Just a question about having a real breakthrough..

[sonatine]

I guess this a silly question for you, but I am just a little curious, since I have not had a breaktrough yet, but always have to close my eyes to see the whole trip. What I wonder is: when you have a real breakthrough, do you just have your eyes open and then everything changes around you, and you fly out in hyperspace, still with your eyes open??
And I also wonder, is it possible to have a breaktrough with changa the same way as with pure crystals, or will you never get that far with changa?

 

[gibran2]

I wouldn’t focus too much on achieving a breakthrough. With proper dose, it will come when it comes. However, I personally think it’s best to travel with eyes closed. (You won’t need them to see.)

A high enough dose of changa is every bit as powerful as pure DMT. You can break through with either.

 

[Sky Motion]

I wouldn’t focus too much on achieving a breakthrough. With proper dose, it will come when it comes. However, I personally think it’s best to travel with eyes closed. (You won’t need them to see.)

A high enough dose of changa is every bit as powerful as pure DMT. You can break through with either.

Yeah when you start using DMT it's easy to become obsessed with breaking through. It will come when it comes like gibran said. Changa can go easily as deep if not deeper than smoked freebase alone.

 

[Dream2Awaken]

Personally I like the breakthroughs that begin with your eyes open more, but what I like might not be the same for you. Like the other 2 said I wouldn't put too much stress on breaking through. It will happen when it happens.

 

[Dreamwalker]

I usually close my eyes while smoking and open them now and then to see if I'm actually still completley in this reality or not. If im able to consciously think about opening my eyes I havent broken through just yet. Usually if I have broken through it starts with eyes closed and I must open them without knowing it because I can slowly start to see the room I'm in come through behind my visions. Its a lot like watching a veil lifting as I'm coming back from hyperspace.

 

[Global]

There is much that can be gained from studying open eyed visuals. However, if you're looking to breakthrough, you'll want to have your eyes closed.

 

[Dream2Awaken]

It is a lot easier to breakthrough with eyes closed though. You guys are right.