the psychic interference these entities cause , thus i believe it can be a mind over matter thing

what scares me far more than these entities is the tricks i have been learning everyday on the path that i am , i am not talking about paying attention to breath or sound , these are harmless tricks that everyone can practice ,

yet recently i have been learning far more occult tricks directly from Dmt itself ,in the last few months i have started having Godlike control on my everyday reality , i am not going to be talking about these tricks as they can change reality for a person easily , sometimes in the ways the person does'nt expect , these tricks are dangerous at best so i don't talk about them to anyone , i have no idea how deep the rabbit hole goes .......yet it is scary

i cannot choose any other path as psychedelics are the only way for me and sometimes ridicule just helps me take things far easily in a positive direction

also Doodazzle if you've read my threads on celibacy you'll know that i am already way out there in the land of the crazy , don't worry crazy ones , i am one of you

@HF - what are your views on Godmode ?

if we take Godmode into consideration , everything is just a projection from the mind of God , making everything even us unreal in a way ,

if we , humanity , earth and the whole universe is just a projection , where do aliens and demons stand , are'nt they just projections

and is'nt there nothing to fear as we are Gods , and everything even the whole universe just a projection of our minds and soul

i am starting to believe more in Godmode as a way of understanding , rather than the alien/demon concept

also the tricks i am learning are far more occult than anything i have learned before ,

edit : thanks for the recommendations , i'll be checking out rome and boardwalk empire soon , and yes supernatural is quite like buffy's update in certain ways yet that is not what interests me , what interests me is the whole angel-demon , heaven-hell thing they have going on for the past few seasons which is exciting enough for a nutter like me , yet the buffy part which is also prominent in a few of there episodes especially the older seasons , that is no doubt very boring and i understand how you may not want to watch it

also thanks for having the courage to say these things , you know i'll be keeping quiet about the occult no matter what , or ridicule it yet to accept it is quite challenging considering the fear that these things provoke

 

[Doodazzle]

No worries dawg, ah feel ya.


Not sure about how god-mode relates to this topic. i can't seem to talk or think about it intelligently atm....

regarding weed putting holes in ones aura....that sounds like an authoritative statement about the human energy field.

It is hard to say anything authoritative about the energy fields because they are quite variable

 

[hug46]

Two posters however came in all helpful, informing me that it was all in my mind...and I remember that that really fucking hurt.

Doodazzle, i do not know how the responses were worded about your experience. Whether they were rude or not. But i don"t think the idea that these experiences are in your head makes them any less relevant. Getting upset about a critique of your experience by someone on an internet forum will do your energy fields no good at all. The idea that you were really hurt by the comments pains me and i hope that you are ok now.

It is hard to say anything authoritative about the energy fields because they are quite variable. They are not only different from person to person, but change constantly with people's moods and thoughts. Some of the energy fields have been captured and studied by science. The magnetic field is actually well known... as is the bio-electric field captured in Kirlian photography.

Ok. Thankyou for expanding a little bit over the swiss cheese theory. But i am still not getting on how the weed punches holes in the energy fields. Is it because you are more mentally open due to smoking, and so the physical quality of the field changes. Or the holes appear from negative thoughts, like hate and fear or paranoia?
If the latter is the case, then your semi coherent explanation (and i think that the lack of coherence is probably more down to me than you) could produce freak outs for people in relation to worrying about their holes and, as a result of their fears, they continue to inadvertantly punch more holes into their fields.
This has opened up deep philosophical questions for me. One of which is whether to carry on in complete, blissful ingnorance to these percieved threats, or to dwell on them and run the risk of damaging my magnetic fields.

You should write a paper and call it "The swiss cheese theory des champs magnetiques". If the English write a sentence and add a bit of French into the mix they think it sounds more upmarket and sellable. What would you rather eat for pudding.? Burnt ceam or a creme brulee? (not to mention that they speak French in parts of Switzerland, the French make good cheese and "champs magnetiques" sounds quite cool anyway).

i cannot choose any other path as psychedelics are the only way for me and sometimes ridicule just helps me take things far easily in a positive direction

I do not think that there is anything wrong with a bit of ridicule, as long as it is not vicious. Sometimes laughing at your own inneptitude and ridiculing our concepts of reality can be very liberating. I also think it is good to sometimes be serious. We all have our coping mechanisms.

 

[Felnik]

I don't want to get into the middle of this rather envolved thread but i will say that
this parasitic entity theme is one I've experienced quite alot over the course of
many journeys. I've continued to try to see this from a reasonable and rational perspective.
I believe its part of the varied pallet of potential DMT experiences whether we want to look at it or not. I have racked my brain trying to understand it and examine it.

It defies all known rational thought to contemplate this. The problem lies in the undeniable metaphysical nature of this. The issue for me is when noise and human constructs get introduced
into the discussion, I say understandably so. Yet, I believe the concept of good and evil plays no role in this at all.

I think that nature and natural processes hold the key to understanding this ultimately. Is the wasp evil for stinging us? is the ocean evil for drowning people?
is the wolf evil for killing other animals for food?

The human mind is capable of getting things so right and yet by the same token so incredibly wrong.

In my last semi-parasitic encounter I asked this rather oppressive light entity for the hundreth time what it was as it seemed to probe my mind and body in a routine I've experienced endless times. Its response was "I am YOU" I've recieved this answer countless times. What is the truth?

 

[Redguard]

I have a very... different view on these things then most. I have experienced an entity and this experienced eventually turned out "demonic" in nature and it was something I had to face. Through this ordeal I went through an intuitive awakening, faced my own fears, and eliminated many weak points in myself. At the end of the day i'm more sane now then I was 15 years ago, and in part this entity is to thank for that. I don't see things as good or evil anymore but if I could describe what I experienced it one word it would be chaos. I don't believe there's any higher order to these things due to their chaotic nature, therefore I doubt there is some agenda to destroy civilization by these entities. To destroy order would create an inbalance, and fundamentally I don't believe it would be possible. I think many people here give them power with their own belief systems, in many ways the reality we experience is effected by our beliefs. My advice is to experience without expecting and make your own conclusions about it. Besides, that is the path any philosopher would take so it should be good enough for you guys.... you are treading on shaky ground here. You may invite yourself to experience something you definitely did not want too

 

[Hyperspace Fool]

@ Jin

I appreciate the candor. I took your posts in that light to begin with... and I know you a bit already, so I never mistook any of it as mean-spirited or as ridicule. After all, you are pretty firmly on the "through the looking glass" side of the Nexus as far as I can see.



Godmode: Hmmmmm. Not sure what to say about this. I have experienced it. I think most serious psychonauts get there at some point. When the walls drop, there seems to be only one mind at work, and we become aware that we are one of its infinite appendages. (maybe a follicle on a digit of a limb of an appendage...)

But, at least on some level, being part of the "all that is" does entitle us to consider it as our identity. Saying it too loudly can get you locked up... unless you do it in a rap like Saul here:

[YOUTUBE]

Lyrics from 4:49:

so never question who I am, God knows

and I know God personally

in fact he lets me call him me

in fact he lets me call him me


never question who I am, God knows

and I know God personally

in fact she lets me call her me

in fact she lets me call her me

I guess I can only say that I know what you mean... and when it is working for you, let nothing in creation stand in your way. hehehee.

As for the question of how all can be the dream of an omni-mind and still contain demons and evil... I can only direct you to 10,000 years of philosophy on the subject. My opinion on the matter fluctuates a bit, so you will have to make up your mind for yourself. I will just say that when your bliss and godmode come to an end, you are often faced with that sinking feeling that you may have been falling prey to lovely delusion... until it comes back and you know better once again.

Life is indeed something of a dream, and as such, it doesn't always make perfect sense... and nightmarish episodes can sneak up on you and take glorious heavenly experiences and upend them rather quickly if you are not keenly aware.

 

[Hyperspace Fool]

@ hug46

I like "The swiss cheese theory des champs magnetiques" idea. :lol:

I will have to consider formulating this stuff into such a document one day. It is not my main field of expertise though, and it might take me a while to get around to it. Also, it is a super tricky area to pin down.

The variability involved in subtle energies and the fact that we tend to lump all extra-sensory energies into a single category makes it rather difficult indeed. We perceive such small and narrow bandwidths of the energies we know about already, that we are like unto being functionally blind. We perceive a vast world as through a tiny keyhole. Even those of us who can see chi and shen to some degree merely have a slightly wider keyhole.

One day, perhaps, we will see the world as it really is... and it will likely drive us mad. Just to see all the radio waves and microwaves around us would cause most people to melt down.

The subtle electric and magnetic energies that we are talking about are very sensitive to thought and emotion... but I don't think that tuning them out for fear of our negative thoughts making us more vulnerable is the way. We have to sack up and face the reality of our situation calmly. If you found out that thieves were coming into your house every night via some side door that was unlocked, you would be wise to find that door and install some deadbolts and motion sensors. You may also need to get the police (or at least some rent a cops) to come and scare off the bastards. Shivering in your bed and hoping that they don't hear you and come into your bedroom is not a viable long term option.

My 2c.


@ Felnik As per my comments to Jin. Entities can be "YOU" and still be independent and adversarial to you. My white blood cells are me, as are a plethora of bacteria cells... but the white blood cells will still attack and kill other cells that make up me and my various systems. A human body has more bacterial cells than so-called human cells, so in this way something can be a parasite and still be part of you.

 

[Felnik]

I guess the question remains , what are these entities taking
From us ? I recieved a clear message the other day as
One of these typical invasive things slowly descended on me .
The message was " growing sickness "

I tried to test the message by attempting to scramble the words
And see if it was my mind fixating on a phrase but the message kept returning .
I'm not sure what it means if anything .

I might ask, do you think this repeated entity
Contact is a growing sickness of some kind ?
The next question is what was telling me this ?
My hunch is the caapi is the messenger perhaps
Giving a warning .

Have we become hosts of some kind to something diabolical .?
Is it a conscious manifestation of dissparent or negative thought
Assembling itself into a archetypal paranoid alien parasite delusional storyline ?

There must be something to this

 

[Jin]

just some theory -

somehow i am starting to believe consciousness and our energy fields are quite related or almost one

as we are mostly conscious of what is around us and our energy field also exists just around us

if consciousness and our energy field is connected in this way

cannabis maybe altering this tremendously , some of us can definetly see into Astral worlds when we smoke cannabis ,

its as our consciousness leaves our present surroundings partially and travels into another realm (some might even see this as consciousness traveling nowhere but another realm traveling over here , sometimes i even see it like that ) , this is where the holes in our energetic fields might come into play (and psychic interference )

it can be cannabis is allowing our consciousness to escape our immediate surrounding and travel somewhere , only nearby perhaps considering the magnitude of the Astral planes

yet if our energy fields are housing our consciousness , the only way for our consciousness to travel outward of this energy field and our immediate surroundings , a hole is definetly required

without a hole our consciousness might never be able to travel anywhere , as this energy field will keep our consciousness intact within our surroundings as is when we are sober ,

infact meditation and reality tricks that are aimed to keep us in the present moment could be a brilliant way to keep the energy field intact , and infact thats is what all meditative techniques are doing , keeping our consciousness here in the present moment rather than the thought realm ,

if this energy field is housing consciousness as seems most logical , considering both the energy field and consciousness exists only immediately around us

the holes in this energy field can be responsible for much of our thinking process which pushes us out of the present into something that does'nt really exist in a technical sense like the past/future , thus the reason for all our worries , fear and much negativity

also our consciousness traveling to the astral realm or the astral realm coming over here is quite the same thing if you look at it from both angles

i am not still believing in anything out of fear of knowing these things , sometimes not-knowing or ignoring is the way as it is for me

i have quite beautifully ignored hppd,tinnitus and much more out of fear itself , so i am not changing my path , not-knowing , doubting , and ridiculing is the only way for me

yet i have a great amount of respect for those far courageous than me who choose to explore such subjects rather then hide from them or shun them like how i do

much love and respect everyone

 

[hug46]

The issue for me is when noise and human constructs get introduced
into the discussion, I say understandably so. Yet, I believe the concept of good and evil plays no role in this at all.

I think that nature and natural processes hold the key to understanding this ultimately. Is the wasp evil for stinging us? is the ocean evil for drowning people?
is the wolf evil for killing other animals for food?

The human mind is capable of getting things so right and yet by the same token so incredibly wrong.

Maybe our constructs of good and evil are necessary for the continuation of the species. If someone was baring down on me, with a grimacing face while brandishing a club, i would see them as not very nice (or evil), and either get out of their way or hit them first. But i do think that our concepts of good and evil have been manipulated and bastardised over the years and can send us in the wrong direction.
It is just that the entities that i have encountered have been so strange looking that i could not put a finger on whether they are "evil" or not. My state of mind definitely plays a part in how i percieve and interact with them and i think that they can react to a negative thought before i even consciously realize that i have had the thought.
If they are real there could be a symbiotic relationship going on. I know that these experiences are tremendously personal for people and i have always seen the entities that i have encountered as a part of me. This disturbed me a little bit to begin with, but i have come to terms with the fact that there may be a part of me that is weirdly inhuman.

I don't see things as good or evil anymore but if I could describe what I experienced it one word it would be chaos. I don't believe there's any higher order to these things due to their chaotic nature, therefore I doubt there is some agenda to destroy civilization by these entities.

I can relate to that. There are times when i have felt sorry for them. Although i am very much intrigued by what i see in hyperspace, i wouldn"t want to live there. I guess they might feel the same way if they visited us.

One day, perhaps, we will see the world as it really is... and it will likely drive us mad. Just to see all the radio waves and microwaves around us would cause most people to melt down.

maybe we already do. It"s just that most of the time we don"t realise it.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/11/131113162533.htm

If psychedelics enable us to see things that normally hidden perhaps this is not healthy in evolutionary terms. These things are normally hidden from view in order for us to not be distracted while we get on with hunting, mating and nest building. Having observed the things that i have, i tend to find that i spend far too much time mooning around wondering what it"s all about, rather than getting on with my work.

 

[ZenSpice]

Threads like this are why the Nexus is one of a kind :thumb_up:

Oh and I really hope to spend a little time at one of Hf's proverbial tea parties one day. I reckon I would come out the other end much better equipped to handle hyperspace for it.