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Irregular sleeping patterns and DMT

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BenevolentSon

BenevolentSon

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I work late nights and sleep in some day light hours. I hear this can mess with your body functions. Since DMT is released to make us dream I was wondering if these type of sleeping patterns could have any sort of effect with DMT.
 
I don't really have an answer to your question but I just wanted to jump in to say that it is purely speculation that DMT has anything to do with dreaming.

i can tell you that i've known someone who works nights and sleeps in days and she had a great DMT experience.
 
K cool, I didn't think there would be any issues whatsoever and I doubt there will be, just thought I'd cover all angles :D
 
ok im a newb but ima try to answer this, dmt is created in the stomach, and it is a wife's tale that it "causes" dreams it may help in some way we don't know. but irregular sleep patters are ok, just take vitamin D and you will be fine.

ok i may be wrong and please correct me but this is my understanding from what i have read so far.
 
why would a neurotransmitter be created in the stomach?

I don't think anyone knows specifically where in the body DMT is created
 
I actually too have heard it's created in the stomach (I personally do not believe this, but I have heard it somewhere). Wherever it is created though, how are we to tell whether or not it's what makes dreams?

There just isn't enough research about it to say for sure. I read someone on Nexus mention it had an effect on how they felt when they'd wake up in the morning, but I don't want to misquote him so take that vaguely, but as far as I know I don't think it effects sleep patterns. Maybe some people with experience could fill us in on their experiences?

I'm curious about this too, good question BenevolentSon.
 
The stomach has a pretty extensive part of the peripheral nervous system within it. From what I understand, we know that the lungs produce DMT in mice, and there's some evidence the heart and stomach also produce it.
 
When I take a very powerful journey through changa land I spend the next few days sleeping only in fits of a few hours. I dream and still feel awake but but I awaken very tired for long periods. It is strange that it does this to me as I do not recall it occuring years ago. Maybe I am getting old.
 
yeah when i read that it was created in the stomach the reason being we have enzymes that recycle them and they have no effect unless we disable those enzymes likes using maoi... aya

i never read too deep into it, i read more stories of people saying i saw a vision from Jesus!!!

although i want to know who heard God telling them to circumsize there own penis.
"no no i assure you it will be a sleek look" said God
hahahah "Year one" micheal cerra great movie
 
Vector said:
why would a neurotransmitter be created in the stomach?

I don't think anyone knows specifically where in the body DMT is created
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Beleive it or not your gut actually uses more serotoin than anywhere else in your body! Like a third brain almost

I'm fairly certain there are scientific articles discussing the evidence that shows dmt is produced by the heart and lungs, and is also present in spinal fluid-but its late, this isn't my computer (mine broke ): and i have a lot of work to do...so dig away! 😉 clickme
 
Vector said:
why would a neurotransmitter be created in the stomach?

I don't think anyone knows specifically where in the body DMT is created
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"A widely distributed neurotransmitter, serotonin, is found in blood platelets, the lining of the digestive tract, and the brain. It causes very powerful contractions of smooth muscle, and is associated with mood, attention, emotions, and sleep." [Neurotransmitter - Characteristics Of Neurotransmitters]

i suppose this is a little off-topic from the original post but i figure it's good info nonetheless. serotonin is 5HT - 5-hydroxytryptamine - a tryptamine ;) and its presence in the digestive tract figures into digestive disorders, etc. Also, DMT acts in serotonin receptors, so DMT and serotonin are closely related little fellows ;)

"In addition to being a major neurotransmitter involved in brain function, serotonin is also used in the gut to help regulate digestion. This is a perfect example of why there might be a special relationship between brain function and diet." [http://neuromolecular.wordpress.com/2007/05/22/intestinal-serotonin/]

:) Much of our current knowledge base on DMT is speculative, and also experiential. That said...I too can corroborate that working night-shift hours and sleeping during the day doesn't seem to have any negative effect on ingested DMT experiences.
 
As far as I'd known up until now, is that the generally accepted THEORY as to where DMT is produced endogenously , is the pineal gland, it has the right proteins in abundance and is known (factually) to produce other tryptamines.

I may be wrong , as the theory could be.
 
As far as I'd known up until now, is that the generally accepted THEORY as to where DMT is produced endogenously , is the pineal gland, it has the right proteins in abundance and is known (factually) to produce other tryptamines.
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Pineal gland thing was pure speculation in regard to dmt. The enzyme that makes dmt is not found there so there is evidence to the contrary.
 
When I wake up from dreaming, I am often greeted with light-mild DMT patterns. Also smoking DMT usually makes me sleepy 1/2 an hour-several hours afterwards. If I smoke it in the morning, I usually cannot bare to be awake past 11 at night from the sleepiness.
 
Ah ok, i retract that then.
How is it known what enzyme makes DMT?if we dont know where its made we dont know the process do we? and where is that enzyme found?
 
gobalswg said:
When I wake up from dreaming, I am often greeted with light-mild DMT patterns.
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Yeah, me two. There is definately some link between dreaming and the psychedelic state if you ask me.
That doesn't has to mean that your brain is on DMT when you dream though. Maybe DMT triggers some mechanism that is also happening when you're dreaming, without DMT.
 
But the pineal DOES routinely produce other things around 3-4am that CAN be extremely psychedelic and interact with Caapi/DMT... like MELATONIN. :shock:

In my experience, these effects have only become pronounced enough to notice after long-term regular work with Ayahuasca and a hormone-rich, chemically complex, plant food diet... but it's definitely worth noting. :shock: Just because DMT isn't produced in the pineal does not necessarily invalidate all the claims of strange late-night activity--it just means that it's not necessarily DMT!

Most of my endogenous, late-night experiences feel much closer (though not quite identical) to a Caapi-only brew. Homeopathic amounts of melatonin, in the dark, induce an open-eyed hypnogogia and extremely loud carrier wave. The experience usually lasts 3-5 hours, which is beyond the time supposedly needed to metabolize melatonin (45 minutes), so this says to me that SOMETHING else is happening.

Not sure what. ;) I am no scientist, but I know my own body enough to know that something is definitely going on.
 
ms_manic_minxx said:
But the pineal DOES routinely produce other things around 3-4am that CAN be extremely psychedelic
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Oh wow. Thanks Minxx. That may acually explain a lot for me. But do you mean when your just asleep or also at 3-4 when your awake too? I've had really awesome feelings come over me occasionally always around that time in the morning, which either produced a nice life realisation or a pretty amazing moment (being outside observing the night sky and such)

BTW where did your trip report go about the Kundalini/Naked dude? Did it get taken down? I loved that report! Was very kind of you to share something so personal and profound.

Peace and Love.
 
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