London 2012 Olympics

[jamie]

sorry guys, but I dont find anything of value in the olympics after what having them did here. All I saw was money wasted that was sopposed to go to low income housing for disabled people etc..homeless people kicked out of the city by a police force that seemed to borerline militant and a gigantic debt that the olympic committee passed off onto the tax payers.

Sure idealisitically the olympics sound nice..but dont be fooled, it is not really about the athletes and how great they are and all their achievments. Here in vancouver it was about pushing every problem in the city out of the way to pretend they dont exist so foreign people from all over can come here and think we live in some kind of west coast paradise and sell them tons of shit.

Everything here became more expensive just before and after the olympics...tax payers are still paying for it while the olympic committee held million dollar cocktail parties the whole time for themselves. The heroin problem along with the homeless they pretended did not exist has only gotten worse and they wasted all the money they had for this apparently low income housing on having some olympic party for 2 weeks.

The majority of people in vancouver did not even want the olympics..they only took polls in whistler and in north van where everyone has mansions and lives at base of cypress mountain where all the events were..of course they wanted it cus they all rented out their homes and took off on vacation the whole time.

The olympics seem to leave a huge mess in their wake. This city at least was the last place that should have been hosting the olympics at the time.

 

[Bill Cipher]

I've experienced an olympics in my city as well, jamie - and it's never been cleaner, safer or more harmonious than it was during that time.

 

[polytrip]

Well, at least for now, it looks like for london this has been a better summer than the previous one.

 

[Purges]

I honestly thought that there was going to be some big catastrophic '9/11 style' event during the Olympics. Seems like it would have been an ideal time for Al Qaeda / CIA / the Illuminati / who ever to set off one of their 'dirty bombs' (would love to see a 'clean bomb'!)... Anyhow, I'm really, really super glad that nothing like that happened

the footy season kicks off soon, i bet you've got your season ticket ready aint ya

:thumb_dow Now that truly is a catastrophic event!

 

[Korey]

Ha....he, he says Illuminati...


^_^

I agree with you as well Art, seems people can become quite jaded after they "turn their back" on society.

 

[soulfood]

I love international football, but the English premier league embodies most of what I find to be the pinnacle of sickness in society.

Olympians, when on camera generally seem to be greatful, passionate and somewhat humble individuals. This makes them great people for others to look up to.

Footballers? Well... I can't understand how someone who gets paid 250,000 smackers everyweek could be so hate filled and miserable.

Gang rape, racism, frequent public drink related violence, greed... Same goes for a good bulk of the fans. The influence of public exposure is a very powerful thing.

 

[universecannon]

I dont want to be all negative here but i must admit that Im just bored to frigging death by all of these conventional sports, and the Olympics blows them all way out of proportion to an annoying degree along with 'consumerizing' the whole package. I respect the genuine athletes and theyre abilities etc..and they surely inspire a lot of people, in a lot of different ways; some good, some bad..

But the whole show when its all said and done can act as just another massive distraction for many people. My folks back at home being a prime example

I remember talking to an old man while gazing at some event last week on tv. He lives on the woods alone for the most part, and is an almost blind, almost deaf alcoholic. Unlike all this 'aren't humans neat' backslapping ( to quote good ol bill hicks), he was instead taken back by the insane amount of money and human attention/effort that went into the whole shindig, saying; you have any idea how much good all of that could do if it was instead aimed at actually bettering our dying world?

The irony of seeing McDonald's sponsor it was a good laugh though

 

[1664]

The IOC has said, prior to the olympic´s, that anybody who would use the words 'olympic', 'olympic´s','2012 olympic´s', 'london olympic´s', etc, in a 'negative way' would be charged with violating trademark law. :d :d :d . I´m still trying to figure out whether i would be allowed to question whether this would be a violation of my freedom of speech, or whether asking such a question would be too negative already.

Anyway, i didn´t watch the games. I´m one of those suckers who thinks that rockclimbing in the south of france is more fun than watching TV.

I assume you are referring to the Olympic and Paralympic Games Act 2006. This was blown out of proportion by media interested in a controversial headline. This was passed after London won the Olympic bid with the idea being to protect those sponsors who put up millions of pounds to help stage the event. It was designed to stop other big brand names cashing in by appearing to support the event, when they had not in fact contributed. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

I don't see how this is a violation of anyone's freedom of speech any more than it is a denial of freedom of speech when you tell people you are selling Coca Cola when in fact you are selling your own Cola Pop. (I use the Coke as a brand every one will recognise, let's not get into an argument about Coca Cola please).

 

[christian]

A mans crown chakra is measured by his disinterest in Heroes, Olympics, Football, and all other hyped up useless nonsense!! :lol:

 

[polytrip]

The IOC has said, prior to the olympic´s, that anybody who would use the words 'olympic', 'olympic´s','2012 olympic´s', 'london olympic´s', etc, in a 'negative way' would be charged with violating trademark law. :d :d :d . I´m still trying to figure out whether i would be allowed to question whether this would be a violation of my freedom of speech, or whether asking such a question would be too negative already.

Anyway, i didn´t watch the games. I´m one of those suckers who thinks that rockclimbing in the south of france is more fun than watching TV.

I assume you are referring to the Olympic and Paralympic Games Act 2006. This was blown out of proportion by media interested in a controversial headline. This was passed after London won the Olympic bid with the idea being to protect those sponsors who put up millions of pounds to help stage the event. It was designed to stop other big brand names cashing in by appearing to support the event, when they had not in fact contributed. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

I don't see how this is a violation of anyone's freedom of speech any more than it is a denial of freedom of speech when you tell people you are selling Coca Cola when in fact you are selling your own Cola Pop. (I use the Coke as a brand every one will recognise, let's not get into an argument about Coca Cola please).

The problem is that the IOC itself doesn´t seem to understand this law very well. They also wanted to forbid people to place a link to the 'london 2012' website without their explicit permission. So that would mean for instance a link from the DMT-nexus to the 2012 olympic´s site.

The IOC wants to take these trademark laws way beyond their legal scope, and also apply it to individuals who would for instance adres corruption within the IOC and at the same time use the word 'olympic'.

That they don´t want pepsi to use any olympic theme, because of their contract with coca cola is understandable and no-one except the pepsico board would disagree.
That a person who would post something like:'the olympic games are fun and all, but the IOC is a corrupt organisation' on facebook, would also be charged for using olympic trademark without being licensed to do so, is beyond crazy.

Luckily, they don´t have the means to enforce such policies, and a lot of what they said prior to the olympic´s should probably be seen as a 'boy did we patent it' statement, like steve jobs made when introducing the I-phone...sort of like a warning to all of the pepsico´s and burger kings out there.

But it where crazy statements nevertheless. I admire the athletes who have shown so much discipline to get that far. But the IOC is a weird bunch of people.

 

[1664]

I've experienced an olympics in my city as well, jamie - and it's never been cleaner, safer or more harmonious than it was during that time.

I agree. And so do literally millions of Londoners and British people alike. We really don't need anyones sympathy, but thanks all the same.

I started this thread thinking it would reveal some interesting viewpoints from around the globe, generally of how the games went down, what people enjoyed etc. I genuinely did not anticipate an outpouring of negativity in this way, which I personally believe reflects badly on this forum.

How detached and removed from society do you have to feel to view something as inherently fun and joyous as the games in such a negative light? Not even in just a "sport is not my thing" type way, but geniune dislike of what it represents? I'm baffled by it. It's as if because anything is celebrated by the masses, counter culture rallies against it.

I don't see how anyone who has competed in any sport at any decent level, who has experienced the comraderie of team play, or the feeling of personal fulfillment that comes with bettering your own performance can see the Games as anything but positive.

Anyway, this thread has turned out to be a total disaster and not what it was intended to be at all. Maybe we should just forget the Olympics, and I'll go and talk about it with people who I share at least some common perceptions of the world with.

 

[1664]

A mans crown chakra is measured by his disinterest in Heroes, Olympics, Football, and all other hyped up useless nonsense!! :lol:

are you always this irritating?

 

[christian]

A mans crown chakra is measured by his disinterest in Heroes, Olympics, Football, and all other hyped up useless nonsense!! :lol:

are you always this irritating?

Truth hurts, huh??

 

[polytrip]

I´m not that negative about the olympic´s and all the people having fun, 1664. It was certainly not my intention to be negative about the event itself. I hope that london will benefit from these games and i´m glad that nothing bad has happened, like last year. I´m negative about organisations like the IOC or FIFA. Those organisations are corrupt to the bone.

 

[christian]

who has experienced the comraderie of team play, or the feeling of personal fulfillment that comes with bettering your own performance can see the Games as anything but positive.

You don't need the games to get the teamwork and improving yourself stuff. Look at the working day.

Maybe if this energy was used more constructively to help humankind directly it would make more sense than simply create a "competitive" vibe which serves "which" purpose?

 

[CLT]

Maybe the Olympics are too expensive, ruin the location for the people who live there, and aren't always completely fair. But look at what still remains! There's an extraordinary display of human skill and willpower. Where else than the Olympics do we find people that so completely devote themselves to a single goal? Where do we see such an honest and varied display of human emotions? The athletes sacrifice their lives for a goal that has no material or societal value per se, like a work of art. Many athletes in the Olympics are not even well paid. Think about the aspiring Olympians that might not even make any money, yet devote all their energy and time into it. All in all I find the Olympics a beautiful spectacle to watch.

 

[Sally]

I have always enjoy watching the olympics, I especially enjoyed it this year as it was hosted in my own country. Sure, it created some disruption, but I made the most of its presence here as best I could since I may never see or experience something like that again in my lifetime.

The thing that I enjoyed the most was seeing the athletes achieve something they have worked so hard for. The combinations of emotions that show in their face and eyes is amazing. I would love to know how that feels. I might also add that if Britain was no longer competing in an event, I found myself cheering for other countries. I caught myself doing this and thought it was nice, it showed to me that it isn't all about patriotism, instead, it was about seeing people succeed at what they do best.

I have also noticed a great increase in the amount of joggers and cyclists around. Surely this is not a bad thing if it is encouraging our population to get off the sofa and move around? It sure beats encouraging them to sit on that sofa!

All in all, I thoroughly enjoyed the olympics, I think its amazing that we are keeping this ancient event going. It is something so deeply rooted in our history, it would be a shame if we didn't have it any more.

Much love,
Sally xx

 

[soulfood]

You don't need the games to get the teamwork and improving yourself stuff. Look at the working day.

Maybe if this energy was used more constructively to help humankind directly it would make more sense than simply create a "competitive" vibe which serves "which" purpose?

Well we look to you to lead us on that one. Lemme know when you get it rolling.

Bottom line though, London 2012 was a mass organisation of the resources of humankind which successfully created something positive which touched the lives of millions.

You think this is a bad thing?

There are far far faaaa(a)r more organisations with much more negative impact, both socially and financially.

But then... as you are so persuasive in this immensely important cause, I shall see you on a picket-line in Rio in 4 years. We'll bring down these false prophets yet!

 

[christian]

like i said, the Olympics was impressive. there were many events i enjoyed watching on tv, and at least it created a certain "holiday vibe" whilst it lasted.

Maybe i sound negative cos i've seen it on tv so many times in my old age, but i was dismayed at the few events where it looked set up, and that spoiled it and made me question it to the core. Sorry about that but Olympics is meant to be serious, but some of it was not quite right, and I HATE THAT.

Makes me dislike football too, like players that play hurt and stuff, hate that to bits..:x

turns me right off "professional?" sporting events stuff like that..and the animated commentating, those people are paid to act like that to make up for atmosphere.

just my moaning 3 pence.

 

[Korey]

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