Just did Gibran2's tek with Syrian Rue. What exactly do I have here?

[behindthelight]

So I did his Caapi tek with 60 grams of Syrian Rue. I ended up with 2.5 gram of this right here:

What is this exactly? Is it pure harmine?

Thanks.

 

[gibran2]

So I did his Caapi tek with 60 grams of Syrian Rue. I ended up with 2.5 gram of this right here:
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What is this exactly? Is it pure harmine?

Thanks.

It’s a mix of harmine and harmaline, with lesser amounts of vasicine, vasicinone, and other alkaloids, and probably a certain percentage of impurities.

 

[behindthelight]

So I did his Caapi tek with 60 grams of Syrian Rue. I ended up with 2.5 gram of this right here:
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What is this exactly? Is it pure harmine?

Thanks.

It’s a mix of harmine and harmaline, with lesser amounts of vasicine, vasicinone, and other alkaloids, and probably a certain percentage of impurities.

Thanks gibran....


What would a good dose of this be?

 

[gibran2]

What would a good dose of this be?

Sublingual: About 15-30mg
Oral: Anywhere from 150-250mg

I personally don’t like harmaline much. It seems to be very rough on me physically – a large oral dose left me feeling sick for a couple of days. I much prefer caapi alkaloids which are mostly harmine.

 

[behindthelight]

What would a good dose of this be?

Sublingual: About 15-30mg
Oral: Anywhere from 150-250mg

I personally don’t like harmaline much. It seems to be very rough on me physically – a large oral dose left me feeling sick for a couple of days. I much prefer caapi alkaloids which are mostly harmine.

Thanks again.

I've never tried any harmalas at all, so this will be a first. I am also going to do your tek with some Caapi so that I can see how I like that as well.

 

[behindthelight]

Ummm...just wanted to post this and see what you think Gibran.


Well, I took 250mg of this stuff in some OJ.

Waited 10 minutes and then took 4.5grams of strong shrooms....same batch....shit wrecked me a month ago....

Well, everything was as normal.....the come up happened about 30 minutes later and shit was intense.....put my music on and started seeing strong CEV....it was on........then, it about a 15 minute period....it went away.....

I mean literally, this syrian rue just killed my 4.5 shroom trip.....sucks so fucking bad......

just a warning for others out there.....don't take this shit before shrooms...

who knows....maybe it will come back....but I've NEVER had this happen before.....

 

[The Day Tripper]

Ummm...just wanted to post this and see what you think Gibran.


Well, I took 250mg of this stuff in some OJ.

Waited 10 minutes and then took 4.5grams of strong shrooms....same batch....shit wrecked me a month ago....

Well, everything was as normal.....the come up happened about 30 minutes later and shit was intense.....put my music on and started seeing strong CEV....it was on........then, it about a 15 minute period....it went away.....

I mean literally, this syrian rue just killed my 4.5 shroom trip.....sucks so fucking bad......

just a warning for others out there.....don't take this shit before shrooms...

who knows....maybe it will come back....but I've NEVER had this happen before.....

IME taking harmalas with trypts usually makes them come on in a more wave like action. Tripping HARD one minute, near sober the next. Assuming your still in the heat of it, don't be suprized if it comes creeping back.

BTW props on your extraction, very nice looking product, and very good yeilds for a first time extraction. I'd give the harmalas a go by themselves once to see what they're all about before mixing with anything, but props for being able to take a 1/4g of rue alkaloids and 4.5g of shrooms and not be floored. Most people would have a blank stare at those dosages .

 

[behindthelight]

Ummm...just wanted to post this and see what you think Gibran.


Well, I took 250mg of this stuff in some OJ.

Waited 10 minutes and then took 4.5grams of strong shrooms....same batch....shit wrecked me a month ago....

Well, everything was as normal.....the come up happened about 30 minutes later and shit was intense.....put my music on and started seeing strong CEV....it was on........then, it about a 15 minute period....it went away.....

I mean literally, this syrian rue just killed my 4.5 shroom trip.....sucks so fucking bad......

just a warning for others out there.....don't take this shit before shrooms...

who knows....maybe it will come back....but I've NEVER had this happen before.....

IME taking harmalas with trypts usually makes them come on in a more wave like action. Tripping HARD one minute, near sober the next. Assuming your still in the heat of it, don't be suprized if it comes creeping back.

BTW props on your extraction, very nice looking product, and very good yeilds for a first time extraction. I'd give the harmalas a go by themselves once to see what they're all about before mixing with anything, but props for being able to take a 1/4g of rue alkaloids and 4.5g of shrooms and not be floored. Most people would have a blank stare at those dosages .

thanks for the reply so soon....yeah, I am in the middle of it right now......it is weird....let's say my normal trips are like a 12 on a 1-10 scale....this is like a 4.......really disappointing.

thanks for the props on the extraction...appreciate that....this was my first time ever....

Yeah, I've been hearing that a lot about taking the harmine/harmaline alone....but I would be shocked if anything happened......I've got a pretty, crazy high tolerance for almost anything...alcohol, shrooms...etc..

I usally take around 7 grams of shrooms....but I wanted to be play it safe since I was taking the rue also...so I figured I would just go with 4.5 grams.

I hope you are right man...hopefully it is in waves and something happens....

thanks again man....

 

[behindthelight]

forgot to mention.....I ate almost nothing today too....couple eggs with some toast at 10am and a small bowl of veggie soup at 3pm.........

 

[behindthelight]

ok.....so you were right....it does come in waves....and it did come back a little stronger.....maybe a 6.....no where near what I am use to.....I like not being able to move at all.. lol


later man

 

[cyantific]

Gilbran2, thanks very much for you easy harmala tek.

I personally don’t like harmaline much. I much prefer caapi alkaloids which are mostly harmine.

I'm just wondering if you have any scientific data to back this up, or is this your opinion? Don't want to seem like I'm challenging you, I'm just interested in the understanding the % of harmine/harmaline in rue and cappi.

 

[gibran2]

Gilbran2, thanks very much for you easy harmala tek.

I personally don’t like harmaline much. I much prefer caapi alkaloids which are mostly harmine.

I'm just wondering if you have any scientific data to back this up, or is this your opinion? Don't want to seem like I'm challenging you, I'm just interested in the understanding the % of harmine/harmaline in rue and cappi.

Take a look at the caapi analysis thread, and you’ll see that caapi is usually mostly harmine with a small amount of THH and an even smaller amount of harmaline. Rue (if I remember correctly) can be 50% or more harmaline, usually with no THH at all.