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Is this Spice pure enough to smoke? Should SWIM wash?

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BiNz

Phil
So SWIM recently did a nice extraction from 1lb of MHRB (first time.) The spice looks and smells pretty pure & white.

Is there any reason to do an ammonia wash on the spice? SWIM doesn't want to lose any spice.

You can see a couple brown specs of stuff. But it's pretty rare/small.
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This pile shows the thickness.
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A close up shows the brown specs a little better.
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Overall i feel that it looks pretty pure. Is there going to be any impure white stuff other than DMT in the spice?
SWIM still has 2 more bowls to scrape.
 
haha ok thanks guys! I am not an avid smoker so i need to get a pipe from the head shop. Too bad they are all closed on sundays. Should smIm get a freebase pipe?
I know about the "machine" and i don't want a ghetto rig... i would rather pay money for a solid pipe.

This will be SWIM's first time smoking elfspice so he wants to do it right.

:)
 
i'm 100% for making enhanced leaf (putting the spice into a smoking blend) and using that in a bud pipe or bong or whatever. Check pages 14-16 of the LexTek

I've heard great things about the machine too, but i most certainly wouldn't be fucking around with a crack pipe
 
Coschi said:
i'm 100% for making enhanced leaf (putting the spice into a smoking blend) and using that in a bud pipe or bong or whatever. Check pages 14-16 of the LexTek

I've heard great things about the machine too, but i most certainly wouldn't be fucking around with a crack pipe

hm you bring up a great point. If anyone ever saw a freebase pipe in my possession that really wouldn't be very good.
The smoking blend does sound like a great idea. My friend actually has some Calea Zacatechichi that he ordered a while back. Maybe i will look into using that.

But swIm would like to try straight DMT though. i will check out what is available at the headshops around town tomorrow.
 
Coschi said:
i'm 100% for making enhanced leaf (putting the spice into a smoking blend) and using that in a bud pipe or bong or whatever. Check pages 14-16 of the LexTek

I've heard great things about the machine too, but i most certainly wouldn't be fucking around with a crack pipe
Link please ve looked but cant seem to find it
 
Is that right out of the freezer? Chances are there are things you don't want to smoke. I would really recommend being safe and at least recrystalizing in naptha or heptane, you will get a much better, stronger product. Most people recrystalize at least once if not several times, no need for a wash if you do it that way and you don't have to worry about losing much..
 
Dioxyde said:
Is that right out of the freezer? Chances are there are things you don't want to smoke. I would really recommend being safe and at least recrystalizing in naptha or heptane, you will get a much better, stronger product. Most people recrystalize at least once if not several times, no need for a wash if you do it that way and you don't have to worry about losing much..

Dioxyde, i followed Marsofold's tek. It requires a naptha pull and freeze-precipitation. Are you saying i should do another recrystallization?
 
BiNz said:
Dioxyde said:
Is that right out of the freezer? Chances are there are things you don't want to smoke. I would really recommend being safe and at least recrystalizing in naptha or heptane, you will get a much better, stronger product. Most people recrystalize at least once if not several times, no need for a wash if you do it that way and you don't have to worry about losing much..

Dioxyde, i followed Marsofold's tek. It requires a naptha pull and freeze-precipitation. Are you saying i should do another recrystallization?

Looking at your pictures I would say you don't need another recrystallization.

Nice work BiNz.
 
Looking at your pictures I would say you don't need another recrystallization.

Nice work BiNz.
Thanks, The Travler.

Big Inhale:
Section 2: Making DMT enhanced leaf
There are two main things to consider: the choice of leaf used, and how strong to make it
Leaf Choice
I’ve had different blends in which the trip varied from electro-psychedelic worlds where all
existence is merely energy, underground swamp lands with towering gangrenous insects, and
gorgeous sunny days in a earth-like place with a psychedelic spin, etc... The overall feel of the
experience is heavily influenced by the leaf; however the plant age and type of the DMT source is
another major factor.
Here are a few herbs which may be used:
(These are just suggestions, experiment away!)
Banisteriopsis Caapi: Contains MAOIs which will potentiate and lengthen the experience
Calea Zacatechichi: Calea is believed to increase dream lucidity and dream recall. Due to the
relationship between DMT and dream-like states, Calea may have a positive synergy.
Heimia Salicifolia: Heimia may increase vision and hearing ability, and auditory hallucinations.
Justicia Pectoralis: Dried herb contains coumarins, which give the blend a smoother taste and a
nice smell. There have also been reports that it can "smooth" the DMT experience.
Turnera Diffusa: Damiana would add a unique smell and taste to any smoking mixture.
DMT to Leaf Ratio
The ratio of DMT to leaf can make a significant impact on the experience. Firstly, the strength of
the leaf implies the amount needed to be smoked for full effects. Making a blend that is too weak
is undesirable as you may need to smoke a huge amount to breakthrough. Making a blend too
strong is fine for the experienced, but harder to dose for the inexperienced. Furthermore, the less
DMT there is in the leaf, the more leaf you need to smoke the more influence the leaf has on
the trip. Sometimes this may be exactly what’s desired. Regardless, careful experimentation is
necessary to result in a pleasant smoking blend.
I find a 1:1 ratio of DMT to leaf to be more than strong enough for more people. Only a small
amount is needed to breakthrough (about a standard level cone).
A 2:3 ratio (2 parts DMT, 3 parts leaf – slightly weaker than 1:1) allows a little more forgiveness if
a cone is overloaded, and gives the leaf more say in the experience.
To make your calculations, a simple formula is used:
DMT
Leaf
DMT
Leaf
R
R
W
W
×
=
Where:
W
Leaf
= Weight of Leaf
W
DMT
= Weight of DMT
R
Leaf
= Ratio: Parts of Leaf
R
DMT
= Ratio: Parts of DMT
As an example, we will use 5 grams of DMT to
make a 2 parts DMT to 3 parts leaf blend:
So we need 7.5 grams of leaf!
5.
7
2
3
5
=
×
=
Leaf
W
Page 15
1. Weigh an amount of the
leaf you wish to enhance
with DMT at the desired ratio
(see above)
Make sure the leaf is
chopped to the consistency
you wish to smoke it at.
Pictured is a mixture
containing 4 grams of Calea
leaf and 3.5 grams of
Brugmansia Sanguinea
flower
2. Weigh the amount of DMT
you wish to use for your
blend.
3. Thoroughly dissolve the
DMT (use about 20mL of
solvent per gram of DMT) in
one of the following:
100% Ethyl Alcohol
Acetone
Isopropyl Alcohol
You want to use a dish wide
enough for your leaf to sit
between 5-10mm high. Too
high is no good (the top leaf
will be weak) and all the dish
must be covered.
Page 16
4. Add the leaf to your DMT
saturated solvent. Swirl it
around so that all the leaf
spread evenly on the bottom
of your dish.
If you need to, add a little
more solvent so that your
leaf is completely covered.
Place your dish in a place
where it will be undisturbed
for several days. For the
amount shown, it took about
four days for the Acetone to
completely evaporate and
the leaf to dry.
5. Once completely dry, you
can weigh your leaf. It should
be heavier by the amount of
DMT you added.
By the way, the 100%
accuracy seen here was a
total fluke and likely it’ll never
happen again. To the
milligram!!
So, now that you have some nice spicy leaf you can go show all your friends and family how busy
you’ve been ☺
DMT is a magical wondrous substance that everyone should know about
Hopefully you’ll soon realise the same things I have
PEACE, and enjoy!

If you have a gmail account you could send the pdf to yourself and then you will be able to view it as HTML... without the pictures. But that is basically it.
 
Hi BiNz your spice looks really clean and pure as it is. I think that is clearly obvious to all who look at your photos. You have to suck it and see. Its your lungs and your throat which will give you final confirmation of the purity of your product. I suspect you are not going to have too many complaints with stuff shown

If however you do decide on a further cleaning step, you should realize that you dont have to irretevably loose any of your product by doing an ammonia wash. Typically you will loose about 10% of your spice with each wash. The fact is you havnt lost any thing. That missing 10% is in the ammonia solution. Do not through away your ammonia effluent. If you recycle it by returning it to the first stage acid bath it can be re-extracted. This also goes for things like coffee filters, dont through anything away. If you think it holds product, acidifiy it. SIMPLE!
 
magic clown said:
Hi BiNz your spice looks really clean and pure as it is. I think that is clearly obvious to all who look at your photos. You have to suck it and see. Its your lungs and your throat which will give you final confirmation of the purity of your product. I suspect you are not going to have too many complaints with stuff shown

If however you do decide on a further cleaning step, you should realize that you dont have to irretevably loose any of your product by doing an ammonia wash. Typically you will loose about 10% of your spice with each wash. The fact is you havnt lost any thing. That missing 10% is in the ammonia solution. Do not through away your ammonia effluent. If you recycle it by returning it to the first stage acid bath it can be re-extracted. This also goes for things like coffee filters, dont through anything away. If you think it holds product, acidifiy it. SIMPLE!

Great, thanks Clown. SWIM has yet to test the product. Still waiting to pick up a smoking device. If the smoke is real harsh then i suspect it has purity issues? If that is the case then i may do an ammonia wash. SWIM has about 4 grams of spice.

I am not sure i follow you on the acid bath to re-extract. Could you give me a quick example of the steps?
Acidify, then Baseify, and finally pull with Naptha?
 
Oh Yes ! Woo HOOO! it looks good ! Can you weigh to confirm % yeild ?! Had we seen the crystals before scraping-up, it might be easier to tell but nice sparkly white 'shards'in the fluff !...there's Heaps ! enough to make some pharmahasca too ! Doesn't it just reek too !?

Just try it and you'll know ! Taste it (just a tip on the tongue - dmt is sour/bitter, lye burns) and vapourize some ..! No need to fiddle with it more until it's tested - you'll knock down yeild a bit each wash etc ... ! 30 mg can go down in one lungful, draw as slow as possible, use a clear glass device to see the vapours form, and 'coming' at you !... (dry bong, 'machine' or long glass pipe) ... and hold your breath for as long as comfortably possible ...
 
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