mattimus said:If you could make amazing cheeseburgers wouldn't you want others to enjoy them?
The buns, beef and tomatoes aren't free and what if these burgers took hours of careful time to make, you wouldn't want to lose money just so they can taste a cheeseburger.
The key word I think here is 'profit'. I don't think there should be harm in giving it to close friends and there should be nothing wrong with accepting a few dollars as payment.
I can understand mass producing and flooding the street with it though, that is something that should never be done.
bonestoner said:i didnt mean he literally had a pee sized brain. it was more a device to convey what the average man knows is nothing, compared to what some of us know they might as well have pees for brains lol. not intentionally abrasive... but none the less a lil. just trying to clarify
Well stated Ibeing789. Those are all very good points that I hadn't really considered much (with regard to street sales and profitability). Finally we're back on track with this debate!lbeing789 said:there has been a definite increase in awareness with regards spice, more people have heard about it, probably because the internet spreads these experiences quite far.... also I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the effects of spice have something to do with the culture and time we live in... for example, I would be surprised if shamans had similar futuristic, graphical, digitised experiences that SWIM has had on spice (then again, maybe they did, then the ontological implications are even more bizarre)...
...but anyway, I don't think we have much to worry about with regards spice becoming a highly used street drug, something SWIM has learned is that dealers only sling addictive substances that reap large dividends, SWIM finds it impossible to believe something with such radically different effects could become addictive, in fact, the drug itself seems to illicit sum kind of irrational fear (super respect) that doesn't make sense considering the stuff is so amazing and SWIM has never had a negative effect, SWIM cant do it more than once every 3 months, even if SWIM really wants to, it's strange really.
Finally, although extractions are relatively easy, SWIM suspects large scale operations actually makes far less profit than the other popular street drugs... and if the law was smart they should focus their attention on the drugs that cause real social harm... utopian I know.
SWIM does believe however that everyone should try it, because it is a truly humbling and has fascinating implications on the nature of being and our purpose as human beings... it's still a mega mystery but all humans need hope and many act on faith alone, spice taught me that most theology is even more wrong than I thought it was before, but on the other hand, it also taught me that there is so much out there that we dont understand and it's a truly gratious experience to breakthrough and realise that. SWIM spent most of his life pondering existence and had formed a rather dogmatic view that was shattered by those revelations, well, I dont want to say shattered because this stuff is just unknown at the moment... it's crazy when I read or listen to great authors or lecturers pondering existence, now I cant take them that seriously because they havent tried it and half the time I know that a real psychedelic experience would give them more to think about.
It shouldn't be sold that's for sure, it is truly sacred in that respect in that something so magical shouldn't be overused because like everything in life it may lose it's magic and SWIM loves having the ultimate experience reserved for special moments in time. I am slightly concerned about everyone finding out the secret because sometimes I'm conflicted about whether I wanted to see it myself... I mean, once you've stared into the vortex of infinity can you ever be the same again? :roll:
it's crazy when I read or listen to great authors or lecturers pondering existence, now I cant take them that seriously because they havent tried it and half the time I know that a real psychedelic experience would give them more to think about.
Rest assured that scientists, politicians, businessmen, etc. are all amongst the members of this small society who are experiencing the wonders of psychedelics and, to a smaller extent, DMT. The problem is that societal mores, and stigmas repress the desire for these influential people to speak out in public.cellux said:it's crazy when I read or listen to great authors or lecturers pondering existence, now I cant take them that seriously because they havent tried it and half the time I know that a real psychedelic experience would give them more to think about.
Sure. I remember asking: Why me? Why me who sees these things, in my small room, unknown to the rest of humanity? This should be seen by people who are among the most respected members of society: scientists, politicians, businessmen, those who have the control in their hands! Something seems totally backwards here, when the secrets of the universe are discovered by hippie freaks and teenagers stoned out of their minds. The Light humanity is looking for is hidden in the shadows, where no one would search it.
Jumiem said:As it is I think most people who obtain it on the streets would get into their pipes gung ho and quickly find out that becoming ego soup isn't something they would wish on their arch enemy.
acolon_5 said:its not that people are being denied spice, most really just don't want it, and if they do happen to come across it, most will only try it once, and find out it really isn't for them.
The whole "spread it to the masses" thing is flawed in so many ways. It just won't work like that.
dmt, spirit molecule, dream powder a way to get down usually smoked but can be taken orally with inhibitors. getting digitial is a must. pineal gland 3rd eye visions.
got down and digitial. im with the spirits right now
Seven said:From what swim seems to notice, the people trying or wanting to sell it, have no relationship with spice whatsoever. To them its just another commodity to exploit. People with a good relationship with spice (like people here) know that selling spice is wrong in their hearts. Also people trying to make money, dont want to be extracting and researching, they just want to buy and resell, so eventually they realize its not even worth it to sell and leave it alone.
The source I procured it from was a wise teacher of the spice and had been using it for a fairly long time, their product was very good and their prices were more than reasonable (I doubt they were making money). Just because someone sells DMT doesn't mean they don't respect it, they're just trying to spread the respect - and I'm not talking about some mass DMT awareness, just making it available to the people who need it.Seven said:From what swim seems to notice, the people trying or wanting to sell it, have no relationship with spice whatsoever. To them its just another commodity to exploit. People with a good relationship with spice (like people here) know that selling spice is wrong in their hearts. Also people trying to make money, dont want to be extracting and researching, they just want to buy and resell, so eventually they realize its not even worth it to sell and leave it alone.