KASH's mescaline TEK

[Green Rust]

Hi,

New member here. As I just signed up, I am unable to send KASH a PM. I have a question about the mescaline TEK. It mentions mixing in certain steps. Would stirring with a glass rod be enough for the mixing?

Thanks
-Rust

 

[Green Rust]

1.2g

 

[PogoTheMonkey]

hello again. thanks to replying to my last question Green, i feel like i need al the help i can get on this as i can only afford to take one crack at it right now, and i have couple more questions if anyone would
so step 9

"9) Seperate layers, hot water bath may be necessary to seperate emulsion quickly. Filter and save acidic H2O layer and discard/recycle toluene. Evaporate the aqueous layer on a dish with aid of a fan and/or hot water bath. Never use direct heat it will scorch your product. Scrape up the crystals."

this just occurred to me, is the water layer on the bottom at this point? if you did 4 xylene pulls it seems like it would be difficult to pull 100ml of water from below 800ml of solvent. if this is the case whats the best way to be this with out a separatory funnel?

 

[Green Rust]

Yes the water layer is on the bottom. I do not have a sep funnel either. However, a glass turkey baster with a narrow point works. It doesn't work particularly well, but will get the job done if you're careful. When you get to the point where there is just a bit of water left, you could tilt the jar and suck up the remaining. If you get some of the xylene as well, you could place the contents into a narrow glass, like a tall shot glass. Wait for the layers to separate, then grab as much water as you can.

Good luck!

 

[PogoTheMonkey]

OK kool thankfully I got a baster for another extraction, and that what I was thinking I would do I was just hoping it wouldn't be a total fail. Also what was the % of your HCl? Have you tested your potency yet?

 

[magic9]

you can try a gravy separator

 

[Green Rust]

Also what was the % of your HCl? Have you tested your potency yet?

HCl 31.45% (muriatic acid from the hardware store). It usually takes about 8-12 drops to bring ph down to 7. If I were you I would start with 4 drops, then mix for 5 mins, then test. Always mix good before testing to ensure you have an accurate reading. Go very slow here, well worth it if you can hit that magic ph level between 6-7. It's real easy to add too much, especially when you get closer to ph 7.

Haven't tested potency as I don't know how. Be sure not to grab any of the aqueous solution when separating your initial xylene pulls. Reason being that this will cause additional non-mescaline salt to form from the lye when you add the HCl. This can affect dosing as you will have more yield which is not all mescaline. You're final product should taste very bitter and not salty if no additional salt was formed.

 

[PogoTheMonkey]

Lol I meant test as in sample
OK cool that exactly the hlc I have.
So far I'm off to a rock start. Tried to dry my cacti and my DIY dehydrator had heat issues so I moved on to dicing my partially dehydrated stuff, chopping went fine but took FOREVER, the problem came when I decided that puréeing my chunks in a blender was a good idea and my blender disagreed. The base on the blender jammed to the base of the cup, so when I turned the cup to dump it, the cup itself separated instead and leaked all over the place. But anyway I'm boiling chunks right now but it going hella slow, a hot plate and 10lbs and cactus chunks don't go well together. But anywho, I plan to keep updating on my progress so others can learn how to fail less.

Oh Green did you just do one salt pull as the tek suggests.

 

[Green Rust]

Lol I meant test as in sample

Ahhh... lol, yeah I gave it a test run, 500mg. It seemed pretty potent to me... although it was my first mescaline run so I don't have any past experience to base it on. Here is a link to my trip report if you're interested 500mg Mescaline HCl Trip Report - Welcome discussion - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

I did just one salting pull. At ph 7 over 99% of the mescaline will be ionized and soluble in the water, so you should get all of it.

Good luck man!! :thumb_up:

 

[PogoTheMonkey]

OK so I've boiled down to about 600ml but have not yet baseified. I left to solution in a sealed mason jar to cool overnight after the boil, and when I checked it out I had a THICK layer (of sediment?) On the bottom of my jar. I considered filtering it out but decided against it as I would then need to wash the sediment and filter to prevent loss and end up adding to much more then I'm willing to deal with. So I decided to give uit a good shack and see how to layer responded. it mixed back in and foamed like crazy! I now have a layer of foam on top almost as thick as as my entire solution, and I'm not sure if this is really weird and gonna screw me up or if I should just go ahead with adding the lye and see if it resolves itself.

Anyone have any ideas or input?

 

[Green Rust]

Don't worry about the sediment. Almost all of the alkaloids are in the tea you've brewed. If you have thick foam I would suggest running it through a cloth filter once more. Another option would be to boil a pot of water on the stove, turn off the heat and place your jar in there. It should settle it down.

You should consider letting it sit for another day, then filtering out the sediment. Its much easier to work with. Those particles are so fine and a real pain to deal with.

 

[PogoTheMonkey]

I got impatientent an just went ahead but it worked out, it separates beautifully in my crock pot water bath, I'm going to do my third xylene pull now should be salting tonight.

 

[Green Rust]

:d

 

[PogoTheMonkey]

ok so thing are going ok, 3rd pull went fine, 4th pull the emulsion has consumed 90% of of my xylene! i pulled off what was free and added some rock salt and set it on top of my box fan to try to vibrate the rest of my solvent back. on the up side of things because of doing all my pulls with my solution warm my first 3 pulls are super saturated, i pull my jar on the cool basement floor and it started to precipitate. so hopefully ill gt my xylene back and have a pile of nice product.

 

[Entheogenerator]

ok so thing are going ok, 3rd pull went fine, 4th pull the emulsion has consumed 90% of of my xylene! i pulled off what was free and added some rock salt and set it on top of my box fan to try to vibrate the rest of my solvent back. on the up side of things because of doing all my pulls with my solution warm my first 3 pulls are super saturated, i pull my jar on the cool basement floor and it started to precipitate. so hopefully ill gt my xylene back and have a pile of nice product.

Mescaline freebase is highly soluble in xylene. Heating the pulls is really unnecessary, and may even be counterproductive.

 

[PogoTheMonkey]

It was done to aid separation. How could it hurt?

 

[Entheogenerator]

It was done to aid separation. How could it hurt?

It could potentially increase the solubility of other alkaloids/impurities in the xylene. I don't know this to be the case, but it's possible.

 

[PogoTheMonkey]

I think you right, I ended up with a pretty brown powder. But I'll be doing a wash after it gt more acetone.

 

[Entheogenerator]

I think you right, I ended up with a pretty brown powder. But I'll be doing a wash after it gt more acetone.

Brown coloring can also occur if the acidic solution used to salt the mescaline out of the xylene has too low of a pH. This seems to precipitate other alkaloids in addition to the mescaline.

 

[PogoTheMonkey]

Ohh, well that's what happened then, I was using litmus paper and couldn't get a decent read on my solution.