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If you can't afford the GVG: Put the spice atop some spent ashes, no need for ashes atop either, just hold the lighter a good distance and pull slow. Of course, chore boy works a bit better than this.

Sandwich: I'll only throw weed into the mix if I wish to be stoned but tripped out without breaking through....apparently some people breakthrough with this method?
 
Bedazzle said:
If you can't afford the GVG: Put the spice atop some spent ashes, no need for ashes atop either, just hold the lighter a good distance and pull slow. Of course, chore boy works a bit better than this.

Sandwich: I'll only throw weed into the mix if I wish to be stoned but tripped out without breaking through....apparently some people breakthrough with this method?


I can pretty easily break though with the sandwich method as long as you keep the lighter away from the bowl and stop lighting once the herb lights. It may depend on how much herb you put on top as a buffer too. Any herb will work if you don't want the weed factor, but I usually just have weed. I've even used tobacco successfully, but this is more difficult due to the harshness of the hits.
 
I've always been rather skeptical (perhaps even judgmental) of mixing weed into a breakthrough dmt experience. Then again, last week I vaped perhaps 15-25 mg's dmt atop just a bit of weed. Did not breakthrough, but close. Had a trippy few minutes, then a good 30 minutes of being stoned, but in a rather trippy and upbeat/energetic way.

I went outside got to work on some work type project, like 15 minutes after vaping...it seems maybe a sprinkle of dmt on my weed may just make for a good way to get a pleasant upbeat buzz during the day without getting lazy the way weed usually does to me.

That day I truly could say that "I stand happily corrected". Also, sorry for ever being judgmental towards how other people do things.
 
I too have tried a fair few methods over the last year or two but always return to my standard pipe with 4 or 5 screens a tiny layer of herb eg parsley or ash and 30mg of freebase on top. I use a torch lighter at a distance though I did use to use a standard lighter but that needs a bit of practice, take a nice steady toke and drawn in the heat, the dmt will melt/vaporise and eventually the herb will burn too. All done in one toke and a breakthrough is achieved every time.
 
One of the simplest ways of helping beginners enter hyperspace on the first try is the following:

* Take a 2 liter plastic bottle
* Cut off the bottom
* Get the kind of aluminum foil sold as "baking wrap"; they're safe for cooking food like turkeys and potatoes in a 450+ *F oven and won't off-gas anything harmful, especially not at a mere lighter-temperature.
* Wrap the foil around the cut-off bottom of the bottle, and make sure that the foil reaches up the sides of the bottle (for support).
* Make sure that the foil conforms to its new shape, and then get some tape to wrap around the foil to make it even tighter. It should be easy enough to still slide the foil off from the bottle, but not so easy that it's going to fall off on its own.

Now you are ready.

* To load it, just pull off the foil and put the DMT in the middle of the foil, and put the foil-bottom back on the bottle.
* Make sure that you've screwed on the bottle cap.
* Take a lighter and heat the bottom of the foil (don't touch the foil with the flame, you just want to heat it).
* Wait until the whole bottle is full of a milky mist: Vaporized DMT.

Now hand the bottle to the person. Make them do some breathing exercises to really learn how to do deep breaths. Then have them unscrew the lid and take one huge breath, and hold it in for at least 15 seconds, preferably longer.

They will almost be guaranteed to be in hyperspace with just 1 hit, thanks to the huge air/vapor capacity of the 2 liter bottle.

This method means that you don't have to teach people how to use pipes or other techniques. It's the simplest method I know for teaching a beginner and making them succeed on their first try.

The usual disclaimer applies: Only introduce people who are willing to face ego death and are willing to experience whatever awaits them on the other side.
 
Or you could use Shanghigher's patented waterfall of budget smoking joy!

Originally invented for casual weed smoking without tobacco or owning a decent bong, all this bad boy needs is:

- A large plastic bottle (wide neck so you don't melt any plastic [looking at you, 3rdI ;)] - lucozade or large innocent juice bottles are a good bet)
- Foil.
- A pipe screen.
- A lighter.
- A pin/something small, sharp and pokey.

And we're all set!

What you are going to do is:

- Make a thumb sized rush and a small water flow hole towards the bottom of the bottle.
- Take one sheet of foil, and fit this so it sits inside the neck of the bottle.
- Poke some holes in the centre.
- Remove, and fit a second piece of the top of the bottle so it fits flat over the brim.
- Poke one small hole in this piece of foil, and remove.
- Weigh out spice, and place to one side.

Now, to use it, follow these steps:

- Place the two sheets of foil next to a sink.
- Holding the rush and the flow hole with your off-hand, fill the bottle up to just below the neck with water.
- Place the bottom sheet of foil in place, making sure it is airtight.
- Put your spice on the screen.
- Put the top layer of foil on - also airtight.
- Place a light near the hole at the top.
- Gently release pressure on the small flow hole so water starts coming out and sucking hot air from the flame through the top hole.
- When you get smoke, feel free to accelerate a little or continue brewing up slowly.
- Once the water is all out, you should have a bottle full of goodness.
- Tip remaining water (should only be a dribble) out the holes at the bottom, and remove foil at the top. Cover all holes.
- Go to somewhere comfortable.
- Hit it in one.
- Hold it in.
- Keep holding it in.
- Keep that stuff in there, dude... oh wait a second, is it all getting a little funky in here?
- Yeah, pretty sure it is.
- OOOOOOOOOOHHH YEEEAAAAAAHHH!!
- :thumb_up:

This has worked for me twice with DMT, and countless times with weed (without top layer of foil for weed). Works in a pinch when you haven't got any decent materials to hand!

Here's a nice pic I drew earlier:
 

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Good work getting the paint file a second outing shanghigher!

I personally use a smallish (30/40cm?) glass bong with water. sandwiched in between ash, its worked 2 out of 3 times. reckon with my technique getting better it should be fine every time. wouldnt ever want to do a weed sandwich, well because, im not trying to smoke weed. i dont even really like to have joints before taking dmt.
 
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