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curiousexplorer101

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Hi All,

I have read many articles on this site and really value the thoughts and opinions of you all. I was introduced to spice around 3-4 years ago by one of my good friends and have had several successful trips into hyperspace. I have done a few tek's and got the technique pretty sorted.

The reason for finally joining up was the last three trips I have had have been really odd. Let me explain.

The first odd experience was as follows :-

1. I loaded up 50mg in a pipe with a little bit of green and went through my usual preparation. Light music in my spare room with low level lighting but for some reason I was super nervous, to the point I was shaking. ( I probably should've not bothered with the trip after this point) - Anyway I took the hit and led back and the usual CEV started, fractals and the start of lift off. Then all of a sudden all of the CEV were replaced with a blackness I have never seen before. The whole trip then seemed to be cut short. After a journey previously I would lie for a little period of time and relax and comprehend the whole experience. I left it for around 1 hour and loaded up another 50mg and this time the trip was kind of unusual in the sense that the visuals CEV were all distorted like in the form of warning lights and not the usual overwhelming trip to visit energies etc.

One thing I did think about is that I use the same pipe over and over again so it is very likely to have some DMT oxide residue in the pipe which I know has a very different action compared to pure. Also I had previous before the trip been drinking alcohol which I know isn't recommended.

2. The last experience was on Saturday just gone - I didn't have any scales so eyeballed 40//50mg. The trip started really well and I could see a wealth of fractals and then started visiting some beings - One took a dislike to my presence and I then felt pushed elsewhere to another place. I then spent the rest of the trip where leaves and plants were wilting and dying and that feeling of warning signs was experienced.

I had been doing some coke earlier that day and again I know this is not recommended either.

My thought process on all of this is to leave the DMT alone for a while lead a more healthy lifestyle / not do coke. I went for a run today and plan to start exercising a lot more.

The other thing to note is my wife recently had a breakdown after having cancer a few years ago so I am not in the best place mentally either which I think will have a big affect on the trip too.

After writing this I think I know what I need to do. Exercise / no class A drugs or EtOH / Meditate...

I am even going to start microdosing shrooms to gain some mental balance too.

Any thoughts or comments or any input would be warmly received...

Could this be the DMT trying to tell me I am shitty person?
 
curiousexplorer101 said:
Could this be the DMT trying to tell me I am shitty person?
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What an odd question? What do you think? Are you a shitty person? I think your opinion on that is the only opinion that matters.

As far as mixing alcohol and DMT, your likely not to get very deep with this combo. It can provide a fun recreational experience. I have been known to swig back a few beers and whiskey and vape some DMT. For me it is all simply for fun when I have done this. If you want to go deep with DMT, then I suggest to avoid alcohol.

Marijuana can also get into the way of the DMT experience. It feels like it dulls it to me. Each to their own, some people enjoy the combo and a welcome familiar friend of marijuana along for the ride.

Cocaine is not a good mix with DMT at all I would think. Never thought about that combo before. Personally I would avoid it. Cocaine and drinking a couple times a year can be fun. Gotta keep that stuff in moderation me thinks. Easy to get carried away.

What exactly are you looking to get out of DMT? Is this for recreational use? If so, just have fun! Simple. If you are looking to delve deep into your mind and explore your conciousness then I suggest a respectful approach. No alcohol. No marijuana. No cocaine. You could certainly entertain other combos like LSD or shrooms with DMT. Really think about what you want to get from these experiences and let that guide you for intention and goals. I think you will find the experience can have a lot more clarity with a healthy approach.

If the thought pops in your head that you are a shitty person I would examine that and where it is coming from. Maybe there are some things in your life that could use some extra attention at this time? Rearrage some priorities and such? Redirect your path towards something more positive? That sort of thing.

Good luck with it all!
 
endlessness said:
Welcome to the Nexus!

curiousexplorer101 said:
After writing this I think I know what I need to do. Exercise / no class A drugs or EtOH / Meditate...
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Sounds like a great plan, and that you 'understood the message'.

Check this and the other links there if you haven't yet

Be well!
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Thanks for the replies - I didnt really know where to turn for advice / support so you guys are a real help.

I guess I kinda feel guilt for putting my wife through various situations and in a weird way feel that I could have been there more. She's been through the mill having breast cancer and now working through a mental breakdown. I guess that's the reason for questioning me personally being shitty.

I've paid it some more thought and it occured to me I dont really smoke weed very often any more so the capacity for weed to subdue / affect the trip would be increased due to lower tolerance. In fact it makes me a little paranoid I guess, which again isn't a good setting for DMT.

Anyway it has really touched me in the sense it was the first thing I woke about when I woke this am.

I have 200mg left which I'm going to give to a mate as I'd like to get things in order more before I venture down the rabbit hole again. It will defo be sober and without any other drug.

In terms of why i smoke DMT it really intrigues me and cerainly do not regard it as recreational.

I'm going to pay this a lot more thought and once again thanks for the views / replies.

On another i'm going to start microdosing mushrooms tomorrow to help me work thrpugh this amongst other life situations.

Peace all
 
endlessness said:
Welcome to the Nexus!

curiousexplorer101 said:
After writing this I think I know what I need to do. Exercise / no class A drugs or EtOH / Meditate...
Click to expand...

Sounds like a great plan, and that you 'understood the message'.

Check this and the other links there if you haven't yet

Be well!
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Thanks for posting this - A good friend suggested the same thing.
 
endlessness said:
Welcome to the Nexus!

curiousexplorer101 said:
After writing this I think I know what I need to do. Exercise / no class A drugs or EtOH / Meditate...
Click to expand...

Sounds like a great plan, and that you 'understood the message'.

Check this and the other links there if you haven't yet

Be well!
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Thanks for posting this - A good friend suggested the same thing.
 
Combining ego dissolving drugs with ego developing drugs doesnt sound like a wise decision. I wish people first sort out their lives and have peace of mind before they try to solve the unsolvable (Psychedelic experience). Why dont you give your brain/body/mind a huge break and sort your life in every aspect?

Are you trying to escape from your current reality? With these substances
Are you self medicating? Emotional Pain
Your future is based on your present and your present is based on your past
The results you get are the effort you put into it

Good Luck :thumb_up:
 
Th Entity said:
Combining ego dissolving drugs with ego developing drugs doesnt sound like a wise decision. I wish people first sort out their lives and have peace of mind before they try to solve the unsolvable (Psychedelic experience). Why dont you give your brain/body/mind a huge break and sort your life in every aspect?

Are you trying to escape from your current reality? With these substances
Are you self medicating? Emotional Pain
Your future is based on your present and your present is based on your past
The results you get are the effort you put into it

Good Luck :thumb_up:
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All valid questions and points.

Cheers man
 
Th Entity said:
Combining ego dissolving drugs with ego developing drugs doesnt sound like a wise decision. I wish people first sort out their lives and have peace of mind before they try to solve the unsolvable (Psychedelic experience). Why dont you give your brain/body/mind a huge break and sort your life in every aspect?

Are you trying to escape from your current reality? With these substances
Are you self medicating? Emotional Pain
Your future is based on your present and your present is based on your past
The results you get are the effort you put into it

Good Luck :thumb_up:
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After initial thoughts im not trying to escape reality with these compounds. Also I wasn't doing the 2 compounds at the same time. I vaped the DMT later in the day.

But thanks for the comments and apologies I didn't intend to annoy with initial post.
 
Yes i understood that you didnt consume both cocaine/dmt or alcohol/dmt at the same time but it doesnt matter even if it was on different days because that affected your brain/neuro chemistry.

After initial thoughts im not trying to escape reality with these compounds.
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Are you 100% sure? If yes, then why are you consuming specifically alcohol/cocaine?

Cheers!
 
Th Entity said:
Yes i understood that you didnt consume both cocaine/dmt or alcohol/dmt at the same time but it doesnt matter even if it was on different days because that affected your brain/neuro chemistry.

After initial thoughts im not trying to escape reality with these compounds.
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Are you 100% sure? If yes, then why are you consuming specifically alcohol/cocaine?

Cheers!
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Understood about the neuro chemistry. I studied chemistry and work in the industry

One of my friends was over and we had a few beers with a few lines. We were playing guitar. So not to escape reality.
 
Ok :lol:
I hope you make positive changes in your life
Good Luck and i wish you happiness! :thumb_up:
 
Th Entity said:
Ok :lol:
I hope you make positive changes in your life
Good Luck and i wish you happiness! :thumb_up:
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Thanks brother. I think coming here to write things down is a start.

Really appreciate the well wishes. Peace
 
dragonrider said:
I think we all have these moments that we feel we're a shitty person maybe?
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Agreed but I guess if we dont acknowledge we are shitty then we do not improve as people. This recent experience has shaken me a lot as I fear I have disrespected the molecule and need to learn my lesson.

On another note I have another theory as to the last 3 experiences not being ideal. The pipe I use the smoke dmt is pretty old and has a LOT of old residue in it. I recall a few years ago when I'd take numerous blast offs in a night where the first i.e. freshly loaded pipe was mind bendingly beautiful and then if I smoked an unfinished bowl it would be a weird and have a sinister feel. I'm wondering if the residue has a part to play too.

I have circa 200mg left which im giving away and when im ready ill make some pure white crystals and get a new vaping / smoking apparatus.

I think the point is to assume I need to learn and integrate previous lessons first and then leave nothing to chance with regards to paraphenalia.

I really do appreciate the time people have taken to reply and I dont want to think I dont have respect for the compound. It both petrfies and amazes me beyond belief and I 100% do not regard it as recreational.

Peace
 
dragonrider said:
I think we all have these moments that we feel we're a shitty person maybe?
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Asking the question truthfully is the first and seemingly hardest step, acknowledgement, honesty and an ability to move foward seemingly have no choice but to fall into place.

OP:
I think we may get along,) good on you for taking "it" onboard, stepping away sober to reconcile.

I think you may enjoy your next experience as it will be with a mutual respect between you and the experince maker.
 
pineninja said:
dragonrider said:
I think we all have these moments that we feel we're a shitty person maybe?
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Asking the question truthfully is the first and seemingly hardest step, acknowledgement, honesty and an ability to move foward seemingly have no choice but to fall into place.

OP:
I think we may get along,) good on you for taking "it" onboard, stepping away sober to reconcile.

I think you may enjoy your next experience as it will be with a mutual respect between you and the experince maker.
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Thanks for the post. To be honest this experience has made me question myself significantly. I need to really take a long hard look at myself in order to move on. I'm catching up with a friend who originally gave me my first glimpse into that space tomorrow so expect he can help by listening.

The other thing I have considered is I didnt extract the dmt i have so have no idea of purity or tek used which is the first time I havent done it myself. I think there is something in doing the extraction yourself and you get to nurture and take it through the process.

All in all I'm pleased I have started to really think and consider how to resolve this.

Once again all of the replies have been really helpful and it just goes to show what a thoughtful, educated community this is.

Cheers & Peace
 
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