It's Dark In Here...

[grue]

Everybody knows what happens when it gets too dark...

You can't see.


I'm not sure if I like DMT or not, but it is sure one hell of a drug. and I have so much of it.

I really like working on pulling it, but unlike most other psychedelics I can't keep out of my mouth, I'm not very motivated to move past my two sub breakthrough hits, I was at the time very motivated, while high to keep being more high, but at base level I could care less, I think that's what's putting me off...

 

[grue]

What are the chances my brain knows mushrooms are cheap disreputable girls and that DMT is a classy lady that needs to be wooed? that might explain this.

 

[Infectedstyle]

Well, i vibe with ya on the desire to keep being more high on dmt. but try 5 grams of mushrooms in silent darkness. see if you still want to stay high

Same thing for breakthrough hits. Not to be taken lightly.

How where your trips with dmt? I mean what are the effects for you, i'm curiously interested how you experience this.

 

[grue]

I have done some mushrooms in the dark a few times. I'm very experienced with them. Like I've done about 2 grams of the most wastefully poorly smoked dmt ever, and the effect I did get was prtty profound, more vivid than anything I've ever seen on mushies.


Mushrooms though, you say try five grams, I've eaten an ounce once, which was an incredibly poor decision you kind of 'breakthrough' when you do that, except it's a dark murky and while not entirely terrifying, it wasn't very fun and there's a lot of pictures of me at a party with my fingers in my mouth and my eyes crossed. The funny thing was some guy looked right at me, like 15 minuts before midnight, it was new years, and he goes, "Man, no offense, but you look like shit." and I snapped right out of it. I had been staring at the christmas lights in the dark party, and it turned into a visual representation of my dad and he was angry and running toward me, and I was on mushrooms, and then 3 hours later someone said I looked bad and I was like that's no good and corrected the problem.

Ultimately what I'm going to say is mushroom is fun by yourself but also I think dangerous, like mushrooms is way better socially, while dmt is probably not.

Edit: sorry I went off on a tangent and you asked me a question. IT was the weirdest thing I made some pau darco enhanced leaf, I am diabetic and I wanted to avoid maois for now. I made it like 5 months ago and at the time I tried 3 or 4 tiny, like maybe 4 or 6 grains of tea each time, and it was enough for me to feel like a drug entering my system, but no effects, and I have been freeze precipitating out of dyed naptha cuz its what I have, and people seem to get pretty serious about purity and I didn't bother to research further like is it carcinogenic (it's not) so I was scared and I'm like nope. So randomly a month ago I did a very me thing, I was working the second day of what was going to be 10 days in a row, and I'm lik you know, dmt only last like 10 minutes, and it's like 3 oclock in the afternoon, it'll be fine...

 

[grue]

And unlike any other time I said that, it actually was. Surprise ! DMT was surprisingly kind to me, and put me in a positive happy mood for the whole week, like easy mode. But anyway I loaded up a half a bowl and braced it ontop of a tiny patch of weed this time to not suck it through, I still had bad technique and was focusing on GETTING IT ALL and keeping the flame on it and not trying to get it to burn evenly, but I got enough so that I felt it coming on and then like there's a stud in the door and it came out on a tentacle of the door, made from the door stretching and moving proportionately and properly, and then more tendrils of door stretched out, and it was like 3D movie good 3d better than that. I was like whoah this is far out, so I looked away to the wall beside me, and the wall was glowing blue with pink bricks moving around slightly on it, and I was like neat. And I turn back expecting something else when I turn back to the door, like I Would expect on mushrooms but instead thee hallucination of the tendrils is still basically where it should be, and is still moving around, and as both hallucinations are now in my frame of vision at once they both start to flash and then things started to get more intense and ironically as it intensified the effects wore off and I was coming down, but I thought that was pretty neat.

So I put on a movie on NEtflix, Mr Brooks, and tried another one, this one, I sub broke through I think, like I went purple, I did salvia and broke through once, and I turned into nothing and it felt like that, it was a pop. like a sound but more of a sensation, or as someone said in another post lik fitting into a zipper. I thought that phrase, being fit into a zipper was very apt because as I put the bong down, evrything went purple geometric patterns, like everything was the patterns. And I was the patterns and DMT was te patterns and the whole universe was the patterns. Everything fit into the zipper. And that's why I like the phrase cuz in my mind that's what it was, like it was the idea that everything was the same, everything was one, fundamentally on some metaphysical existential level somewhere and that was real. but similarly this idea was talked about by Val Kilmer in a movie by Vice called the Fourth Dimension in which he plays a fictional val kilmer who is giving help seminars to people and talking about how he had a vision and everyone was cotton candy, orange cotton candy and how good it was to be the cotton candy. So I'm saying, like with psychedelics I have these big profound and revelatory 'insights' but I need to ask myself, did I see that, or did I see what I wanted to see?

Cuz it got fuzz after that, cuz I was back in my house, on th floor and I had physical needs to move. like I kept pacing in irregular patterns and sliding my toes around like it was very important to do these random motions very specifically and this was all part of a ritual to use dmt to become god, cuz if I did enough DMT I could rework reality and not have to go to work tomorrow. And I'll say this, I once misguidedly did 10 acid hits and a half ounce of mushrooms at the same time at a rave. and I woke up 4 hours later sweating bejesus running around, thinking I was god though at that time also being terrified out of my mind and being accosted by a man in a gorilla suit which made me even more frightened, so this is some delusional power fantasy from my childhood and I am self aware enough of this to be you know, like obviously the whole time I kept telling myself I would be going to work tomorrow. I would. But I kept trying to smoke more dmt, going too hard and too fast in my eagerness to even get anything out of it again, and I definitely decided to take a break cuz I know what happens when I let psychedelics get under my skin like that. I say I didn't get off again but like the movie was on and in the intro there's a multimedia presentation, which like I came into reality and thn it was normal for a minute and the prsentation on the movie started and it mushroomed out until my whole apartment was a multimedia prsentation with black and white images flashing on the walls and such.

It was really really cool, but it really kind of got hold of me fast, and now that I'm talking about it I think I just rightly needed to give it a bit of space. I bought a new bong for it today though.

EDIT I actually got to bed on time and got to work on time and had a great day. so that's a point for DMT the other drugs never ever get.

 

[Infectedstyle]

But what DID you see? that was my initial question

If you have so much dmt anyway, i would advice recrystallizing in Heptane. It's not hard to come by, i'm sure. It's used as a rubber cement thinner. You can probably order it online as well.

DMT is some profound stuff. God damn, i love it. I think it is the next step in evolution. The mindspace it can take me is so expansive. I can do stuff on dmt and literally feel my consciousness expand at times and reduce back to baseline when coming down. Back to having only "human" thoughts. I've come to realize it makes me aware of a global consciousness of sorts. And it can do way more than that

I guess your desire for being high stems from your love for sub-breakthrough effects that mushrooms give you (correct me if i'm wrong). An occasional sub-breakthrough can fit into that diet i am sure. Try the occassional transformative mind-expanding trip once in a while, though. You might like it. But take caution. Intergration is key in these things.

EDIT: Ahh, i see you where still typing.. Thanks for the detailed response. It was an interesting read. Your thoughts are all scattered, lol. I think it's funny. Yep... Careful on the delusional thoughts. Simply taking your time as a sort of ritual before ingesting powerful hallucinogens might help in that regard

 

[Ancient Realms]

Cant help to notice but this is where you post your introduction essay... but I guess this explains a lot about yourself and the level of respect you show for psychedelics... not a good look 'grue'.. you should really take it easy and maybe look at learning some valuable lessons that the medicines have to offer rather then just looking for a high and staying high.. tut tut, be careful with what attitude you journey with because the spice can bite you.

peace

 

[Ancient Realms]

There is a lot more going on than just trippy visuals... please be more careful.

 

[grue]

Cant help to notice but this is where you post your introduction essay...

I understand your opinion Ancient Realms and you don't have to like me. That's fine, I like to be open and honest, and someone asked me what DMT was like for me.

I have explained that while I am reckless and wild in my youth with psychedelics, I made this dmt months ago, I have like 10 grams of it lying around, and I smoked it twice about a month ago, found it to be much more wild and crazy than mushrooms and have not touched it since,

I may have made a wild rambling and perhaps even embarassingly detailed trip report here in the welcome forums, but it indicates I am being careful. In fact, that was the point of the whole discussion that unlike my recklessness with other psychs I found that I was not feeling like it was a good idea to go all BINGEY with DMT like maybe I should be careful.

And I had similarly expressed I found it slightly unsettling that when I was up the two times it made me so excited and 'psych delusional' that I burned through the rest of my stuff in a hurry. So I haven't done it again?

I'm just saying I appreciate your concern, but like what have I said allready if it wasnt, I kind of feel like I need to be careful with this stuff... at this point I don't really feel like I want to break through, I'm just continuing to work on making more.


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EDIT: Ahh, i see you where still typing.. Thanks for the detailed response. Smile It was an interesting read. Your thoughts are all scattered, lol. I think it's funny. Yep... Careful on the delusional thoughts. Simply taking your time as a sort of ritual before ingesting powerful hallucinogens might help in that regard Razz

Yeah... I will say this, as it is an introductive essay I had a bad run with hard drugs 10 years ago, a brief and very volatile experience that left my brain a lot less focused than it used to be, and especially when I'm on substances or excited it exacerbates. It's why I have slowed down so much, I mean I'm in here telling stories of excess for no good reason but that' snot really what I do anymore. at this point I really am trying to learn things. I thought it was funny too, and it is, I am aware enough to know when the drugs are making me think funny things. I've thought I was a leprechaun once, it was a very waynes world moment, but my birthday is on march 17th and I'm a tiny bit irish and I was reading harry potter at the time, I know how these things happen.

I'm liking your advice, like what you are suggesting? woudl be like maybe I fast the day before do some meditating, and clear my mind, maybe even add a scientific approach and get a journal to record my thoughts when I come back and prepare before I go? Obviously report about that in the correct section.


... anyway like someone said, I may be in here, demonstrating a sizeable lack of maturity, but it belies my wisdom and I do a lot of reading everyday on here, I'll try my best not to offend anyones sensibilities and keep it down, but sriously, this is a fairly good cross section of what to expect from me and if that's the sort of thing you personally ( whoever you are reading this) feels like they want to avoid, I'm not going to be upset, that's how information is to be used.