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Looking for guidance making cappi leaf tea

NormPeterson

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Does anyone have an opinion on brewing a tea from dried cappi leaves? I want to try substituting cappi for my usual rue because I’ve read the experience is a bit different. (Also, I’m low on rue.) For the MAOI to accompany vaporized DMT I am quite comfortable with a tea made from 3g ground rue seeds, so that would be the dosage I’m trying for. Any idea on the quantity of dried cappi leaves that might get me in the same ballpark as the 3g rue experience? I’ve read for extraction that rue is some 20x more potent, so without any other input I may try 60g of cappi leaves.

Any thoughts on mixing the two?
 
Started to weigh out 60g of leaves... seeing what that looks like gives me doubts. In the distant past I remember trying leaf tea out by itself (no DMT). I'm sure it wasn't with that quantity of leaves -- maybe 10g at the most. I seem to remember thinking there was some harmala type effects but it could have been all in my head.
 
Well I made up some cappi leaf tea using 30g dry leaves and a teaspoon of lemon juice, let it steep for an hour, then reduced it down to 100ml. It ended up looking as thick as rue teas I’ve made and looked quite similar under UV light. (BTW, if you have any OCD leanings with respect to cleaning, never look around your kitchen with UV light.)

I probably should have included what I intended it for in the first post; I wanted to use it as the MAOI along with DMT fumarate, and after reading through the Pharmahuasca sticky hoping for clear direction, was left more uncertain than ever. I don’t like feeling queasy, and I really hate ineffective doses.

In the end I balked and opted for some rue tea I had in the refrigerator. I just wasn’t in the mood for a possible failure and went with the sure thing. It was only about the equivalent of 2g rue and wouldn’t be enough for me to feel any effects on its own, but taken 1/2 hour before the fumarate worked just fine. I bottled up the cappi tea and put it in the freezer for someday when I feel more willing to experiment – probably with smoked DMT so I don’t have to wait.

So now I’m wondering with these harmalas if the dose needed for MAOI is less than the dose needed to feel intoxicated on harmalas alone. The 2g rue is barely noticeable on its own – maybe a bit relaxing, but at 3g I would definitely feel lightheaded and might see tracers from lights. That is the dose I would usually have. This time the 2g dose seemed to work just fine.
 
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