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Jorkest's D-Limonene Bufotenine Extraction TEK
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Is there an alternative to Fumaric acid that works just as well? A bit hard to find here in europe.
69ron
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Jorkest, SWIM finally had a little more time to get back to his d-limonene test.
If you recall, SWIM had 426 mg pure off white bufotenine. This was about 99% pure. SWIM went through a lot of trouble to purify it. The problem was that tiny amounts of xylene were present in the crystals and could be slightly tasted. So, SWIM wanted to remove all of the xylene by boiling the crystals in d-limonene. So he did that and the bufotenine melted and the d-limonene turned a little amber colored when the d-limonene started to boil. He decanted it and brown stuff precipitated out of the d-limonene. He decanted the d-limonene and dried the precipitates.
Well, SWIM just scraped up the precipitates and guess what! They only weigh 425 mg with little bits still stuck to the beaker. That's only 1 mg less than the starting material. While scraping out the precipitates, about 5 mg or more spilled out onto the floor. So for it to weigh only 1 mg less is not possible unless additional non-bufotenine material precipitated out of the d-limonene itself.
It smells like orange peels, but doesn't smell like d-limonene anymore. It's completely bone dry. It was dried for a few days at 155 F in a food dehydrator.
So definitely, when the d-limonene boils, some of the d-limonene impurities burn and precipitate out of the d-limonene along with the bufotenine when it cools down. That's why the bufotenine smells like dried orange peels instead of d-limonene.
SWIM's bufotenine is probably now about 10% burnt d-limonene impurities.
I think for this procedure, if you're going to boil the d-limonene, then high purity distilled d-limonene should be used.
Another option if using non-distilled food grade d-limonene is to maybe pre-boil the d-limonene, let it cool and pour off the d-limonene leaving behind all the burnt d-limonene impurities. Then you should be able to use the d-limonene for the bufotenine boil.
However, the added orange flavor is a benefit though. So you might not want to purify it more. But for those who want it 99% pure, you're going to maybe have to use high purity distilled d-limonene or pre-boil the food grade d-limonene, or just bring it to a simmer.
If you recall, SWIM had 426 mg pure off white bufotenine. This was about 99% pure. SWIM went through a lot of trouble to purify it. The problem was that tiny amounts of xylene were present in the crystals and could be slightly tasted. So, SWIM wanted to remove all of the xylene by boiling the crystals in d-limonene. So he did that and the bufotenine melted and the d-limonene turned a little amber colored when the d-limonene started to boil. He decanted it and brown stuff precipitated out of the d-limonene. He decanted the d-limonene and dried the precipitates.
Well, SWIM just scraped up the precipitates and guess what! They only weigh 425 mg with little bits still stuck to the beaker. That's only 1 mg less than the starting material. While scraping out the precipitates, about 5 mg or more spilled out onto the floor. So for it to weigh only 1 mg less is not possible unless additional non-bufotenine material precipitated out of the d-limonene itself.
It smells like orange peels, but doesn't smell like d-limonene anymore. It's completely bone dry. It was dried for a few days at 155 F in a food dehydrator.
So definitely, when the d-limonene boils, some of the d-limonene impurities burn and precipitate out of the d-limonene along with the bufotenine when it cools down. That's why the bufotenine smells like dried orange peels instead of d-limonene.
SWIM's bufotenine is probably now about 10% burnt d-limonene impurities.
I think for this procedure, if you're going to boil the d-limonene, then high purity distilled d-limonene should be used.
Another option if using non-distilled food grade d-limonene is to maybe pre-boil the d-limonene, let it cool and pour off the d-limonene leaving behind all the burnt d-limonene impurities. Then you should be able to use the d-limonene for the bufotenine boil.
However, the added orange flavor is a benefit though. So you might not want to purify it more. But for those who want it 99% pure, you're going to maybe have to use high purity distilled d-limonene or pre-boil the food grade d-limonene, or just bring it to a simmer.
69ron
Rising Star
SWIM mixed 50 mg with 80 mg of calcium carbonate. He placed it under his tongue and pressed his tongue down.
SWIM doesn't use calcium hydroxide for sublingual use anymore. Calcium carbonate works almost just as well and it doesn't burn your mouth at all.
It tastes like orange peels. The bufotenine burns very slightly. The xylene flavor is completely gone! Hurray!
After 5 minutes he started swallowing some of the saliva that's accumulated being carefully to leave his tongue pressed down, holding the bufotenine in place. It sure tastes good. Mmmm.
After 10 minutes the effects have begun with a slight stimulated feeling and some nice euphoria. He's now swallowed everything. (80 mg of calcium carbonate is actually a very good safe source of calcium.)
After 20 minutes visual effects have started. SWIM has the taste of orange peels in his mouth. He feels a tingling sensation in his hands and feet just starting.
SWIM doesn't use calcium hydroxide for sublingual use anymore. Calcium carbonate works almost just as well and it doesn't burn your mouth at all.
It tastes like orange peels. The bufotenine burns very slightly. The xylene flavor is completely gone! Hurray!
After 5 minutes he started swallowing some of the saliva that's accumulated being carefully to leave his tongue pressed down, holding the bufotenine in place. It sure tastes good. Mmmm.
After 10 minutes the effects have begun with a slight stimulated feeling and some nice euphoria. He's now swallowed everything. (80 mg of calcium carbonate is actually a very good safe source of calcium.)
After 20 minutes visual effects have started. SWIM has the taste of orange peels in his mouth. He feels a tingling sensation in his hands and feet just starting.
69ron
Rising Star
I'd like to remind people that ingesting bufotenine orally causes nausea lasting about 3 hours. When taking bufotenine sublingually, if any is swallowed, it will cause nausea, however, you can take 1000 mg of ginger every 90 minutes to avoid the nausea if you do decide to swallow it.
The experience from oral bufotenine is different from smoked, sublingual, or snorted freebase bufotenine. When taken orally, it’s converted to bufotenine hydrochloride, which for some reason causes lots of nausea. Bufotenine is best either smoked or taken sublingually without swallowing it. SWIM can smoke 30 mg and be completely blown away with intense visions and yet have no nausea at all. But if taken orally, it always causes SWIM to get nausea. 30 mg of smoked bufotenine is about as strong as 300 mg taken sublingually or snorted.
The experience from oral bufotenine is different from smoked, sublingual, or snorted freebase bufotenine. When taken orally, it’s converted to bufotenine hydrochloride, which for some reason causes lots of nausea. Bufotenine is best either smoked or taken sublingually without swallowing it. SWIM can smoke 30 mg and be completely blown away with intense visions and yet have no nausea at all. But if taken orally, it always causes SWIM to get nausea. 30 mg of smoked bufotenine is about as strong as 300 mg taken sublingually or snorted.
Mr.0ldtymer
Rising Star
Okay SWIM has just the base line understanding of chemistry but thinks he understands this and seems pretty straight forward.He was wondering two things...
1.Is there any difference in the shelf life of bufotenine freebase and the bufotenine fumarate salt like n,n,dmt?
2.You said that the hot water bath could not be used because the bufotenine melts at 147 C which the water cannot accomplish.So SWIM doesn't have a hot plate and was curious if it would be feasible of preparing a bath of peanut oil to do the job?
1.Is there any difference in the shelf life of bufotenine freebase and the bufotenine fumarate salt like n,n,dmt?
2.You said that the hot water bath could not be used because the bufotenine melts at 147 C which the water cannot accomplish.So SWIM doesn't have a hot plate and was curious if it would be feasible of preparing a bath of peanut oil to do the job?
"absolutely not"
argh you scared the shit out of swim... it had been in the freezer for just a little bit to help it cool down... They are dropping... yellowish clearish brownish CrYsTaLs....
Oh and this by the way was using home depot bought air freshener... pure citrus...
argh you scared the shit out of swim... it had been in the freezer for just a little bit to help it cool down... They are dropping... yellowish clearish brownish CrYsTaLs....
Oh and this by the way was using home depot bought air freshener... pure citrus...
yes..but..what SWIM has found is that if you dont let it get to a boil..you will get cleaner spice from it..bring it close to a boil..and then pour off the d-limo and let it cool..you will get much cleaner LOOKING stuff..SWIM hasnt noticed a difference really..
and when the d-limo is done evapping off your spice..it will smell less like oranges and more like something familiar to your spice cabinet..it smells good..and familiar but you cant quite place it..and it will also turn lighter and lighter the longer it dries
and when the d-limo is done evapping off your spice..it will smell less like oranges and more like something familiar to your spice cabinet..it smells good..and familiar but you cant quite place it..and it will also turn lighter and lighter the longer it dries
I just read in a salvia extraction writeup, that using chilled acetone reduces the amount of oils and fats contained in the leaf. Would this be good practice for a bufotenine tek also?