Kicked out or tolerance?

[Trippyguyy96]

Soo, I've been going to hyperspace for the past few months now. Some weeks 2-3 times but some only 1. But I'm noticing now I don't have any experiences like I used too. Like the wild visuals. All I get is the audible carrier wave and no visuals. Like at all. Maybe some in the few moments from before id close my eyes after taking the last hit, but now I'll just come out of the trip wondering why there was no visuals. Am I locked outt? Do I have a tolerance? Or are the one in the same and it's up to our own interpretation.

 

[bezevo]

You should probobly provide much more info , if you want answers.

Like your dose , method of vape/smoke .

do you have an acurate milligran scale to measure out dose .

have you considerd that if your taking a high dose you could be blacking out,

or ?

 

[Trippyguyy96]

You should probobly provide much more info , if you want answers.

Like your dose , method of vape/smoke .

do you have an acurate milligran scale to measure out dose .

have you considerd that if your taking a high dose you could be blacking out,

or ?

Yea I thought the same thing too about blacking out so I tried lowering my dose down to just 20-30 mgs from the usual 40 (which got me there about every time until it suddenly didn't) and still nothing. And I've been using a glass Sherlock vapor genie .

 

[northape]

Take a break. I doubt that's any kind of lockout. You just did too much for your body in a short period of time and got desensitized.
Our bodies are quite smart and like homeostasis. Dmt is still an external substance. Yes, it may be produced in the body, but not in such quantities that you inhale. Most likely, a flood of dmt in the brain is a one-off event at death/birth, or something similar.

I get almost no visions after more than a decade of oral brews, but the psychedelic state is still there. It's not about the visions, but about opening to reality and getting a break from yourself, imo. So don't worry too much. Take a holiday from your vape, eat well, exercise, and enjoy some company. An evening with a girl, fine wine, and good food could be as healing as an otherworldly journey to meet some entities.

You see entities every day anyway. We just got so accustomed to all sentient beings that we think it's normal. Imagine that your soul traveled through time & space and landed in an alien body on another planet. It would be so fascinating to explore it all. Guess what? It actually did. Where are you from? Where were you before being born? Who are you? What is this place? Life is a mystery. Enjoy

 

[brettsta]

Soo, I've been going to hyperspace for the past few months now. Some weeks 2-3 times but some only 1. But I'm noticing now I don't have any experiences like I used too. Like the wild visuals. All I get is the audible carrier wave and no visuals. Like at all. Maybe some in the few moments from before id close my eyes after taking the last hit, but now I'll just come out of the trip wondering why there was no visuals. Am I locked outt? Do I have a tolerance? Or are the one in the same and it's up to our own interpretation.

I think I know what your saying , I have said this before , but I'm still searching for an answer .
I've been doing it years but in the last year I seem to of lost my usual closed eye visuals ?? Not totally but 90% reduced .
At first it frustrated me but I think I get it now , mabye I've done that ,
and seen that , and now it's something completely different.
I'm still breaking through but a total different experience with eyes wide open , its like the realm is revealing itself ?

I even got a eye mask , but oddly it demanded I remove it ? Like it's trying to show me something that needs my eyes open .

It appeared to me that at first , eyes closed and eyes open are completely different destinations, that is untill one goes so deep , there are no eyes.

This blows my mind , if I'm seeing there world through my eyes , what does this mean ? Certainly not a hallucinogen , it's way behond.

Great thread cheers

 

[northape]

No matter whether your eyes are open or closed, it's all in the mind. It all tends to start with visions (deep immersions into other worlds) only to later bring you back to the here and now. All that magic, whatever it was, is not separate from this reality. I see it more as a spectrum, like the electromagnetic spectrum. Nothing is separate, and one experience melts into another. So, what visions are we talking about - strange patterns and encounters? Forget your preconceived ideas about the world and look around. How strange this place is

 

[brettsta]

No matter whether your eyes are open or closed, it's all in the mind. It all tends to start with visions (deep immersions into other worlds) only to later bring you back

That's one way to put it , and yeah on paper its all in the mind.
But the question is , is the mind creating those impossible worlds
or just Processing what it's experiencing.

it could be creating it ? Maybe deep within the chitta or somewhere behond all comprehension.

But unlike the majority of the human race who can only guess,
I feel I have , through my experiences a legit fare dinkum opinion
And this opinion is that once through the threshold / breakthrough
we entre another dimension that is not ours.
I feel very aware that it's there when I leave and there when I'm not .

Are there multiple dimensions existing at the same time in the same space accessed through frequency? Sounds far fetched yes ,
but I hear the frequency everytime ? and when I'm there it's all crystal clear .

 

[universecannon]

That's one way to put it , and yeah on paper its all in the mind.
But the question is , is the mind creating those impossible worlds
or just Processing what it's experiencing.

it could be creating it ? Maybe deep within the chitta or somewhere behond all comprehension.

But unlike the majority of the human race who can only guess,
I feel I have , through my experiences a legit fare dinkum opinion
And this opinion is that once through the threshold / breakthrough
we entre another dimension that is not ours.
I feel very aware that it's there when I leave and there when I'm not .

Are there multiple dimensions existing at the same time in the same space accessed through frequency? Sounds far fetched yes ,
but I hear the frequency everytime ? and when I'm there it's all crystal clear .

I'm like a broken record with this stuff but I used to share that perspective, so I can't help but chime in. Now, after what I've seen and just begun sharing, there's nothing to be kicked out of IME. Our ancestors weren't slamming large doses and sitting in a wooden box trying to make sense of the decoherent whirlwind. They combined it with sympathetic resonance to pull it into focus, and the "entities" and "other dimensions" snap into something far far stranger and coherent than modern notions of "hyperspace".

 

[iownme]

getting a break from yourself

thats a nice way to look at it i'll remember that next trip

 

[iownme]

I even got a eye mask , but oddly it demanded I remove it ? Like it's trying to show me something that needs my eyes open .

have you tried the amazon mindfold blindfold?, it allows you to keep your eyes open while blindfolded. its the most unique experience, that might work for you and its cheap enough to try
MINDFOLD HERE

 

[brettsta]

have you tried the amazon mindfold blindfold?, it allows you to keep your eyes open while blindfolded. its the most unique experience, that might work for you and its cheap enough to try
MINDFOLD HEREyes

Yes thats the mask I have , I keep my eyes open , I use it for coming up to the breakthrough but lately I've been taking it off mid stage .
I also use it in meditation it helps focus my mind .
Cheers for reply

 

[northape]

I use MyHalos for the same reasons. It works fine for me, especially when I'm overstimulated and need to relax. Somehow keeping your eyes open in pitch-black darkness just soothes the system and brings on visions. I like to feel the darkness too. It's a vast open space, and you can try to melt into it. Anyhow, it feels very healthy

 

[brettsta]

I use MyHalos for the same reasons. It works fine for me, especially when I'm overstimulated and need to relax. Somehow keeping your eyes open in pitch-black darkness just soothes the system and brings on visions. I like to feel the darkness too. It's a vast open space, and you can try to melt into it. Anyhow, it feels very healthy

Yes that is a thing , eyes wide open in pitch black feels really good
I look around in the blackness and yeah melt into it

 

[Trippyguyy96]

I think I know what your saying , I have said this before , but I'm still searching for an answer .
I've been doing it years but in the last year I seem to of lost my usual closed eye visuals ?? Not totally but 90% reduced .
At first it frustrated me but I think I get it now , mabye I've done that ,
and seen that , and now it's something completely different.
I'm still breaking through but a total different experience with eyes wide open , its like the realm is revealing itself ?

I even got a eye mask , but oddly it demanded I remove it ? Like it's trying to show me something that needs my eyes open .

It appeared to me that at first , eyes closed and eyes open are completely different destinations, that is untill one goes so deep , there are no eyes.

This blows my mind , if I'm seeing there world through my eyes , what does this mean ? Certainly not a hallucinogen , it's way behond.

Great thread cheers

No it's not. My experiences are now more akin to a white out. I come out of it with no memory of seeing anything at all. If I'm lucky sometimes I'd hear the carrier wave but that's usually it.
The other day I let a buddy of mine do it for his first time and I packed it in a bong using the sandwhich method bc it's damn near impossible to mess up that way (with a higher dose than I would usually do in the vapor genie bc I know how this ways inefficient) and he wanted to see me go first, so I did mine and I was Soo let down. This is how I used to do it when I first started going to hyperspace and boyy it did the trick every time and then some. But this time I was sitting there after the third hit like what the actually hell. If I hadn't extracted the stuff myself I'dda sworn i got ripped off. I felt a tad bit of the headspace but that was it. And when he did his the 1st hit smacked him like a train and he refused to hit it again bc of how intensely it hit him.
Iv decided to take a break from it for a month at the very least. Just live life and get regrounded in reality for a while.

 

[bezevo]

already answerd

 

[brettsta]

No it's not. My experiences are now more akin to a white out. I come out of it with no memory of seeing anything at all. If I'm lucky sometimes I'd hear the carrier wave but that's usually it.

very interesting, i feel for ya , I'm not ready to let go yet either.
You could be right give it some time , best more than a month
Its amusing how absolutely clueless we all are when it comes to this ,
even after many years of exploration
I think all we really know , Is the gift of experiencing that incredible
strange place , is fleeting.
When or if the time comes for me, when the curtains come down on the great and secret show , then ok
my experiences are me now , I can feel that place in my core . I think about it every day and I will for the rest of my life .
To have experience pure awareness, that's good enough for me

I think give it a good break ,stop focusing on it , and your probably be back , sooner or later

 

[Trippyguyy96]

I saw this comment on a video covering this topic that kind of messed me up to think about. Got goosebumps reading it and not the pleasant type. "Imagine taking your last breath and being robbed of the sense of bliss and wonder then understanding it was because you wasted it while living".

 

[universecannon]

I saw this comment on a video covering this topic that kind of messed me up to think about. Got goosebumps reading it and not the pleasant type. "Imagine taking your last breath and being robbed of the sense of bliss and wonder then understanding it was because you wasted it while living".

I wouldn't pay that any mind. People don't know what the hell they're talking.

 

[northape]

I saw this comment on a video covering this topic that kind of messed me up to think about. Got goosebumps reading it and not the pleasant type. "Imagine taking your last breath and being robbed of the sense of bliss and wonder then understanding it was because you wasted it while living".

Everything is wrong with that quote. First of all, it's a fully egoic perspective assuming that it knows about something beyond itself (a bigger space where it exists). Then there is a big emphasis on so-called good states, which just points to a personal bias. Further on there is a notion of self-criticism at the end, which is mostly a Western thing based on original sin idea. Asian cultures, for the most part, have a much easier time with such self-talk. The quote sounds like the kind of thought that can pop up in your mind before full ego dissolution. Ego is all about survival, and it can come up with an infinite number of reasonable stories. "Who is having this experience?" is a much better question. It needs no philosophy behind it, just self-honesty and some curiosity. People are dumb apes for the most part. Look around and relax