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Little help please - Beautifuly spice turing into mush everytime now, also salt vs freebase ???

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wingchun

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Hi nexians's - searching for any kind souls who can offer some advice

SWIM's questions / problems are -
1 - Crystals turn to mush on the filter - i.e. absorb air humidity , &
2 - Crystals seem 'salty' - ie not shiny, active by smoking but much less so.

Problem 1 - Mushy crytals.

So after 3 days in the freezer, heaps of spice on the bottom of the jar,
Quickly through the filter, cool, now we have heaps of spice, still very
cold, sitting on the filter.

THEN BEFORE SWIM's VERY EYES - the cold spice absorbs humidity and turns into
this horrid creamy mush, which on evap / drying , DOES NOT BRING BACK CRYSTALS !!!
ALL swim gets is this rocky, salty, not shiny crystals - less active spice..
The experience is different to pure crystal, about 1/4 as orgasmic...

This has happened three times now, swim almost wants to cry...

SO my questions are -

1 - I've read about solvent precipitating out as freebase or as a salt.
My basic chem knowledge - leaves me a bit confused as to how the spice
can precip out as a salt, in pure shellite - due to a temperature decrease?

2 - Same for the cold spice sitting on the filter, I get that it is absorbing
H2O from the air, but why / how is it turning into a salt?
(or does some salt dissolve in Shellite)

3 - HOW can swim get the frozen spice crystals back to room temp, without
them absorbing so much moisture they turn to complete mush?

4 - Does spice evaporate along with Shellite, if too much air / o2 / humidity?
(Again my basic chem says NO, but the stuff seems to be vanishing during
evaps....)

What swim has already tried....

- Reading the posts, (there's a few left he hasn't read, but time is short...)
- Tossing the spice off filter onto paper - then put a fan on it - spice mush goes into paper
and is very hard to get out!!!
- Pour off shellite, leave spice in the jar - lid closed, until room temp, still mush!!!
- Leaving spice on filter. (see above)

swim thought it might be a purity problem, the size and colour of the crystals that
are sitting in the cold shellite, suggest this is not the problem.
Thanks again for any help - may the spice gods reward you well....

:lol:
 
I had the same problem before. After I pour my solvents with DMT in the crystallization jar I sometimes have to let some of the solvent evaporate. When I can blow on my DMT and it goes from clear to cloudy it's good to go. I put the container in the freezer with plastic foliage on it for 12 hours or more.

When all crystals have precipitated and got stuck to the bottom I remove it from the freezer. I pour the excess solvent into another jar (somtimes there are some floating crystals left you can save.) Now the DMT is all over your collection jar. Now i put the jar in the freezer up side down letting the last solvent (shellite)pour off. After 10-15 min I remove the jar from the freezer letting it dry some more with the help of a fan.

This should fix your little problem, this problem occurs when your solvent becomes hot and redissolve your DMT.
 
Thanks Triptonite - your advice worked a charm !!!

No more mushy crystals - :lol:

I am starting to think the forum comment I read by someone about spice precipitating out
as a salt, was either referring to Fumaric acid teks, or confused about chemistry.
Then again, maybe I'm confused....

Now time to test those crystals ..... :d :d :d

Harvest Pic's coming....
 
Hi Endlessness

Yeah, I did, but the forum is getting pretty big,
I spent a few days searching for good info on this specific problem.

I didn't find this tip about turning the jar upside down and putting it back
in freezer, after draining of the solvent, and it has made the world
of difference to harvests.

The Tek advice I could find just suggested filter the crystals through a filter or
cofee paper before air-fan drying - but that only made spice "mush" .
(except the first time...???)

Anyway, Sorry about that - I was, and will continue to do my best
not to ask dumb questions that have been asked before.

Site moderators / please feel free to move these posts to a crystalisation topic,
I kind of feel that other beginners may want this tip highlighted.
 
Look what following Triptonites' good advice did ....

IT MADE A HAPPY LITTLE SPICE-MAN !!!
(He must be getting ready to go into inner space...)

There's still more in the jar, this is what fell out
after being properly dried.... gotta get off my bum
and do some scraping- soon...

For now, I am in contented BLISS^3
(That's supposed to be bliss cubed)

:d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d
 

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