Just not getting there

[spiritual7pioneer]

Hey everyone.
The past few times vaping my spice,
I see the worm hole, I get close to it..
But I just cant seem to enter into a full trip.
Strange too because I feel completely like im on a high but nothing really goes anywhere.

 

[۩]

Have you tried at least doubling the dose?

Have you tried smoking DMT in the dark?

Have you tried smoking DMT on top of ayahuasca, mushrooms or LSD?

Do you clear your pipe and absorb each hit for ~20 seconds?

Do it.

 

[spiritual7pioneer]

Have you tried at least doubling the dose?

Have you tried smoking DMT in the dark?

Have you tried smoking DMT on top of ayahuasca, mushrooms or LSD?

Do you clear your pipe and absorb each hit for ~20 seconds?

Do it.

I have in the dark, outside
in a house with a mouse...

But yeah I follow the correct procedure, I dont let it reach combustion
and I always make sure to hold them in for a good 20 seconds even more.
I've yet to come across ayahuasca.. But I have fancied the idea of vaping
spice while at the peak of a cid trip.

 

[۩]

Stop weighing your doses and just smoke as much as you can until you leave reality. I don't care if this advice is not politically correct, if you aren't getting where you want to go you have to puff tough. Good luck.

 

[olympus mon]

Stop weighing your doses and just smoke as much as you can until you leave reality. I don't care if this advice is not politically correct, if you aren't getting where you want to go you have to puff tough. Good luck.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: OMG thats going in the memorable quotes House!

But seriously I more or less agree with this. Jorkest's method we discussed at Bm last year of loading the VG fully and hitting it until you cant anymore or until your sure your going in is a good method. It could cause black outs and amnesia journey's until you get it down but it certainly reduces the amount of dud's and can assure a breakthrough.

I agree many will probably not care for this method but if you hold the hits in as long as possible you should be in hyperspace and not able to vape any more before you go over board.

OP- take this all in reason, don't be crazy about it but yes sometimes measured dosing can be a problem I have found unless your technique is spot on efficient. If you load 35mg but dont hit it perfectly to get all 35mg in you properly your screwed. Your not breaking through and there isn't anything left in the pipe. This was a common problem when I was learning how to vape.

 

[emptymind]

Stop weighing your doses and just smoke as much as you can until you leave reality. I don't care if this advice is not politically correct, if you aren't getting where you want to go you have to puff tough. Good luck.

Maybe get a couple of pieces of foil, like 1 x 1 inch squares, and put 10mg on each. Fold them down the center so it will be easy to pour the spice off of them into your bowl. Then load your smoking device with whatever your initial dose is, and take it. After taking the hit, while you are holding the vapor in, pour the next dose into your bowl and take that. Repeat until you have left this dimension.

 

[olympus mon]

Stop weighing your doses and just smoke as much as you can until you leave reality. I don't care if this advice is not politically correct, if you aren't getting where you want to go you have to puff tough. Good luck.

Maybe get a couple of pieces of foil, like 1 x 1 inch squares, and put 10mg on each. Fold them down the center so it will be easy to pour the spice off of them into your bowl. Then load your smoking device with whatever your initial dose is, and take it. After taking the hit, while you are holding the vapor in, pour the next dose into your bowl and take that. Repeat until you have left this dimension.

You could do something like this empty but it would be far easier and more or less the same thing to just load it all in and toke and wait. take 3 big rips and see how that goes. If it wasn't a break through next time do 4 big rips, see how that goes ext...

thought process on the method of counting your hits is simple. with an abundance of dmt in the pipe every hit will be a full thick vape hit as opposed to the first being a big one, second less, third barely there, 4th a waste of time, sit back and not break through.

when you have a full bowl of dmt every hit is a big one so you can still work up gradually by counting hits and assessing the strength after words. Its should only take 2 or at most 3 attempts to find the sweet spot this way and then you know every time how to break through.

thats why I feel there is no need to pre weigh doses and have them on stand by, just put it all in the pipe and find how many licks it takes to get to the center of the universe!

 

[spiritual7pioneer]

I've been using about 40 mg between me and my sister.
But I think upping that a bit wont hurt.
I'm using a freebase method so there's already some on there before I put fresh stuff in.

 

[olympus mon]

I've been using about 40 mg between me and my sister.
But I think upping that a bit wont hurt.
I'm using a freebase method so there's already some on there before I put fresh stuff in.

well thats your problem my man. give us more info like this first its easier to help when people know whats going on.

thats only 20 mg each if your vaping method is perfect less if its not. No wonder your not getting there.

Also if you 2 are passing it back and forth like you would smoking weed try to do it one at a time. Not every hit has the same amount of vaper as i explained and if your sharing its not going to be equally split between you 2. Besides you need to get the hits in you in a short time frame. there really isnt a lot of time to be waiting for the pipe ext.

Dmt is more a solo sport. Go one at a time and sit for eachother or get a second vaping pipe.

 

[new_science]

I would try using a one-hit method with at least double what you are using now. The trip will go even faster yet sometimes the one hit method is really what does it. Use a waterfall or something.

 

[Sky Motion]

If you are using a bong, toke slow, fill the chamber and release when it is full so there is a rapid inhalation of spice.

I can almost guarantee that 30mg in a solid quick hit, will carry you over.

 

[DoctorMantus]

Just cream your piece real thick and nice, when you have taken enough in you will know, they will let you know.

40mg should be enough, 30 is good for me.

 

[Guardian]

smoking dmt is different than smoking marijuana, in that
one must hold in the vapor for an extended period.

a good 10 seconds minumum.
could this be your problem, perhaps?

 

[endlessness]

FAQ: Whats the best smoking method?

FAQ: I dont get any effects or only light buzz, what to do?

FAQ: Denied breathrough/dark DMT trips/Not good experiences anymore.

 

[scudge]

I enjoy mixing 300 mg with some cannabis into one bowl, just because storing the crystals can be a pain sometimes. When this is done its almost impossible not to blast off for a good 20-30 min. I don't recommend this for anyone.

 

[spiritual7pioneer]

I've blasted off with a bong before,
But I've yet to with the "oil burner" I've got.

 

[d*l*b]

I don’t think oil burners are the best tool for the job, although some people do like them. I would revert to the bong, a standard pipe or better still a GVG or VG.

40 or 50mg in a standard pipe/bong should do the job of transporting you. In the VG/GVG you should be able to jump to the other side with around half of that dose.

 

[Korey]

I've blasted off with a bong before,
But I've yet to with the "oil burner" I've got.

I actually prefer oil burners. It's possible to blast off with 30mg if you vaporize the material correctly, but I just eyeball a little pile of spice and toke until I leave my body, it works perfectly fine. 40-60mg trips are quite special.

 

[settings]

i find an oilburner is the best thing for the job so long as you do it right, i put my spice in, heat it with a torch lighter for a second or so till it all melts then give it a minute for the pool of DMT to solidify again.

then slowly draw and bring the torch lighter directly under the DMT and in about 5 seconds i can vape and fully inhale 30-50mg which gives me just enough time to put the burner down before breaking through just seconds later.


the mistakes i made in the past are: not melting my DMT first - this results in it taking much longer to vape. not drawing before heating - this results in really hot vapour and so long as you are drawing all the time i find there is no worry of burning the DMT even with the hottest part of the flame on the glass, more heat just means faster vaping so long as there is air flow.

but yeah, up your dose from 20mg to 30mg :d

 

[spiritual7pioneer]

i find an oilburner is the best thing for the job so long as you do it right, i put my spice in, heat it with a torch lighter for a second or so till it all melts then give it a minute for the pool of DMT to solidify again.

then slowly draw and bring the torch lighter directly under the DMT and in about 5 seconds i can vape and fully inhale 30-50mg which gives me just enough time to put the burner down before breaking through just seconds later.


the mistakes i made in the past are: not melting my DMT first - this results in it taking much longer to vape. not drawing before heating - this results in really hot vapour and so long as you are drawing all the time i find there is no worry of burning the DMT even with the hottest part of the flame on the glass, more heat just means faster vaping so long as there is air flow.

but yeah, up your dose from 20mg to 30mg :d

I've yet to perfect this method..though I am using a BIC.
Do you suggest using a torch? I feel that it may be too much heat as
the oil burner I have is made of glass and not quartz.
When melting it that is where you would have the flame fairly distant from the glass
just giving it a certain amount of heat, then when it melts from that do you then
progress to a higher temperature via lighter closeness?