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Lotus / Nuciferine Apomorphine, Glaucine

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Recently I've found a variety of nuciferine, blue lotus full spectrum and ratio blend extracts.

I have taken to filling capsules with 0.2g of a mix made from 20g of >10% assured full spec, and 20g of unlabelled full spec, and 0.15g max from 20g 80% nuciferine lotus extract
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Taking 120mg doses of nuciferine alongside psychedelics has been an immense potentiator, smoothing out the experience with a muted euphoric flow/power that feels grounding

Lotus aporphine compounds:
Nuciferine = D4 agonist, D2/D5 parital agonist, DAT inhibitor, antipsychotic, antagonist of psychedelic receptors (trip calmer?), agonism of HT1A and HT6
Apomorphine = D1/D2 agonist, Betablocker, antipsychotic, antiaddictive / parkinsons treatment
Glaucine is another aporphine compound found in yellow horned poppy or lotus

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LOTUS APORPHINE COMPOUNDS
YELLOW HORNED POPPY

Contraindications of blue lotus extracts nuciferine / apomorphine include taking alongside prescribed beta blockers - dangerous drop in blood pressure. I have both and know well not to mix but that both are effective in life

The effects to explore of the lotus are welcomingly positive so far with my use of blue lotus extracts, like that of a betablocking stimulant that has a subtle psychedelia which potentiates other substances staggeringly powerfully. The same can be said from all I have heard of glaucine, being a dissociative psychedelic working on traditional HT2A receptors. On its own it has a sedative, waking dreamlike trip. This is strange, as blue lotus is also used as a oneirogen. Another similarity to harmalas, glaucine is an MAO-A inhibitor, making any other seretogenic more potent and longer lasting. Though it is only moderately partial and without MAO-B.

I can only picture blue lotus having a synergistic effect with glaucine, so far it atleast has been immensely effective. My only worry is this is strong stuff already in the lotus family, nuciferine / apomorphine etc. between 80-120mg delivers a powerful effect, and can interact dangerously with things. Comparing a similar dose of glaucine, the moderate MAO-A inhibition is more likely also to have the same severe interactions with many medications or substances, including tyramine hypertensive crisis from cheese.
Potentiation this way when in full can also lead to week long trips, like with harmalas. MAO-A inhibition is what is required for DMT to become orally active.

I can already say blue lotus is effective as a betablocker / psychedelic stimulant/antipsychotic. The calming effect attributed to both for their antipsychotic potential is a major promise for a smooth ride in potentiating low doses of psychedelics. There is a lot of promise here I think in a seemingly unexplored aporphine form of harmala-type compound, with all the risks considering also its opiate related sedative / depressant nature
 

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Have you ever made your own extracts? And if so, may I ask your technique?
Of specifically lotus? Nothing relating to any level of compound isolation. I'm lucky that where I live, an oz of various versions of standardized lotus extract can be bought legally from a couple businesses, even including pure nuciferene which I have a sample of. If I could grow or find yellow horned poppy wild around here, that is possible

Way back in the day I had a few ziplock pillows full of blue lotus flower heads. I used to boil 4-8g of flower material straight in a cup of water on a gas cooker, strain and drink the tea. If drank under effects of no other substance, with pauses for tolerance, I found this to be a very subtle psychedelic. Shadows became rolled in inky blue, black and brown. Especially in a darkened room and in this format, this preparation consistently lead to a floral, earthy psychedlia and euphoria that felt like taking a sip from or dipping only the toes into a full psychedelic experience. Proper visuals would completely evade focus though - distortions/enhancements of colour, and anything conforming to patterns would be kept only to peripheral vision / where one was not focused, but the shadows did glow with an earthy, flowery colour of patterns

Non-lotus extracts... I have done the rounds producing crude and advanced extracts of ergot, and produced LSA/LSH and other adducts from that chemistry many years ago.

I have recently been in the business of making botanically fortified alcohol also with damiana, klip dagga, lotus etc

I also just made my first post, a TEK I'm drafting for freebasing DPT. If you had any feedback on that before I go ahead with it, I'd be grateful :)
 
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I also just made my first post, a TEK I'm drafting for freebasing DPT. If you had any feedback on that before I go ahead with it, I'd be grateful :)
Sorry man, I've never tried freebasing DPT. I got my hands on it once probably 20+ years ago, and I did an intramuscular injection of I forget how many mgs, but it was quite the wild ride... complete sensory close-out for well over an hour during which time I met the souls of unborn children and re-visited the supermarket my parents used to take me to when I was a toddler. 😵‍💫 When I was coming down, I felt/heard low frequency vibrations coming out of the Earth that I had never encountered before.... Yeah – you're in for quite the trip!
 
Nice thread, although I'm not so keen on screenshots like that simply because it's not possible to copy text from them easily.

I was a bit of a fan of pink lotus (Nelumbo nucifera) stamens quite some years ago when they were easily obtainable. I'm pretty sure they contain nuciferine as well. And do note the spelling there - I've edited the title of this thread correspondingly to stop my eye from twitching so much ;)
 
during which time I met the souls of unborn children and re-visited the supermarket my parents used to take me to when I was a toddler. 😵‍💫
Could you say more about this experience, perhaps in a different thread? It sounds quite similar to a pharmahuasca experience I had that I found quite shocking.
 
Could you say more about this experience, perhaps in a different thread? It sounds quite similar to a pharmahuasca experience I had that I found quite shocking.
Also mentioned here:
 
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