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Jorkest's D-Limonene Bufotenine Extraction TEK

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FYI: you can use orange oil instead of d-limonene for nearly all techs requiring d-limonene. Most orange oil is actually about 95% d-limonene (depending on which oranges), which is about as pure as food grade d-limonene.
 
Is the FASA really necessary?

Since FASA didn't remove the bad side effects causing alkaloids in previous extractions, doesn't that mean the d-limonene step is what's getting rid of those undesired components?

I ask because my own personal goal is the best effects (and fewest unwanted side effects) with the least amount of effort, which may entail a slightly different approach from those who like an aesthetically pleasing product with no left over gunk in the smoking device.
 
69ron said:
FYI: you can use orange oil instead of d-limonene for nearly all techs requiring d-limonene. Most orange oil is actually about 95% d-limonene (depending on which oranges), which is about as pure as food grade d-limonene.
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My issue with orange oil is it's quite a vague term for many oilly things with orangey characteristics.

Any clues that should point towards the right stuff would be very greatfully appreciated :)
 
You can make it at home. You don’t need to distill it. You can press the oil out of the orange peel. But you need a ton for just a little bit of oil!
 
ok heres a list of orange oil products...

orange oil - Google Shopping

www.google.com www.google.com

looks like there are many uses for orange Oil... a local organic green house supply company may sell it for pest control even... there are aroma therapy shops, hard ware stores, janitorial supply houses. SWIM is getting some D-limonene from janitorial supply stores... many janitorial supply stores are going green because there has been many health problems from industrial cleaning products...
So... expand your searching areas locally...
health food stores, hardware stores, industrial supply stores, i found 94% pure D-limonene at an industrial supply house... but I was waiting for something better...

Orange Oil has additional waxes in it, many products claim.. those waxs could possibly have an impact in your product... maybe not though... just saying...
 
69ron said:
Can't you buy orange oil at the local health food store?
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It's more of a quantity thing here though. Health and aromatherapy stores tend to sell small quantities for way more than they're worth.

I found this:


But on the MSDS it states that Mineral oil - 90%, D-limonene - 10%

Mineral oil sounds fairly vague.

I found this:


£33 a litre though...
 
If there's a local orange juice company, it's 99% likely that they also produce orange oil because it's a byproduct of the juicing industry. They might be able to get you a bunch of it really cheap if you ask for it.

Not all orange oil is the same, but most orange oil naturally contains high amounts of d-limonene. Food grade d-limonene is just another name for orange oil. It’s just pressed directly from the orange peel and sometimes also distilled.

Italian Orange Oil is normally 93.67 % d-limonene
Valencia Orange Oil is normally 91.4-97.0 % d-limonene

The impurities from distilled orange oil all evaporate away cleanly and are not water soluble.

SWIM uses food grade orange oil that is only 95% d-limonene for all his extractions now. He’s been able to get 99% pure white odorless mescaline using that solvent, with no impurities from the orange oil, so the orange oil impurities are of no consequence if the tech is designed for it.
 
So if something claims to be 100% orange oil is that a safe bet?

Also I'm noticing that many of these orange oils have a shelf life. Is this true for pure D-limonene also?
 
Hey Jorkest, SWIM finally got around to using d-limonene with his freebase bufotenine.

As you know, SWIM’s bufotenine was purified by an A/B extraction followed by a xylene boil and decanted. It’s off white and about 99% pure, but even after drying for a long time there’s still tiny amounts of xylene present and it bothers him.

So anyway, he did a 25 ml d-limonene boil with his remaining 425 mg of off white freebase bufotenine. It all dissolved about a minute before the d-limonene started to boil. It seems like bringing it to a boil may not be necessary and just bringing it to a simmer might be good enough. I believe all you need to do is bring it to the boiling point of bufotenine.

Anyway, it worked quite well. It’s been about 2 hours since and most of it has precipitated out of the d-limonene.

One thing that’s very different between using xylene and using d-limonene is that d-limonene gives you more time to decant the solvent because the bufotenine stays almost completely dissolved many minutes after taking it off the heat source, while with xylene, crystals start dropping out as soon as you take it off the heat source. When decaonting xylene, crystals form as it’s pouring. This doesn’t happen with d-limonene making it easier to use.

The smell of the boiling d-limonene is VERY NICE. Mmmm. Smells like orange juice.

D-limonene is a fantastic solvent.
 
ahh thats some good info..perhaps SWIM will try taking some of his bufo and try that out..perhaps it will make it a bit cleaner...SWIM also noticed that when the d-limonene boils..it starts to turn a little yellow...SWIM cant remember exactly but he thinks it happened after it started to boil..perhaps the d-limonene starts to break down at some temp??

and it sure is an amazing solvent...nothing better! its so surprising that orange oil would be such a wonderful carrier for all these different and wonderful alkaloids! bufotenine..jungle spice..5-meo-dmt..dmt..mescaline(and desert spice...or mescaline friends;))....what about LSA?? what about psilocin and psilocybin?? maybe more!? its also so awesome that it can so easily purify bufotenine...that is one of its biggest awesomest traits..there is nothing this solvent cant do!

SWIM's friends are much happier with d-limonene...they dont think hes killing himself with those nasty solvent fumes...its surprising though..that after boiling some d-limonene how STRONG that orange scent is..SWIM kinda feels like it actually gets him a little high...
 
Would it be possible to skip the aceton/fasa step and just extract with water. Then filter and evaporate. Then pour d-limonene over it and take it to a boil and go on from there.

Would this possibly work, or would it contain a lot of crap?
 
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