Looking for a simple re-x tek

[Lyghtsout]

I got a few drops of lye in my pulls. I've smoked the DMT a few times, it hasn't been harsh, no ill effects, there seems to be nothing wrong with it. It's playing in my mind that I know a few drops of the basic soup got into the mix.

I've been using the search engine like crazy before posting this.

From what I understand, NaOH doesn't evaporate at the temperatures used to smoke DMT. However, it's possible particles of NaOH can get into your lungs. My first question, is my DMT really dangerous? If these particles did get through in a low amount, what would be the ill effect?

I really want to avoid a re-crystallization of the substance. This is mainly because getting the extraction was so difficult for me, and now to recrystallize? I'm afraid I'll mess it up and end up empty handed. If you guys say that what I have is really dangerous, I don't see another option other then to toss it so might as well re-x at that point.

If I really need to re-x what's the simplest tek out there? I've been searching for something simple and straightforward as can be. From what I understand, the DMT is added to a warm solvent at which point the DMT is going to separate from the gunk which should go to the bottom. Wouldn't it be possible to just throw the DMT and Naphtha in a long/small beaker with 25ml/g then dipping it in water pre-warmed to 40-50 degrees Celsius until it separates then use a eye dropper to separate the top layer and putting it on a pyrex dish?

Thank you

 

[Firemetal420]

I would recommend doing a re-x if you know it's contaminated and if there is a chance to poison yourself however small, that is something to address.

It's super easy to do a re-x... Just warm up enough solvent (I've always gone with 40ml per gram) and dissolve your spice in it. When your sure all the spice is dissolved decant the clean solvent off of the contamination and place that into another container. Cover and put it in the freezer for 18 hours or so and pour off the solvent. Dry while it is tilted with a fan on low. Then you can enjoy the spoils of your labor in confidence. :thumb_up:

Happy travels

 

[Lyghtsout]

I would recommend doing a re-x if you know it's contaminated and if there is a chance to poison yourself however small, that is something to address.

It's super easy to do a re-x... Just warm up enough solvent (I've always gone with 40ml per gram) and dissolve your spice in it. When your sure all the spice is dissolved decant the clean solvent off of the contamination and place that into another container. Cover and put it in the freezer for 18 hours or so and pour off the solvent. Dry while it is tilted with a fan on low. Then you can enjoy the spoils of your labor in confidence. :thumb_up:

Happy travels

Thank you so much! So what I was thinking was purchasing two 100ml graduated cylinders

Have the solvent in one and the DMT in the other (since pouring the DMT in that small opening will be a pain and not something I want to rush). Heat up the solvent by dipping the cylinder in hot water then pour the heated solvent into to the cylinder with DMT in it. once I see separation pour off the top layer into a large pyrex dish leaving the gunk on the bottom behind. Repeat with 40ml of Naphtha to make sure I got all of the DMT.

How warm does the Naphtha need to be? I plan on purchasing a thermometer just to make sure the temperature of the solvent is right.

 

[cyb]

How warm does the Naphtha need to be? I plan on purchasing a thermometer just to make sure the temperature of the solvent is right.

Naphtha can be warmed up with a double boiler method (just be very careful not to have naked flame anywhere near fumes and leave the lid off to avoid pressure buildup)
Around 50C is adequate.

Also don't forget to 'wash' your reX tube/container with clean solvent/naphtha (small amount) a couple of times and add this to your naphtha.
Even the smallest drop of saturated naphtha clinging to the tube will contain a lot of dissolved product.

 

[Lyghtsout]

I got a interesting question. Since I don't really care about purity, more of I just want to get he lye out, can I just dump the DMT crystals back in the container I used to extract (with the original lye/mimosa mixture), add a bunch of naphtha, and do my pulls more carefully?

I really don't care for a more pure product. I'm new and when a few drops of mimosa soup got in the containers I used for freeze precipitation I didn't think it was a big deal. I was digging for scraps at the bottom of the separated naphtha layer stupid n00b mistake but it's what happened.

 

[endlessness]

Sounds like a very bad/inneficient way to clean up.

Why not simply recrystallize with warm naphtha, you will get rid of any lye this way since it will stay on the bottom? Plus you clean up from other impurities too, and you only need a tiny amount of solvent.

The analogy to what you're trying to do is to have some clothes practically clean with one little spot, and instead of just cleaning that spot, you throw the clothes back in the mud and say you will wash it again more carefully now.

 

[1ce]

You don't need a graduated cylinder to purify dmt. Maybe just take a test tube, dump your freebase in it, and put it in very hot water. Do the same for naptha. Slowly pipette the naptha and drip it into the freebase. Cover the tube with your thumb once it's all dissolved and shake, adding more hot naptha if needed. Pour the naptha into a a covered (aluminum foil will work well) dish and let it sit for 3-4hrs. After 1.5-2hr mark poke holes in the dish lid with a toothpick. After some crystals have formed, place the dish in your freezer.

It's simple, and works better with hexane/heptane.

 

[Jees]

If you really don't like to reX and want lye out, a sodium carbonate wash might be something ideal for you.
Should I wash my spice?

 

[FLeP]

One more suggestion: just use a shot glass and some chopsticks. Heat up your naphtha in a hot water bath and dump it onto a gram of spice in your shot glass. Quickly stir it while the naphtha is still hot with your chopstick. A couple particles or goop will float the bottom. Pour off your naphtha carefully for freeze precip or evapping. VOILA! Clean Spice!

 

[Lyghtsout]

One more suggestion: just use a shot glass and some chopsticks. Heat up your naphtha in a hot water bath and dump it onto a gram of spice in your shot glass. Quickly stir it while the naphtha is still hot with your chopstick. A couple particles or goop will float the bottom. Pour off your naphtha carefully for freeze precip or evapping. VOILA! Clean Spice!

I'm gonna give this a go and let you know how bit goes. Around what temperature should the naphtha be in degrees? Can it be too hot or too cool? How many ml/g should I use? Can I throw it in the freezer right after the top layer is poured off?

Thank you!

 

[endlessness]

check the FAQ

30ml/g impure dmt, do a second wash later with another 10-15ml and freeze separately.

No need to worry about temperature, just bring water to boil or near and turn the fire off and then submerge the bottom of the container in that water, so the water will be anywhere from 70-100c. It should be pretty quick you'll see

 

[Lyghtsout]

check the FAQ

30ml/g impure dmt, do a second wash later with another 10-15ml and freeze separately.

No need to worry about temperature, just bring water to boil or near and turn the fire off and then submerge the bottom of the container in that water, so the water will be anywhere from 70-100c. It should be pretty quick you'll see

Are you saying to pre mix the DMT and naphtha in a container, dip it in the boiling water, and wait till I see the two layers seperate?

 

[endlessness]

Pretty much yeah. Or you can heat just the naphtha container and then pour it where the DMT is.. Doesnt matter really.

 

[Lyghtsout]

Sweet so the plan is to get the graduated cylinder (easy to measure volume of solvent and also easy submerge the solution in hot water), fill it with the appropriate DMT/Naphtha ratio, cap it with my thumb, shake it, dip in in 60 degree celcius water till I see the two layers separate. At that point I'll decant with a glass dropper and put it in a small pyrex dish, throw it in the freezer, and hope for the best. I'm gonna order everything now and let you guys know how it goes. I'm probably going overboard with the equipment and could get away with a shot glass and a test tube, but one thing I've learned up to this point, having solid equipment makes everything a lot smoother. The money and time waiting for shipment isn't a issue if it helps prevent me from messing up all the DMT I already have even a little bit.

Thank you guys!

 

[FLeP]

FuNky lab equipment is sweet and all but let me tell you more about the chopsticks and shot glass.

My way:

Heat up some Heptane or Naphtha in a hot water bath (no flames!)

While that's warming up put a gram of spice in my shot glass and get my chopsticks ready.

Pour on the solvent and give it a stir. Wheeee! Okay, after about 15 seconds or so a little pool of yellow, maybe it's red, maybe it's brown stuff starts pooling on the bottom of the shot glass. The moment that little pool stops growing pour off the solvent into your dish for freeze precip or evap.

At this point there is a little puddle of yellow goop in the bottom of the shot glass. Now it's time for that other 10-15ml endlessness mentioned. Pour that in and use the chopstick to agitate the goop so it gets mixed up in your solvent. Your trying to get the last of the spice out of your goop (unfortunately your goop is probably still mostly dmt.) This is why a shot glass is good. It is shallow so you can agitate whatever pools at the bottom.

I've used this method to get white/yellow/tan spice out of red and it's definitely helpful when you've got a sizable pile of goop that won't just dissolve freely into your solvent.

 

[Lyghtsout]

FuNky lab equipment is sweet and all but let me tell you more about the chopsticks and shot glass.

My way:

Heat up some Heptane or Naphtha in a hot water bath (no flames!)

While that's warming up put a gram of spice in my shot glass and get my chopsticks ready.

Pour on the solvent and give it a stir. Wheeee! Okay, after about 15 seconds or so a little pool of yellow, maybe it's red, maybe it's brown stuff starts pooling on the bottom of the shot glass. The moment that little pool stops growing pour off the solvent into your dish for freeze precip or evap.

At this point there is a little puddle of yellow goop in the bottom of the shot glass. Now it's time for that other 10-15ml endlessness mentioned. Pour that in and use the chopstick to agitate the goop so it gets mixed up in your solvent. Your trying to get the last of the spice out of your goop (unfortunately your goop is probably still mostly dmt.) This is why a shot glass is good. It is shallow so you can agitate whatever pools at the bottom.

I've used this method to get white/yellow/tan spice out of red and it's definitely helpful when you've got a sizable pile of goop that won't just dissolve freely into your solvent.

My fear is from not knowing how hot to get the solvent. I figure with pre mixing I can see when the solvent starts to divide the DMT from the junk. I could he wrong. How do you know when the solvent is warm enough but not too hot?

 

[TGO]

check the FAQ

30ml/g impure dmt, do a second wash later with another 10-15ml and freeze separately.

No need to worry about temperature, just bring water to boil or near and turn the fire off and then submerge the bottom of the container in that water, so the water will be anywhere from 70-100c. It should be pretty quick you'll see

An exact temperature isn't really required as endlessness pointed out in this ^^^ . It just needs to be warm. Just be sure that whatever you are sticking in the water is made out of decent glass because I've had shot glasses crack. Not all the way through or shattering but cracked nonetheless.

 

[Lyghtsout]

Cool, new plan - I'm gonna get the 100ml graduated cylinder so I can fill it with 30ml and comfortably dip it in the heated water. I'm gonna get the water up to 85 degrees Celsius, dip the cylinder in it for one minute, then pour it into a shot glass over a pyrex dish. Stir it with chop sticks, and hope something settles to the bottom, repeat with 10ml. Right after separating the naphtha I'm gonna throw it in a small dish then throw it in the freezer and hope crystals form. I'm a little nervous that I could lose a lot, but better then being nervous about lye being in my DMT. I can always extract more (I got 2.2 kilos left) but I only get one set of lungs.

I don't want to stray away from tried and true which is why I'm sticking with the shot glass.

Thank you guys for all your help!

 

[Tryptallmine]

Cool, new plan - I'm gonna get the 100ml graduated cylinder so I can fill it with 30ml and comfortably dip it in the heated water. I'm gonna get the water up to 85 degrees Celsius, dip the cylinder in it for one minute, then pour it into a shot glass over a pyrex dish. Stir it with chop sticks, and hope something settles to the bottom, repeat with 10ml. Right after separating the naphtha I'm gonna throw it in a small dish then throw it in the freezer and hope crystals form. I'm a little nervous that I could lose a lot, but better then being nervous about lye being in my DMT. I can always extract more (I got 2.2 kilos left) but I only get one set of lungs.

I don't want to stray away from tried and true which is why I'm sticking with the shot glass.

Thank you guys for all your help!

Sounds kinda like your original plan over engineered for a 3rd time. :lol:
I think 85 degrees Celsius might be a little warm, maybe you should shoot for 77c.

Jokes aside, you just need a kettle of boiling water, a shotglass, a small pot, some solvent and something to stir it with. All you're doing is heat bathing a saturated solution and waiting for contaminants to sink to the bottom of the glass.

It really is one of the simplest processes you can do. You are honestly over thinking this whole process to a humorous level. The best bit is once you actually do it and realize what it is you're doing you'll probably have a relatively good chuckle at these posts.

Enjoy friend..

 

[FLeP]

I forgot to mention the reason I use a shot glass is so I can retrieve my goo with a razor! You could just use IPA to clean it out though since you are probably going to throw out that goo.

Okay, somebody kill this thread.